Site Supporter Steejay Posted January 15, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted January 15, 2020 33 minutes ago, Biffo666 said: I used to live and work in Rochdale and have had personal dealings with KH and RFC. Keef is a bully and very pig headed if challenged or crossed. He likes to humiliate those who have different views to his own pov. At Rochdale he took all the credit for wins but lambasted players and particularly supporters when things went wrong. He dropped good players simply because they disagreed with him and they never made matchday squad again. His tactics and substitutes baffled everyone, and his repeated playing of strikers at left back confounded everyone. He had his supporters who backed him to the end but shite results did for him. In my opinion he is a bigoted dinosaur, not nearly as clever as he thinks, talks absolute balls and blames everyone but himself. Under Keef the futures bleak chaps ! Is that you, Didsy??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morizio Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 Just now, Biffo666 said: Rochdale fans, generally a bitter bunch, respected KH but virtually all saw him as unhinged and a nutjob in the end - he was just irrational and agressive to anyone who did not hero worship him. As stated, I personally found him to be a cnut of the highest order, a very nasty person who liked to ridicule and humiliate others. Think Col Kurtz in Apocalypse Now and you get my drift. What was the reason you crossed swords? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radcliffe white Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 1 minute ago, Biffo666 said: Rochdale fans, generally a bitter bunch, respected KH but virtually all saw him as unhinged and a nutjob in the end - he was just irrational and agressive to anyone who did not hero worship him. As stated, I personally found him to be a cnut of the highest order, a very nasty person who liked to ridicule and humiliate others. Think Col Kurtz in Apocalypse Now and you get my drift. Did he wear chinos at Rochdale? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biffo666 Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 21 minutes ago, Morizio said: What was the reason you crossed swords? Was a few years ago, financial advice to club staff and young players, sports injuries and private pensions. KH was obnoxious and belittling. Afterwards one employee came to me and apologised and said KH was a total prick. Never forgot how unnecessarily unpleasant he was just for his own cheap thrill. Prepared to give him a chance like others but personally I think he is badly flawed in personality terms. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bolton va va Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 6 hours ago, gregbwfc said: Hats off to those who went. Long way to go to see the team turn it in for the last 10. Not on that. First time since the takeover I'm thinking wtf is going on. Not replacing the defenders we let go is madness. When we went more attacking in the 2nd half we scored a good goal & made a few bits of chances but it left us so open that Lincoln looked like scoring every time they had the ball. Even though we only caved in at the end, you could see it coming well before the last 10. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bolton va va Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 6 hours ago, Ani said: Pity we let out leftback go. I'm guessing that Hill is pinning his hopes on Bunny to fill the left back position & is winging it until he's fit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members burnden Posted January 15, 2020 Members Share Posted January 15, 2020 1 hour ago, Biffo666 said: I used to live and work in Rochdale and have had personal dealings with KH and RFC. Keef is a bully and very pig headed if challenged or crossed. He likes to humiliate those who have different views to his own pov. At Rochdale he took all the credit for wins but lambasted players and particularly supporters when things went wrong. He dropped good players simply because they disagreed with him and they never made matchday squad again. His tactics and substitutes baffled everyone, and his repeated playing of strikers at left back confounded everyone. He had his supporters who backed him to the end but shite results did for him. In my opinion he is a bigoted dinosaur, not nearly as clever as he thinks, talks absolute balls and blames everyone but himself. Under Keef the futures bleak chaps ! If that is the way he treats players there is never going to be a happy dressing room and players willing to give everything for him ....Worrying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySanchez Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 37 minutes ago, Mr Grey said: Nah Lonsdale trackies With a pink shirt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted January 15, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted January 15, 2020 30 minutes ago, burnden said: If that is the way he treats players there is never going to be a happy dressing room and players willing to give everything for him ....Worrying. Absolutely. An insular approach. Certainly isn't like Allardyce in that regard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOWTUN BAKED Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 43 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: Absolutely. An insular approach. Certainly isn't like Allardyce in that regard. Don't be comparing him to Allardyce! Another rant will be incoming Saturday 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter MickyD Posted January 15, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted January 15, 2020 2 hours ago, Biffo666 said: Rochdale fans, generally a bitter bunch, respected KH but virtually all saw him as unhinged and a nutjob in the end - he was just irrational and agressive to anyone who did not hero worship him. As stated, I personally found him to be a cnut of the highest order, a very nasty person who liked to ridicule and humiliate others. Think Col Kurtz in Apocalypse Now and you get my drift. Spoke to a few Rochdale supporters on Saturday in the Cemetary Pub after the game and quite honestly, they wouldn't hear a bad word about him. To many Rochdale fans, KH is the Messiah... still. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted January 15, 2020 Moderators Share Posted January 15, 2020 I hear tales of our players not liking hill In fact, a few hate him They are generally not in the team Its how it works At least that's where I am at the moment Most of the loanees appeared keen to stay and I can't go off much more than that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted January 15, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted January 15, 2020 Can understand players being frustrated if they're not playing, but 'hating' the manager seems strong. Surely more to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounts Kipper Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Casino said: I hear tales of our players not liking hill In fact, a few hate him They are generally not in the team Its how it works At least that's where I am at the moment Most of the loanees appeared keen to stay and I can't go off much more than that It’s a concern for me, good managers man manage, someone like Rioch wouldn’t have players hating them in similar circumstances because he would respect the player and in turn would get that respect back. I want Hill to be the man to do the job for us but my stomachs churning thinking about it, I already know he is not what we need. Edited January 15, 2020 by Mounts Kipper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnyrotten Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 22 hours ago, Marc505 said: Very good. As we were saying though I reckon turnouts midweek at Blackpool, Shrewsbury and Burton could be interesting now. Nobody's going to judge us on away followings now. Blackpool brought about 300 to our place a few years ago in the championship, Derby brought about 500 when they were bottom of Prem (when Stelios scored) and Wolves brought less than 1k on a Saturday the season they went down to Div 1. I'm fairly sure we've never played a team as far adrift as we are, nobody can criticise if we decide not to go to any more aways. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farnywhite Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 He did acknowledge in is interview that he knows some of the players aren’t good enough and it’s it’s job to organise them better . All the goals Last night we’re due to players not marking correctly and sloppy play just giving the ball away . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySanchez Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 1 minute ago, Johnnyrotten said: Nobody's going to judge us on away followings now. Blackpool brought about 300 to our place a few years ago in the championship, Derby brought about 500 when they were bottom of Prem (when Stelios scored) and Wolves brought less than 1k on a Saturday the season they went down to Div 1. I'm fairly sure we've never played a team as far adrift as we are, nobody can criticise if we decide not to go to any more aways. The Derby match was monday and on sky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Alf Hartigan Posted January 15, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted January 15, 2020 1 hour ago, Casino said: I hear tales of our players not liking hill In fact, a few hate him They are generally not in the team Its how it works At least that's where I am at the moment Most of the loanees appeared keen to stay and I can't go off much more than that I'll bet there's players at Watford that already hate Pearson, and they'll be the ones not in the team. I don't like (hate is too strong a word for someone I've never met) Pearson from what I've seen of him but he's clearly a good football manager looking at his track record. My instinct with Hill is that I don't like him, and never liked him from schooldays (same age) through to his time at Rochdale. However, I'm thinking the reaction to him on here recently is OTT. We were always going down this season especially after the first six games, but Hill put together a side at the last minute that gave us a brief glimpse of hope, that our horrendous injury jinx quickly put paid to. I'm still getting behind Hill and hoping he may have some of that Pearson magic. This season was a free hit IMO, and this is the case more than ever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt. Aldo Raine Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 1 hour ago, Casino said: I hear tales of our players not liking hill In fact, a few hate him They are generally not in the team Its how it works At least that's where I am at the moment Most of the loanees appeared keen to stay and I can't go off much more than that There aren't many in that bracket. I can only think of two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enzo gambaro Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 1 hour ago, Mounts Kipper said: Rioch wouldn’t have players hating them in similar circumstances because he would respect the player and in turn would get that respect back. Bet that’s bollocks, he just managed in an era when every little thing wasn’t blown up into a drama on social media and dissected at length by folk with fuck all else to do with their time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnyrotten Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 7 hours ago, Biffo666 said: Was a few years ago, financial advice to club staff and young players, sports injuries and private pensions. KH was obnoxious and belittling. Afterwards one employee came to me and apologised and said KH was a total prick. Never forgot how unnecessarily unpleasant he was just for his own cheap thrill. Prepared to give him a chance like others but personally I think he is badly flawed in personality terms. That doesnt make good reading. I admit my initial excitement that he ticked all the boxes for our current situation is a thing of the past. Bridcutt repeatedly at centre back was no.1 reason, the bizarre treatment of Politic was no.2, his rants and personality disorder no.3, the nonsensical release of Chicksen and subsequent comments no.4 and last night's absolute farce at left back, with Boon nowhere to be seen, is no.5. I'm happy for him to spend the rest of the season either proving me wrong or digging his own grave. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySanchez Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 2 minutes ago, Alf Hartigan said: I'll bet there's players at Watford that already hate Pearson, and they'll be the ones not in the team. I don't like (hate is too strong a word for someone I've never met) Pearson from what I've seen of him but he's clearly a good football manager looking at his track record. My instinct with Hill is that I don't like him, and never liked him from schooldays (same age) through to his time at Rochdale. However, I'm thinking the reaction to him on here recently is OTT. We were always going down this season especially after the first six games, but Hill put together a side at the last minute that gave us a brief glimpse of hope, that our horrendous injury jinx quickly put paid to. I'm still getting behind Hill and hoping he may have some of that Pearson magic. This season was a free hit IMO, and this is the case more than ever. Watford have a good squad of players who were under performing but have turned it around. Can't see many hating him Players buy into winning formulas. But we don't have that so it's not really comparable I doubt long term he is the answer but if he keeps them up then job done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted January 15, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted January 15, 2020 1 minute ago, enzo gambaro said: Bet that’s bollocks, he just managed in an era when every little thing wasn’t blown up into a drama on social media and dissected at length by folk with fuck all else to do with their time. Back then, we went to the pub and chatted shit there instead. Maybe lobbed a few arrows whilst debating. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Alf Hartigan Posted January 15, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted January 15, 2020 2 minutes ago, DirtySanchez said: Watford have a good squad of players who were under performing but have turned it around. Can't see many hating him Players buy into winning formulas. But we don't have that so it's not really comparable I doubt long term he is the answer but if he keeps them up then job done. I'm not making the comparison by the quality of squad. I'm making it about how their respective personalities are being judged. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted January 15, 2020 Moderators Share Posted January 15, 2020 11 minutes ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said: There aren't many in that bracket. I can only think of two. Maybe I should've said a couple And one is back in the team I hope he's giving out some tough love Those who come through will be stronger I was chuffed when we got him First alarm was when he described the kids as gym bunnies They're hardly that ffs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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