Matt Lofthouse Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 35 minutes ago, Sweep said: I don't remember Mendy being anything other than terrible. Very fast, but a terrible defender. As I said old brain 😄 Either way the current two are decent and that’s all that matters . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Okocha10 Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 He’s been a brilliant signing, when we signed him I thought ffs why we signing a Bradford cast off. Bradford fans giving him all kinds of shit for his performances for them. But it reminds me of Morais, he’s always give 100% every game that’s all you can ask for, hopefully he keeps it up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigtoe Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 Agree, Chickens been a great addition, 7/10 min every game ive seen Also O Grady has been great, holds it well moves it on well Both good additions on a freebie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underpants Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 (edited) I was only saying to one of our lot yesterday that Chicksen had something about him. Folk don't measure players on what they do well, but more on what they don't do so well. He's steady and doesn't do much wrong. Reminds me of Mike Whitlow. Edited November 17, 2019 by Underpants Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desert_monkey Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 I thought he (Chicksen) was MOM on Saturday. Looked fresh at the end of the game and was quality in possession and distribution. Got a cracking work ethic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marple whites Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 Getting better week by week, puts a reasonable ball in, solid performer. i like him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bolton va va Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 Too soon to say. All this about him controlling the ball nicely, him passing nicely, him attacking nicely, blah, blah......he's a full back & first & foremost he needs to be a good defender. To be clear , i like him & think he's done well so far, but it's when his defensive abilities - his tackling, his positional play, his covering & recovery etc - have been properly tested, that i'll be making a judgement. Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underpants Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 16 minutes ago, bolton va va said: Too soon to say. All this about him controlling the ball nicely, him passing nicely, him attacking nicely, blah, blah......he's a full back & first & foremost he needs to be a good defender. To be clear , i like him & think he's done well so far, but it's when his defensive abilities - his tackling, his positional play, his covering & recovery etc - have been properly tested, that i'll be making a judgement. Â I think most have already made their assessment in the things you have mentioned. I know I have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter HomerJay Posted November 18, 2019 Site Supporter Share Posted November 18, 2019 22 hours ago, Sweep said: I don't remember Mendy being anything other than terrible. Very fast, but a terrible defender. at premier league level. in this league, he would be world class. its all relative. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bwfcfan5 Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 I like Chicksen - does everything solidly without being spectacular at anything particularly. I'd definitely want to keep him till summer and probably beyond. Emmanuel on the other hand - if he sorts out his mental side he has everything to be a very very good player at the level above this. He just needs to stop running into people with the ball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted November 18, 2019 Site Supporter Share Posted November 18, 2019 12 hours ago, bolton va va said: Too soon to say. All this about him controlling the ball nicely, him passing nicely, him attacking nicely, blah, blah......he's a full back & first & foremost he needs to be a good defender. To be clear , i like him & think he's done well so far, but it's when his defensive abilities - his tackling, his positional play, his covering & recovery etc - have been properly tested, that i'll be making a judgement. Â Is the defensive improvement since Hill got him and others in indicative that he might be decent defensively? Ok the whole team has improved on that front, but as a unit the backline is, for me, the best and most consistent section. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bolton va va Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 42 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: Is the defensive improvement since Hill got him and others in indicative that he might be decent defensively? Ok the whole team has improved on that front, but as a unit the backline is, for me, the best and most consistent section. Aye, I feared a Coyle/Lennon type disaster when Hill was described as an "attacking" manager but the improvement & obvious work in the defence has shown him to be an intelligent manager. Having to blend in so many new players & being forced to chop & change the centre halves, makes it even more impressive. Individually, Matthews has flown under the radar but has been rock solid & is clearly trusted by the defenders ( that should be the kiss of death for Saturday !! ) , Emmanuel looks well capable of playing at a higher level, & despite his rushes of blood, Zouma has the potential to be very good long term & back to Chicksen....as much as i like him, i'll reserve judgement until we've seen him when we're under the cosh or when he faces a really good opponent !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnyrotten Posted November 18, 2019 Author Share Posted November 18, 2019 Re Chicksen's defensive capabilities or otherwise, I think after the 10 games or whatever he's played, we can be reasonably sure he's got what it takes for this division. That's not to say someone at Peterbrough or Sunderland wont give him a roasting occasionally, but show me a full back that doesnt happen to (OK, Ream didnt get beat much for pace!). These days passing, crossing, controlling etc is just as important in a full back, otherwise you are just coughing up possession every time you get the ball instead of creating a half chance or winning a corner. We needed to attract a player to play for peanuts on a short term deal whilst 15 points adrift in Div 1 but who had to be an improvement on what we had in recent Championship and promotion seasons. He beats them hands down in every aspect for me, apart from arm waving (Taylor) and "long" throws (Moxey). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Faustus Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 On 16/11/2019 at 22:19, MickyD said: Dunne and Ritson? Phillips and MacEnespie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Lofthouse Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 On 16/11/2019 at 21:47, Matt said: Happy with both our full backs. Can’t remember the last time I could say that. Dick head. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Biggish Dave Posted November 24, 2019 Site Supporter Share Posted November 24, 2019 Both were dreadful yesterday. Not the only ones. Worst performance I’ve seen in a long time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnyrotten Posted November 24, 2019 Author Share Posted November 24, 2019 I'm not defending terrible performances, and I wasnt there so probably dont appreciate just how bad it must have been, but last time we lost 7-1 our left back was Tim Ream, as good as any of our full backs in the last 10 years. Another top left back was Alonso, and he had plenty of nightmares for us defensively. As I said in the original post, every full back gets roasted occasionally and I've seen enough of both Chicksen and Emmanuel to think it wont be a regular thing in this league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErnestTurnip Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 Opposition manager looks at team sheet, picks side were Verlinden is likely to play, attacks it and full back on that side gets ripped a new arsehole. And repeat. Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted November 25, 2019 Site Supporter Share Posted November 25, 2019 18 hours ago, ErnestTurnip said: Opposition manager looks at team sheet, picks side were Verlinden is likely to play, attacks it and full back on that side gets ripped a new arsehole. And repeat. Â Verlinden also made a big difference against mk when he came on, by attacking their full back. Not sure it's quite so simple, sometimes attack is the best form of defense. That said, I'm concerned that, once down to 10 players, we apparently failed to make the necessary adjustments in defense, simultaneously weakening the midfield. Seems things could have been done differently, but if the whole team is having a bad day then perhaps KH was always onto a loser. Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter HomerJay Posted November 25, 2019 Site Supporter Share Posted November 25, 2019 o'grady was no better than Verlinden at tracking. in fact i'd argue he was worse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burndens Bogs Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 The more i see of Verlinden, the more i think he'd be better used as an impact sub. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnyrotten Posted November 25, 2019 Author Share Posted November 25, 2019 Whether he starts or finishes he seems to play in bursts. He looked like a great impact sub v MK Dons and turned the game but his explosive starts against Rotherham and Accrington brought us 2 cracking goals. He seems to fade out of the game though, definitely not a 90 minute player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traf Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 15 hours ago, Burndens Bogs said: The more i see of Verlinden, the more i think he'd be better used as an impact sub. young and hungry? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Youri McAnespie Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 And stick him on a 'pay as you play' contract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Steejay Posted November 28, 2019 Site Supporter Share Posted November 28, 2019 26 minutes ago, Youri McAnespie said: And stick him on a 'pay as you play' contract. Aye, zero hours contract. Minimum wage. As and when needed. Mike Ashley stylee. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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