Sweep Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 1 minute ago, Casino said: Supply issues....still bothers me Said it a while, its the only thing that should stop us If we fail for any other reason, it would be a scandal Anyway, all over 50s by end of march? Presumably that will be first jab only, but still, end of march plus 3 weeks, takes us til end april No reason why something very close to a life cant be back on by then I do foresee a modification to some of the priorities coming soon, though. I cant see them not prioritising teachers sometime soon You're right, supply will possibly be what makes all this fall over, or stall for a little while. Everytime they interview that bloke from AZ, he seems to be a little more vague with regards to delivery. Still, it is looking like we might be back to some sort of normality for the summer, which is a nice thought. I realised the other day that 2020 is probably the first year, in at least 30 years, that I've fully spent in the UK, every single day, not even a day trip to France.........I don't want to have to do that again! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted January 15, 2021 Site Supporter Share Posted January 15, 2021 Just now, Casino said: Sorry, what i meant was im sure its 3 weeks after the jab for it to give protection Yeah, I mis read it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Spider Posted January 15, 2021 Site Supporter Share Posted January 15, 2021 I think anywhere north of 10million done by 15th Feb would be ok. 13million would be splendid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweep Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 Just now, Spider said: I think anywhere north of 10million done by 15th Feb would be ok. 13million would be splendid. If they've only done 10M by 15th February and not the 13M they keep promising, then whilst still a great effort, questions will need to be asked, and they should be fairly easy to answer. As of this morning they're still saying the 13M is still on, so I don't see why we would fall massively short, unless they utterly balls it up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent_white Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 3 minutes ago, Sweep said: If they've only done 10M by 15th February and not the 13M they keep promising, then whilst still a great effort, questions will need to be asked, and they should be fairly easy to answer. As of this morning they're still saying the 13M is still on, so I don't see why we would fall massively short, unless they utterly balls it up This Government seem to do this. Aim for a extremely high target and take the flack if and when it doesn't get there. There's a school of thought that that's actually more effective than aiming for a more modest target and then missing out on that one. Gotta think big! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Spider Posted January 15, 2021 Site Supporter Share Posted January 15, 2021 4 minutes ago, Sweep said: If they've only done 10M by 15th February and not the 13M they keep promising, then whilst still a great effort, questions will need to be asked, and they should be fairly easy to answer. As of this morning they're still saying the 13M is still on, so I don't see why we would fall massively short, unless they utterly balls it up Supply of the actual vaccine seems to be touch and go based on what I’ve read. Cant argue with the amount of resource available to get jabs in arms. Just desperately hoping they nail this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 6 minutes ago, Sweep said: If they've only done 10M by 15th February and not the 13M they keep promising, then whilst still a great effort, questions will need to be asked, and they should be fairly easy to answer. As of this morning they're still saying the 13M is still on, so I don't see why we would fall massively short, unless they utterly balls it up Open goal from here, a Deano moment. please nobody upload the video Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted January 15, 2021 Site Supporter Share Posted January 15, 2021 2 minutes ago, kent_white said: This Government seem to do this. Aim for a extremely high target and take the flack if and when it doesn't get there. There's a school of thought that that's actually more effective than aiming for a more modest target and then missing out on that one. Gotta think big! Something in that. Aim for 13 and achieve 12, or aim for 10 and achieve 11? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted January 15, 2021 Moderators Share Posted January 15, 2021 Obviously, if youre looking to make an impact, you do the easy ones first, perfectly hatural, no criticism from me But what we are finding now is theres a good number who 'cant get there' and theres still uncertainty of supply So, as you cant book a clinic until you have vax in hand, its a logistical nightmare as we say im thinking the superhubs are probably getting more regular volumes which makes sense for sheer numbers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Escobarp Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 Just now, Tonge moor green jacket said: Something in that. Aim for 13 and achieve 12, or aim for 10 and achieve 11? Aim for 13 all day long. Why should 11 be seen as more of a success than 12 using your example. if they did 20 certain folk would still complain anyway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent_white Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 Just now, Tonge moor green jacket said: Something in that. Aim for 13 and achieve 12, or aim for 10 and achieve 11? Exactly - some of the senior managers in the NHS use exactly the same idea. On record as well. Not sure it's the right approach day today, but under circumstances like this, maybe? Same thing happened with testing - and now I think we're around about number 1 in the world per 1000? Expect to take some flak early on but get more done in the long run. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted January 15, 2021 Site Supporter Share Posted January 15, 2021 1 minute ago, kent_white said: Exactly - some of the senior managers in the NHS use exactly the same idea. On record as well. Not sure it's the right approach day today, but under circumstances like this, maybe? Same thing happened with testing - and now I think we're around about number 1 in the world per 1000? Expect to take some flak early on but get more done in the long run. I'd agree day to day could be risky. But nowt wrong with ambition. I reckon that's what's keeping me relatively enthused about Evatt. Something just says he'll come good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent_white Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 1 minute ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: I'd agree day to day could be risky. But nowt wrong with ambition. I reckon that's what's keeping me relatively enthused about Evatt. Something just says he'll come good. Over reach I think they call it. There's a time and a place for it - but that time and place is probably now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiggy Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 Plenty of positive news this morning. It sounds like we’re doing 300,000 a day with the resources already in place to do significantly more. If we can get hold of more vaccine then you sense we could be doing 400,000 or even 500,000 a day. Plenty of new vaccination centres joining all the time and we haven’t moved to 24/7. It’s going to be all about supply. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Zico Posted January 15, 2021 Moderators Share Posted January 15, 2021 looks like the Brazilian one is already here https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-55676637 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Escobarp Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 16 minutes ago, ZicoKelly said: looks like the Brazilian one is already here https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-55676637 Was going to say other day it will already be here. By the time these are discovered chances are they will have spread to a lot places including here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farrelli Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 1 hour ago, kent_white said: This Government seem to do this. Aim for a extremely high target and take the flack if and when it doesn't get there. There's a school of thought that that's actually more effective than aiming for a more modest target and then missing out on that one. Gotta think big! No problem with that, set a big target and be honest about factors if you don't get there. They would get most people on board if they acted that way. Unfortunately they have form for hiding or distorting data to make it look like they made their target. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted January 15, 2021 Site Supporter Share Posted January 15, 2021 13 minutes ago, Escobarp said: Quite. If they're distorting data, they're making a bad job of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmjhb Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 Must admit I was somewhat surprised Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted January 15, 2021 Site Supporter Share Posted January 15, 2021 Biggest surprise for me is the frogs. Louis Pasteur was one of their own ffs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Spider Posted January 15, 2021 Site Supporter Share Posted January 15, 2021 1 minute ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: Biggest surprise for me is the frogs. Louis Pasteur was one of their own ffs. If it was a french vaccine they’d be near 100% Dont want no Rosbíf vaccine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 2 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: Biggest surprise for me is the frogs. Louis Pasteur was one of their own ffs. They think they are summat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted January 15, 2021 Site Supporter Share Posted January 15, 2021 1 minute ago, Spider said: If it was a french vaccine they’d be near 100% Dont want no Rosbíf vaccine And certainly no Kraut one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Spider Posted January 15, 2021 Site Supporter Share Posted January 15, 2021 (edited) 5 minutes ago, boltondiver said: They think they are summat Exactly Tell them the vaccine is grown on the perfect soils of Paulliac, or been created in the kitchens and bakeries of Paris and they'd be all over it. They are simply jealous. Edited January 15, 2021 by Spider Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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