Coronavirus

[leigh white]

Wish Andy Burnham was still the Leigh MP, this clown we've got now has never uttered a word yet since he got elected.

[Mounts Kipper]

5 minutes ago, gonzo said:

Hes fighting tooth and nail for everything you personally stand for on this issue 🤷‍♂️

He wants a full lockdown and the government to fund it. The government want to keep as much of the economy going and fund those who are forced to not work, the government option is nearer my preference. One thing I agree with him is those on low pay who can’t work should get 100% wages. 

Edited October 15, 2020 by Mounts Kipper

[Winchester White]

2 minutes ago, Spider said:

Andy Burnham has stood up to be counted this week, and not been found wanting.

Wasn't a fan, But impressed with him.

To be fair, I have never rated him.

But, he is asking for clarity and proper leadership so fair fucks he is stepping up and asking questions.

[MickyD]

8 minutes ago, leigh white said:

Wish Andy Burnham was still the Leigh MP, this clown we've got now has never uttered a word yet since he got elected.

Does your MP even speak the language?

[Escobarp]

12 minutes ago, gonzo said:

Hes fighting tooth and nail for everything you personally stand for on this issue 🤷‍♂️

He’s not though in reality mate. He wants us locked down properly and everyone to get full pay whilst doing so. Socialism at its most obvious. 
 

if government said lock down 6 months don’t leave the house but everyone gets paid he would be saying pass him the pen. 
 

it’s the magic money tree again that these people seem to think we have. We’re fucked and it’s going to get a whole heap worse. 
 

pass me the rope 🤒

[peelyfeet]

6 minutes ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said:

 

Cant understand why schooling from home wasn't offered to those who wanted to do it. I've got 2 sons, one could have easily continued schooling from home for the foreseeable, wouldn't have made much of a difference to him. I've got a mate whose son is just starting his 3rd different isolation period, because of school twice, and his dads positive once.  He'll have done about 2 and a half weeks of school by the time half term is done, since March.

[mickbrown]

7 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said:

He wants a full lockdown and the government to fund it. The government want to keep as much of the economy going and fund those who are forced to not work, the government option is nearer my preference. One thing I agree with him is those on low pay who can’t work should get 100% wages. 

He wants a short 2 week circuit breaker. 

That or tier 3 for months on end? 

What would you choose?

 

[gonzo]

8 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said:

He wants a full lockdown and the government to fund it. The government want to keep as much of the economy going and fund those who are forced to not work, the government option is nearer my preference. One thing I agree with him is those on low pay who can’t work should get 100% wages. 

Dont think he wants full lockdown. Hes saying its better option for people rather than being strangled in a tier system and the area shouldnt be hung to dry.

[leigh white]

Just now, MickyD said:

Does your MP even speak the language?

I think he lives over the border in Lowton, so probably not.😃

[Alf Hartigan]

Andy Burnham is asking for full national lockdown. There's no denying that.

Only time will tell what's right.

Personally, I'd support a national lockdown as of March for a period of 2 weeks.

 

 

 

[Mounts Kipper]

2 minutes ago, mickbrown said:

He wants a short 2 week circuit breaker. 

That or tier 3 for months on end? 

What would you choose?

 

He thinks a circuit break of 2 weeks gonna sort it out. 😂

After 2 weeks he will ask for another month and more government money. He’s playing politics plain and simple. 

[gonzo]

4 minutes ago, mickbrown said:

He wants a short 2 week circuit breaker. 

That or tier 3 for months on end? 

What would you choose?

 

I know what all those empty hotels I mentioned earlier would want.

[Alf Hartigan]

1 minute ago, Mounts Kipper said:

He thinks a circuit break of 2 weeks gonna sort it out. 😂

After 2 weeks he will ask for another month and more government money. He’s playing politics plain and simple. 

 

[mickbrown]

1 minute ago, Mounts Kipper said:

He thinks a circuit break of 2 weeks gonna sort it out. 😂

After 2 weeks he will ask for another month and more government money. He’s playing politics plain and simple. 

SAGE reckon it would help. Take it you disagree with the science? 

You do tend to do that when it suits 

[Lt. Aldo Raine]

5 minutes ago, peelyfeet said:

Cant understand why schooling from home wasn't offered to those who wanted to do it. I've got 2 sons, one could have easily continued schooling from home for the foreseeable, wouldn't have made much of a difference to him. I've got a mate whose son is just starting his 3rd different isolation period, because of school twice, and his dads positive once.  He'll have done about 2 and a half weeks of school by the time half term is done, since March.

It's a very difficult one, because I think it's vital we try as much as we can to keep schools open. 

I don't know what the answer is, though.

[Alf Hartigan]

Don't think he would, he's not that stupid, replying to Mounts that is.

[Mounts Kipper]

11 minutes ago, gonzo said:

Dont think he wants full lockdown. Hes saying its better option for people rather than being strangled in a tier system and the area shouldnt be hung to dry.

Even tier 3 allows all but pubs to open which means less need for funding, Labours mantra is full lockdown which means areas with low infection rates are shut down completely meaning the government have to fund more furlough. It’s plain and simple party politics from Labour for political gain and nothing to do with what’s best for the U.K. 

Edited October 15, 2020 by Mounts Kipper

[Farrelli]

1 minute ago, mickbrown said:

SAGE reckon it would help. Take it you disagree with the science? 

You do tend to do that when it suits 

No he is following the economists now, the scientists are wrong.

[leigh white]

Just now, Mounts Kipper said:

He thinks a circuit break of 2 weeks gonna sort it out. 😂

After 2 weeks he will ask for another month and more government money. He’s playing politics plain and simple. 

Tories are trying to make mugs out of us in the NW and all the hard work built up after the Thatcher years and 10 years of austerity, just to destroy it all again.

[Mounts Kipper]

5 minutes ago, mickbrown said:

SAGE reckon it would help. Take it you disagree with the science? 

You do tend to do that when it suits 

Help how? All it does is  push it all back 2 weeks, fantastic.

Edited October 15, 2020 by Mounts Kipper

[Winchester White]

2 minutes ago, peelyfeet said:

Cant understand why schooling from home wasn't offered to those who wanted to do it. I've got 2 sons, one could have easily continued schooling from home for the foreseeable, wouldn't have made much of a difference to him. I've got a mate whose son is just starting his 3rd different isolation period, because of school twice, and his dads positive once.  He'll have done about 2 and a half weeks of school by the time half term is done, since March.

It is very difficult for some though.

My youngest is bright but shy. But on the flip side, without the structure of a school day he has no interest in learning despite being amongst the top of his class.

My eldest is also bright but has suffered mental health issues prior to Covid. We were just getting back to some sort of normal routine when the lockdown hit. He basically did very little learning from that point onwards.

Kids really have missed out but hopefully they will bounce back.

[peelyfeet]

Just now, Alf Hartigan said:

Andy Burnham is asking for full national lockdown. There's no denying that.

Only time will tell what's right.

Personally, I'd support a national lockdown as of March for a period of 2 weeks.

 

 

 

You need 3 or 4 to stop it spreading in the household unfortunately. If we all stay in for 2 weeks, spread in the home goes up. Son passes it to mum and  dad after a week, they're both asymptomatic, dad goes back to work just as he's most infectious. Most folk are most infectious about 5-9 days after infection. Coming out of a lockdown with the majority non infectious is what you want, an extra week buys several in the future. 

[Mounts Kipper]

1 minute ago, leigh white said:

Tories are trying to make mugs out of us in the NW and all the hard work built up after the Thatcher years and 10 years of austerity, just to destroy it all again.

You listening to tit Burnham, Leicester been locked down London next, nothing to do with NW, it’s all about the red wall. 

[mickbrown]

4 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said:

Help how? All it does is  push it all back 2 weeks, fantastic.

Lowers the rate. The path were on now isn't. 

[Mounts Kipper]

2 minutes ago, peelyfeet said:

You need 3 or 4 to stop it spreading in the household unfortunately. If we all stay in for 2 weeks, spread in the home goes up. Son passes it to mum and  dad after a week, they're both asymptomatic, dad goes back to work just as he's most infectious. Most folk are most infectious about 5-9 days after infection. Coming out of a lockdown with the majority non infectious is what you want, an extra week buys several in the future. 

Are you saying localised full lockdown or a national lockdown? In my opinion only if the nhs cannot cope and only on a regional basis.