Coronavirus

[peelyfeet]

1 minute ago, Mounts Kipper said:

I’d be happy with tier 2 regulations as a maximum, and continued best practice, except when a locality was in danger of being overloaded, and in that case I’d lock it down properly until hospitals in that locality were not in danger of being overloaded. 

Some hospitals in the NW are almost full now.

The folk admitted today caught the virus 2 weeks ago.

In some areas the cases have trebled in 2 weeks. 

Therefore in some areas hospitalisations may treble in 2 weeks. 

Thats why they're shitting it. 

If the rate continues, you end up being over run very quickly.

If you have to lockdown for 2 weeks, you do it when numbers are low. If you do it when you're about to burst, more die and you've still had to do the same 2 weeks,  just on a different date. 

[Mounts Kipper]

8 minutes ago, Escobarp said:

Tier 2 has been proven not to work sufficiently though surely? It suppresses it yes but insufficiently. 
 

sorry but only way we get rid of this is vaccine or lockdown because we’ve too many knobheads across the board and too many 5g tinfoil hat nut jobs 

 

but lockdown cripples us economically and thus can’t happen 

in summary we’re fucked 

We can’t afford another national lockdown, we are 2/3 months after a long lockdown and it’s come back, deaths from other illnesses, financial disaster for the country and 100s of thousands more unemployed, this will be worse than the damage Covid can cause. 

Edited October 15, 2020 by Mounts Kipper

[Mounts Kipper]

9 minutes ago, peelyfeet said:

Some hospitals in the NW are almost full now.

The folk admitted today caught the virus 2 weeks ago.

In some areas the cases have trebled in 2 weeks. 

Therefore in some areas hospitalisations may treble in 2 weeks. 

Thats why they're shitting it. 

If the rate continues, you end up being over run very quickly.

If you have to lockdown for 2 weeks, you do it when numbers are low. If you do it when you're about to burst, more die and you've still had to do the same 2 weeks,  just on a different date. 

Open the nightingales, when they start filling, lock down hard if we are already in that situation in Liverpool then lock it down proper, the judgement should be made based on occupation levels in hospital and modelling projections gleaned from the first wave. 

Edited October 15, 2020 by Mounts Kipper

[Escobarp]

3 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said:

We can’t afford another lockdown, we are 2/3 months after a long lockdown and it’s come back, deaths from other illnesses, financial disaster for the country and 100s of thousands more unemployed, this will be worse than the damage Covid can cause. 

You’re preaching to the converted. Look back I called out the economic damage and human collateral way back when when people were not even thinking that way. We can’t afford lockdown agreed. But tier 2 Isn’t enough. There is no solution is what I’m getting at. 
sadly the only option without having folk living on the streets when he economy collapses is to manage through as best we can. But it’s going to be horrific 

[Casino]

3 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said:

Open the nightingales, when they start filling, lock down hard if we are already in that situation in Liverpool then lock it down proper, the judgement should be made based on occupation levels in hospital and modelling projections gleaned from the first wave. 

Who is staffing the nightingales?

[Casino]

2 minutes ago, Escobarp said:

You’re preaching to the converted. Look back I called out the economic damage and human collateral way back when when people were not even thinking that way. We can’t afford lockdown agreed. But tier 2 Isn’t enough. There is no solution is what I’m getting at. 
sadly the only option without having folk living on the streets when he economy collapses is to manage through as best we can. But it’s going to be horrific 

well, bring it on

No use delaying

Fucked if im going to vote to wait 12 months for a vaccine

[Mounts Kipper]

2 minutes ago, Casino said:

Who is staffing the nightingales?

Put a call out to health workers across the globe. You’ll soon get the staff. 

[mickbrown]

3 minutes ago, Casino said:

Who is staffing the nightingales?

Those 50k nurses. Obvs

[Escobarp]

Just now, Casino said:

well, bring it on

No use delaying

Fucked if im going to vote to wait 12 months for a vaccine

Agree. We can’t live in perpetual limbo one day we’re doing x next day y. It’s a thankless task this and sadly with our climate it’s going to magnify the shitstorm.

 

Read this thread we’re all mentally drained ofthis and more and more are catching it or know folk who have it  

if someone has a vaccine that’s nearly ready to go now is the time to throw everything at it. 

[tyldesley_white]

4 minutes ago, Casino said:

Who is staffing the nightingales?

we can bring some of those foreign types in

[Farrelli]

8 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said:

Open the nightingales, when they start filling, lock down hard if we are already in that situation in Liverpool then lock it down proper, the judgement should be made based on occupation levels in hospital and modelling projections gleaned from the first wave. 

I'm glad you're not in charge. If the nightingales were filling up it would be already out of control and 3/4 month lockdown required again. That would finish many businesses. 

[Zico]

2 hours ago, Dr Faustus said:

well i've finally got the bastard and fuck me its like nowt else. i feel like its attacking my organs one by one, and then going back for more. i've had sweats, shits and some of seizure. i thought my chest would collapse and eyes would pop out... i cant lift my head or lie on my front for long... then a couple of hours later i'll feel fine

That's how i felt after most away games circa 2005

[Farrelli]

4 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said:

Put a call out to health workers across the globe. You’ll soon get the staff. 

😂

[mickbrown]

10 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said:

Open the nightingales, when they start filling, lock down hard if we are already in that situation in Liverpool then lock it down proper, the judgement should be made based on occupation levels in hospital and modelling projections gleaned from the first wave. 

Surely Tam and Whitty are calling for a circuit break based on projections and modelling?

Unless of course they are commie sabateuers looking to shaft the economy 

[Traf]

1 minute ago, Farrelli said:

😂

most won't meet the points criteria and most of those that do will have to quarantine

[Mounts Kipper]

1 minute ago, mickbrown said:

Surely Tam and Whitty are calling for a circuit break based on projections and modelling?

Unless of course they are commie sabateuers looking to shaft the economy 

They’ve got to give a medical based opinion then it’s left to the government, the ones who have to consider what the country can realistically afford, of course we could go with Starmers choice and shut down all the U.K. even those areas with 30 infections per 100k, costing billions more than necessary, thankfully we chose not to vote the clown party into power. 

[mickbrown]

2 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said:

They’ve got to give a medical based opinion then it’s left to the government, the ones who have to consider what the country can realistically afford, of course we could go with Starmers choice and shut down all the U.K. even those areas with 30 infections per 100k, costing billions more than necessary, thankfully we chose not to vote the clown party into power. 

Fair enough  I bet you a pint to that we'll be in national lockdown within 3 weeks. 

[Mounts Kipper]

Just now, mickbrown said:

Fair enough  I bet you a pint to that we'll be in national lockdown within 3 weeks. 

I’d very much doubt it, pint it is. 

[Rudy]

14 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said:

Put a call out to health workers across the globe. You’ll soon get the staff. 

You know it’s a global pandemic 

Those staff are already needed elsewhere, there isn’t a huge reserve of medical staff, not to mention if you did miraculously find the staff they’d have to quarantine, get up to speed

[tyldesley_white]

19 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said:

Put a call out to health workers across the globe. You’ll soon get the staff. 

just make sure they fill this form in

https://www.gov.uk/provide-journey-contact-details-before-travel-uk?fbclid=IwAR0dtrOwqMDpfw618nCjaY_LG7DZ6naKkiyDoIV73JJK8HDC5G3LS-aHz2Y

[mickbrown]

2 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said:

I’d very much doubt it, pint it is. 

👍I really do hope I'm wrong and we don't need it, but it's looking shite at the moment

[Mounts Kipper]

6 minutes ago, mickbrown said:

👍I really do hope I'm wrong and we don't need it, but it's looking shite at the moment

Let’s hope it’s not needed,  another one of your predictions going tits up. 😂

Edited October 15, 2020 by Mounts Kipper

[Zico]

6 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said:

Let’s hope it’s not needed,  another one of your predictions going tits up. 😂

The irony

[MancWanderer]

23 minutes ago, Casino said:

Who is staffing the nightingales?

They move elective staff over to COVID care and keep non-elective staff on their usual rotas. That’s a massive simplification but as an example......

I really need steroid injections in both my big toes. They really hurt but at the end of the day they ain’t going to call me in for X-Rays, out-patient appointment and then take me into the theatre to do them, and then look after me for a few hours on the ward. Times that by however many folk need simple procedures like that. Postpone them and that frees up a shit load of staff time who are redeployed

I jump In the car tomorrow and have a massive accident and the same orthopaedic department mend my broken bones because some staff are retained on the usual rotas looking after non-elective situations

Its called crisis management and the NHS are very good at it. 

[birch-chorley]

6 hours ago, Escobarp said:

You’re preaching to the converted. Look back I called out the economic damage and human collateral way back when when people were not even thinking that way. We can’t afford lockdown agreed. But tier 2 Isn’t enough. There is no solution is what I’m getting at. 
sadly the only option without having folk living on the streets when he economy collapses is to manage through as best we can. But it’s going to be horrific 

When the economy collapses and the NHS budget gets slashed we are looking at many more unnecessary deaths than we are saving now