gonzo Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 (edited) Id love Urkaine to somehow find their hands on some of these tactical nukes.. Edited October 19, 2022 by gonzo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Winchester White Posted October 19, 2022 Site Supporter Share Posted October 19, 2022 1 hour ago, Spider said: I read Tim Marshall’s stuff, he tends to be fairly accurate about geopolitical events, and he’s absolutely convinced Putin will use tactical nukes. That will drag NATO into the fray and from there it really is down to just how mental Putin actually is in terms of how far it escalates. The odds of it happening do seem much shorter now.  I read a piece this morning from an ex CIA guy that was really good. He thinks it is likely also, quite a frightening read. https://www.justsecurity.org/83605/addressing-putins-nuclear-threat-thinking-like-the-cold-war-kgb-officer-that-he-was/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Spider Posted October 19, 2022 Site Supporter Share Posted October 19, 2022 Putin is now evacuating Russians from Kherson as the Ukrainian army roll in. In case you were wondering where his most likely target for a tactical nuke was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Cheese Posted October 19, 2022 Site Supporter Share Posted October 19, 2022 7 minutes ago, Spider said: Putin is now evacuating Russians from Kherson as the Ukrainian army roll in. In case you were wondering where his most likely target for a tactical nuke was. He's attempting to evacuate Ukrainians, not Russians. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Spider Posted October 19, 2022 Site Supporter Share Posted October 19, 2022 7 minutes ago, Cheese said: He's attempting to evacuate Ukrainians, not Russians. They’re not leaving though, he’s taking those who want to go though. Either way, we are seemingly very close to him doing something fckin dreadful Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted October 19, 2022 Site Supporter Share Posted October 19, 2022 37 minutes ago, Spider said: They’re not leaving though, he’s taking those who want to go though. Either way, we are seemingly very close to him doing something fckin dreadful The tactical nuke, used as a escalate/de-escalate weapon, is deployed in an area with very few people. Minimises casualties, but sends a warning. Using one in a town defeats the object. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Spider Posted October 19, 2022 Site Supporter Share Posted October 19, 2022 2 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: The tactical nuke, used as a escalate/de-escalate weapon, is deployed in an area with very few people. Minimises casualties, but sends a warning. Using one in a town defeats the object. But he’s mentle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobyBrno Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 1 hour ago, Cheese said: He's attempting to evacuate Ukrainians, not Russians. He could let them go north then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomski Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 He won’t do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Cheese Posted October 19, 2022 Site Supporter Share Posted October 19, 2022 32 minutes ago, tomski said: He won’t do it. That's what everyone was saying on the 23rd of February. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Cheese Posted October 19, 2022 Site Supporter Share Posted October 19, 2022 54 minutes ago, BobyBrno said: He could let them go north then. I doubt the people wanting to leave have much choice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted October 19, 2022 Site Supporter Share Posted October 19, 2022 1 hour ago, Spider said: But he’s mentle That article from the cia man says not. Suppose it depends upon your view of things. To normal thinking folk he is just that, and an analysis by a psychologist gave good evidence. The cia man explains it in terms of an "indoctrination" and power crazy. Either way, he might use one, but using it incorrectly would hamper its effect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
athywhite1958 Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 If he uses one over the Black Sea surely it would affect Rusia too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobyBrno Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 59 minutes ago, Cheese said: I doubt the people wanting to leave have much choice. This is true. It’s deportation then. Nothing makes sense with Putin and the Russians. I wouldn’t put it past them to use the civilians as a human shield. Either troops mingling with civilians or a convoy of both to take heavy equipment with them. We’ll soon find out. There’s been a Ukrainian military blackout of information for the past week in Kherson region. Something is about happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Spider Posted October 19, 2022 Site Supporter Share Posted October 19, 2022 15 minutes ago, BobyBrno said: This is true. It’s deportation then. Nothing makes sense with Putin and the Russians. I wouldn’t put it past them to use the civilians as a human shield. Either troops mingling with civilians or a convoy of both to take heavy equipment with them. We’ll soon find out. There’s been a Ukrainian military blackout of information for the past week in Kherson region. Something is about happen. The Russians have obviously lost control. Might not be too many celebrations though, as Putin won't take that lightly. Feels like a turning point is upon is What does that Redneck in his shed have to say about it all? He's been pretty on the money so far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted October 19, 2022 Site Supporter Share Posted October 19, 2022 30 minutes ago, Spider said: The Russians have obviously lost control. Might not be too many celebrations though, as Putin won't take that lightly. Feels like a turning point is upon is What does that Redneck in his shed have to say about it all? He's been pretty on the money so far. They've not told him of their military plans neither I presume, so he's in the dark too. Hopefully plenty more air defense stuff going in and twatting of the Russians continuing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morizio Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 On 17/10/2022 at 16:47, Marc505 said: We can be friends! I’ve just seen this story https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-63327999 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc505 Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 16 minutes ago, Morizio said: I’ve just seen this story https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-63327999 They're the kinds of mishaps that lead to wars Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morizio Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 Just now, Marc505 said: They're the kinds of mishaps that lead to wars What are the planes involved, what will the RAF plane be doing and what do you think will be the escort fighter? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc505 Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 11 minutes ago, Morizio said: What are the planes involved, what will the RAF plane be doing and what do you think will be the escort fighter? It's one of the most power surveillance planes in the world basically soaking all sorts of radar, radio and electronic intelligence and theres not many of them available! As its on a NATO mission it could have anything from any of the member nations escorting it, it's literally on a rota I think. These aren't the kinds of close calls we want! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Spider Posted October 20, 2022 Site Supporter Share Posted October 20, 2022 48 minutes ago, Marc505 said: It's one of the most power surveillance planes in the world basically soaking all sorts of radar, radio and electronic intelligence and theres not many of them available! As its on a NATO mission it could have anything from any of the member nations escorting it, it's literally on a rota I think. These aren't the kinds of close calls we want! Probably a daft question, but why they called rivet joints? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc505 Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 31 minutes ago, Spider said: Probably a daft question, but why they called rivet joints? No idea actually! Many of the surveillance type planes have daft names like Cobra Ball and Combat Sent. Might just be two computer generated words Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 22 hours ago, Marc505 said: No idea actually! Many of the surveillance type planes have daft names like Cobra Ball and Combat Sent. Might just be two computer generated words Some big military plane thing going on over costa teguise tomorrow where I am. Ill take you some pics  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo Posted October 22, 2022 Share Posted October 22, 2022 20 hours ago, gonzo said: Some big military plane thing going on over costa teguise tomorrow where I am. Ill take you some pics   Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted October 22, 2022 Site Supporter Share Posted October 22, 2022 See there's major concern that the ruskies may be about to blow up a large dam, that will flood large parts of the kherson region and crimea too. Does that suggest they're concerned about losing both areas? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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