London Wanderer Posted November 12, 2023 Share Posted November 12, 2023 26 minutes ago, Duck Egg said: Some more patriotic football lads Just good English lads according to @wanderer1984 Victims of two tier policing 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
globaldiver Posted November 12, 2023 Share Posted November 12, 2023 1 hour ago, royal white said: A few more for the Met to look at “Death to all Jews” is a much used, misunderstood, phrase, which is often used in the wrong context. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
royal white Posted November 12, 2023 Share Posted November 12, 2023 Far right marching through Walkden today, blasting out GSTK (first verse only) before going to the local legion to down Stella’s. no arrests yet but lots of kettling. The day is still young though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Winchester White Posted November 12, 2023 Site Supporter Share Posted November 12, 2023 52 minutes ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said: Kind of, but the Mayor of London is responsible for holding the Met Comissioner to account and for setting policing priorities and budgets Sorry to be pedantic but it is a two way responsibility, the Home Sec and the MoL together. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
globaldiver Posted November 12, 2023 Share Posted November 12, 2023 15 minutes ago, royal white said: Far right marching through Walkden today, blasting out GSTK (first verse only) before going to the local legion to down Stella’s. no arrests yet but lots of kettling. The day is still young though. Stella’s what? 😇 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt. Aldo Raine Posted November 12, 2023 Share Posted November 12, 2023 31 minutes ago, Winchester White said: Sorry to be pedantic but it is a two way responsibility, the Home Sec and the MoL together. It's not, though The MOL is the the Police and Crime Commissioner for London and the responsibility for holding the Met to account, as well as the setting of policing priorities, lies with his office Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Winchester White Posted November 12, 2023 Site Supporter Share Posted November 12, 2023 5 minutes ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said: It's not, though The MOL is the the Police and Crime Commissioner for London and the responsibility for holding the Met to account, as well as the setting of policing priorities, lies with his office From the MET website: The Commissioner is accountable in law for exercising police powers and to the Mayor’s Office for Policing and Crime (MOPAC) and is held to account for the delivery of policing by the Home Secretary and the Mayor of London. Both have a role in appointing the Commissioner, with the decision taken by the Home Secretary following consultation with the Mayor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt. Aldo Raine Posted November 12, 2023 Share Posted November 12, 2023 21 minutes ago, Winchester White said: From the MET website: The Commissioner is accountable in law for exercising police powers and to the Mayor’s Office for Policing and Crime (MOPAC) and is held to account for the delivery of policing by the Home Secretary and the Mayor of London. Both have a role in appointing the Commissioner, with the decision taken by the Home Secretary following consultation with the Mayor. Fair enough But the MOL has a greater, direct role Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounts Kipper Posted November 12, 2023 Share Posted November 12, 2023 4 hours ago, Nowack said: The cenotaph had an exclusion zone set up around it did it not? I know some areas were set aside for counter protesters nearby but the cenotaph was out of bounds. Not true the counter protestors were supposedly allowed to go to the cenotaph. The counterprotest groups would be permitted to be at the Cenotaph where the pro-Palestine marchers are banned, he added, because the former’s “sole purpose and their intention is to protect the sanctity of the Cenotaph and Remembrance. So I don’t anticipate there will be any disorder from that group.” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wanderer1984 Posted November 12, 2023 Author Share Posted November 12, 2023 Just good old peaceful protesters according to LW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounts Kipper Posted November 12, 2023 Share Posted November 12, 2023 5 minutes ago, wanderer1984 said: Just good old peaceful protesters according to LW The met police puppets of Sadiq Kahn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted November 12, 2023 Site Supporter Share Posted November 12, 2023 Civil disorder? Nah, that's just being a drama queen. Vast majority are salt of the earth types having a decent, peaceful protest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ani Posted November 12, 2023 Share Posted November 12, 2023 25 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said: Not true the counter protestors were supposedly allowed to go to the cenotaph. The counterprotest groups would be permitted to be at the Cenotaph where the pro-Palestine marchers are banned, he added, because the former’s “sole purpose and their intention is to protect the sanctity of the Cenotaph and Remembrance. So I don’t anticipate there will be any disorder from that group.” Who is that quote from ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounts Kipper Posted November 12, 2023 Share Posted November 12, 2023 10 minutes ago, Ani said: Who is that quote from ? https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/nov/10/counterprotest-groups-plan-to-confront-pro-palestine-marchers-say-met-police Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ani Posted November 12, 2023 Share Posted November 12, 2023 5 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said: https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/nov/10/counterprotest-groups-plan-to-confront-pro-palestine-marchers-say-met-police Strange that they then tried to stop them What yesterday showed is that there are knob heads on both sides. But they do not represent the vast majority of people in the country who want a sustainable solution to the conflict and an end to innocents being killed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounts Kipper Posted November 12, 2023 Share Posted November 12, 2023 1 minute ago, Ani said: Strange that they then tried to stop them What yesterday showed is that there are knob heads on both sides. But they do not represent the vast majority of people in the country who want a sustainable solution to the conflict and an end to innocents being killed. I agree knob heads boths sides but it’s clear only one side were targeted by the Met. And while both sides are dealt with differently then the anger from that group will continue and most probably lead to more trouble. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Wanderer Posted November 12, 2023 Share Posted November 12, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, mickbrown said: Braverman is a shit stirring arsehole and she got exactly what she wanted yesterday. Simple as that chaps. Aye Imagine trying to attack a pro Palestine march & the police ( armed with knuckledusters & knives ) because a Tory told you it was a hate march. Proper English patriot patriots 😂 Gullible fuckwits. Now it’s Khan’s fault apparently, Christ. The Met said before that no serious disruption was planned, they were right. They’ve found a minority of idiots and will likely identify them. Credit where it’s due 👍 Obviously a few lads Twitter feed on a footy forum know better though. Edited November 12, 2023 by London Wanderer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Wanderer Posted November 12, 2023 Share Posted November 12, 2023 15 minutes ago, Ani said: Strange that they then tried to stop them What yesterday showed is that there are knob heads on both sides. But they do not represent the vast majority of people in the country who want a sustainable solution to the conflict and an end to innocents being killed. 👏 spot on. this two tier policing argument is ridiculous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ani Posted November 12, 2023 Share Posted November 12, 2023 2 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said: I agree knob heads boths sides but it’s clear only one side were targeted by the Met. And while both sides are dealt with differently then the anger from that group will continue and most probably lead to more trouble. The reality is mate that one side had a very high % of known 'lads'. Bit like on match day if you are in group of lads in Stone Island and Burberry caps you will get 'labelled' . You can hardly kettle 250000 people. Listening to some of the naive comments from the Palestine side it is pretty clear IMO that for a fair number of the protesters it is just this weeks fashionable protest. Based on the build up and rhetoric being spouted beforehand overall I think the policing was pretty ok , no major trouble. Gove is a total cunt for just turning up and happening to walk the Palestine protest IMO he knew just what he was doing. ( Me and Nadine Dorries agree on one thing!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Winchester White Posted November 12, 2023 Site Supporter Share Posted November 12, 2023 I see the British Transport Police are looking for help identifying several people on both sides for disturbances that happened at various railway and underground stations. In this day and age why folk they think they can say and do anything they like is beyond me, they have been filmed from every angle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickbrown Posted November 12, 2023 Share Posted November 12, 2023 2 minutes ago, Winchester White said: I see the British Transport Police are looking for help identifying several people on both sides for disturbances that happened at various railway and underground stations. In this day and age why folk they think they can say and do anything they like is beyond me, they have been filmed from every angle. 2 have been named already. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ani Posted November 12, 2023 Share Posted November 12, 2023 33 minutes ago, mickbrown said: 2 have been named already. Did they use real names or just London Wanderer and Royal White ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZiggyStardust Posted November 12, 2023 Share Posted November 12, 2023 1 hour ago, Mounts Kipper said: I agree knob heads boths sides but it’s clear only one side were targeted by the Met. And while both sides are dealt with differently then the anger from that group will continue and most probably lead to more trouble. Agree 100% with this. When one side has their legally owned homes and land seized by the other, and the world turns a blind eye, it will probably lead to more trouble. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounts Kipper Posted November 12, 2023 Share Posted November 12, 2023 (edited) 16 minutes ago, ZiggyStardust said: Agree 100% with this. When one side has their legally owned homes and land seized by the other, and the world turns a blind eye, it will probably lead to more trouble. This all reared up because Israel were talking with Saudi about peace and solving this issue. Hamas didn’t like that and murdered 1400 innocent Jews to make sure the peace talks ended… in short hamas prefers israel not to give stolen land back so they can continue to justify murdering Jews. Edited November 12, 2023 by Mounts Kipper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobyBrno Posted November 12, 2023 Share Posted November 12, 2023 Another illustration of how this conflict is not a left or right issue. Maybe it’s better to say right or wrong. People will still disagree. https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2023/nov/12/momentum-founder-jon-lansman-says-leftwingers-in-denial-about-pro-palestinian-slogans Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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