Covid-19

[Tonge moor green jacket]

20 minutes ago, boltondiver said:

The decision was made to not make any changes for the time being.

That is a decision.

clearly not what you wanted, but

This is what I don't get. 

Dan Walker doing a Spider this morning. 

Fuckin ell, for the time being nothing changes. A decision which allows some continuity. Whether or not it stays that way, we don't know.

Make the most of it, or refrain from too much socialising. 

Entirely down to the individual. 

My brother copped for it this morning, and is now isolating at home. Probably got it from work, but he also goes out a fair bit. The latter is his choice, and he's not complaining. 

[Traf]

Just now, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Dan Walker doing a Spider this morning. 

They do share a similar charismatic personality.

[Tonge moor green jacket]

10 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said:

I’d think the experts & scientist could figure it out from the information already out there. If they can’t model it from the info already available they aren’t experts. 

Crikey, it's a good job that Whitty doesn't speak about textiles!

 

[Mounts Kipper]

3 minutes ago, DazBob said:

Which scenario should they use?

SA modelling in addition to info gleaned from what’s happened here already, sadly the experts spout worse case scenario and we are locked down again, we shouldn’t be locking anything down unless projections show the NHS will be overwhelmed. 

[Mounts Kipper]

3 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Crikey, it's a good job that Whitty doesn't speak about textiles!

 

He needs to take a lesson in positivity.  Sooner he’s a distant memory can’t come soon enough. 

[Farrelli]

1 minute ago, Mounts Kipper said:

He needs to take a lesson in positivity.  Sooner he’s a distant memory can’t come soon enough. 

Haha 😂 come on Chris get your party poppers going when you announce death rates!

Edited December 21, 2021 by Farrelli

[Not in Crawley]

31 minutes ago, boltondiver said:

The decision was made to not make any changes for the time being.

That is a decision.

clearly not what you wanted, but

 I do understand the concept of pausing on a decision, BD. The issue is it's not been communicated that way. If the decision is to review daily, tell people but undrestand that business cannot operate in that way and when people have things planned over a holiday period which have cost them money.

So, you have to be clear and lay that plan out. This is obfuscation, and there is a fundmental difference.

If you think this is decision making, lordy.

[Not in Crawley]

58 minutes ago, boltondiver said:

Decisions have been made

Thats the best chuckle I've had all morning, BD - you've been a light on this thread these past days. Do keep it up.

[Mounts Kipper]

1 minute ago, Not in Crawley said:

Thats the best chuckle I've had all morning, BD - you've been a light on this thread these past days. Do keep it up.

Isn’t the state of play crack on for now, how’s that not a decision? 

[Rudy]

[Not in Crawley]

44 minutes ago, Mr Grey said:

He's on maternity leave, he's just had his 108th sprog, give him some time ffs! 😁

Unlike college cleaners, I'm still at work.

I'm waiting on booking a 28k TV ad and a 16K digital campaign. The client won't move until we know more about lockdowns and if they have to move dates because ents venues might be shut. That's money not coming to me, my company or the rest of the team.

So you can perhaps understand why I'd like a bit more clarity rather than, lets wait and see. Its not about if I can see grandma over turkey dinner

[Sweep]

The annoying thing is we all know a lockdown is coming and will commence either 27th or 28th. They're just delaying announcing it for as long as possible for some reason.

[wiggy]

10 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said:

SA modelling in addition to info gleaned from what’s happened here already, sadly the experts spout worse case scenario and we are locked down again, we shouldn’t be locking anything down unless projections show the NHS will be overwhelmed. 

Pretty much every county around the world is imposing restrictions because of the new variant and most of them way more severe than what is being done here. Presumably they’re all wrong?

[Not in Crawley]

2 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said:

Isn’t the state of play crack on for now, how’s that not a decision? 

See my post above. It effects my work and thosands of others as well.

Honestly, these uber-tories, you think they'd be up for supporting the small businesses of the UK. It would appear not, and whilst lockdown might not effect towelling dressing gown sales, it certainly impacts on other parts of the economy.

 

[Spider]

Local landlord needs to order his ale today in preparation for 28th onwards.

What should he do?

[Carlos]

Myself, I want to hear facts from Whitty, maybe it's just me that works in facts. If I wanted it presented with positivity, hows about Rylan? Big teeth gleaming as he tells us the death rates.

[Guest]

6 minutes ago, Not in Crawley said:

 I do understand the concept of pausing on a decision, BD. The issue is it's not been communicated that way. If the decision is to review daily, tell people but undrestand that business cannot operate in that way and when people have things planned over a holiday period which have cost them money.

So, you have to be clear and lay that plan out. This is obfuscation, and there is a fundmental difference.

If you think this is decision making, lordy.

Sometimes in life, you just have no choice but to live with uncertainty. We do it all day, every day, anyway, but there’s a greater degree at the moment.

it seems that you would prefer to lockdown indefinitely rather than have the opportunity to do some business.

Do what you can while you can.

It isn’t ideal, of course it isn’t, but it’s probably as good as it gets for now. 
 

Unless you prefer lockdown.

[Rudy]

1 minute ago, Spider said:

Local landlord needs to order his ale today in preparation for 28th onwards.

What should he do?

I can watch after if he likes 

[Not in Crawley]

1 minute ago, Mr Grey said:

What batteries does your torch use in the Theatre, got som spare triple AAA's. 

Tbf, that's a fair point, some industries require concrete decisions, but I'd doubt you'd get it with PM Whitty and Major Bojo.

 

Thank you, I'm not doing it to plan if I can go to Bolton or not (which would be nice) I'd like to be able to plan and also sort out my CoS payments before xmas.

[Sweep]

2 minutes ago, Spider said:

Local landlord needs to order his ale today in preparation for 28th onwards.

What should he do?

Not bother, he'll be shut for a fortnight. The government won't announce it until after he's placed his order though, obviously.

[Spider]

Local landlord needs to order his ale today in preparation for 28th onwards.

What should he do?

Bear in mind that today, nothing is due to change.

[Mounts Kipper]

4 minutes ago, wiggy said:

Pretty much every county around the world is imposing restrictions because of the new variant and most of them way more severe than what is being done here. Presumably they’re all wrong?

Doesn’t mean they are right. If the figures showing that the NHS is under threat then lock down, if not let’s get on with our lives, unless you want to continue to isolate & shield, that’s fine by me. 

[Not in Crawley]

2 minutes ago, boltondiver said:

Sometimes in life, you just have no choice but to live with uncertainty. We do it all day, every day, anyway, but there’s a greater degree at the moment.

it seems that you would prefer to lockdown indefinitely rather than have the opportunity to do some business.

Do what you can while you can.

It isn’t ideal, of course it isn’t, but it’s probably as good as it gets for now. 
 

Unless you prefer lockdown.

Read above, why the nelly nora would I, of all people on here earning a crust, want another fucking lockdown? Its the very last thing I want.

BUT we need a decision that isn't 'in 48 hours, this will happen'

Because then also all the short-term deals (last minute media) is then up the swanny because everyone is scrabbling around to buy it and therefore its not short-term anymore, its full price. The client won't spend at full-price so I lose the 10% inside and the booking, sales stall AND it then makes next year a pain in the arse.

This indecision is stopping me doing my business.

[Spider]

For clarity

I don’t think a lockdown is needed.

If you’re scared of Covid, stay at home.

The really thorny issue is isolation, and I don’t know the answer to that. Maybe that’s where a lockdown may be required.

Unless isolation rules are softened.

[Spider]

Just noticed the morecambe game has been potted. Fucks sake.