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A View From The Other Side

I realise some of you may have zero interest in this which is fair enough but from time to time I like to have a snoop on OppositionWays out of curiosity. Thought it was worth compiling some together which I'll do in this thread whenever I get chance. 

Seems like Lincoln have some pretty level headed fans but then one or two absolutely bitter fuckers. 

Pick of the bunch includes:

THE BITTER

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How about 10 points deducted for every £million of debt a club has?
Wonder just how low these perennial cheats would drop?

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Bolton stayed in Lincoln last night. Not leaving much to chance.

No that was so they could rack up extra debt.

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Surely we can't lose to these cheats?
Why are they not on multiple minus points?

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I'd rather be us than them. How long do they have to pay their debt?

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The simple truth is, as much as the away fans won't want to admit it, we lost to one of those vile clubs tonight. One of those that has spent beyond their means, and clearly continues to do so.

 

THE PRAISE

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Good game. Shit result.
By the standards of last season Bolton should be pushing for promotion. But then that was last season.

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Beaten by the better team. Good to see a big away following.

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FT. Good game. Credit to Bolton - they did enough to control the game throughout, although we had some bright moments, especially in the first half. They also scored at exactly the right time and managed the game out. 

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Bolton also look like a really good side who should be in the top half of the table.

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I have backed Bolton to win the league as I think they are a decent team. They looked like a very settled team that are used to winning.

Taken from https://forums.vitalfootball.co.uk/threads/match-thread-lincoln-city-v-bolton-wanderers.117675/page-25 

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That was a fascinating game. Evatt confused the shit out of me the way he set us up but having listened to what the fans were saying about their team it all made sense in the end. Have to say Evatt did a great job tactically, but it was a bit nerve-wracking when we backed off and they brought the big lads on.  I was surprised when they didn't start with them TBH.

Anyhoo, 3 points thank you very much.

Hotdog looks a rip off. Needs both ketchup and mustard. And onions.

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2 minutes ago, Wanderlust said:

Hotdog looks a rip off. Needs both ketchup and mustard. And onions.

... & butter. Dry bread is for ducks.

15 minutes ago, Wanderlust said:

Hotdog looks a rip off. Needs both ketchup and mustard. And onions.

 

11 minutes ago, Dr. Feelgood said:

... & butter. Dry bread is for ducks.

And, most importantly, COOKING!

I’ve had more sausage than Big E recently with having a hotdog at Wycombe (the one pictured definitely wasn’t from the van next to the fan zone) and then two of them at Shrewsbury (already known to contain magical powers after eliminating my hangover at the 1-0 win the other year)

17 hours ago, Leyther_Matt said:

I’ve had more sausage than Big E recently with having a hotdog at Wycombe (the one pictured definitely wasn’t from the van next to the fan zone) and then two of them at Shrewsbury (already known to contain magical powers after eliminating my hangover at the 1-0 win the other year)

Lies.

nobody has had more sausage than @Big E

Can somebody do the honours for Blackpool game, I went on donkeyways but apparently I'm banned,

Not seen Shropshire yet.

I’m on Blackpool now if Marc wants to do Salop.

4 minutes ago, MickyD said:

I’m on Blackpool now if Marc wants to do Salop.

Shrewsbury's on page 48.

59 minutes ago, DomRepWanderer said:

Shrewsbury's on page 48.

Ah, it was Charlton missing.

No ones arsed. Just do Blackpool. 

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On it now @MickyD.

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PREMATCH 

*Talking about our injury situation*

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Well the way they are scoring for fun - any of the goalscorers that are out has to be good news for us.

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Don't believe this downplaying until you see their teamsheet.

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So what, they have 23 other players and won at a stroll last night

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Whilst I believe that anything can happen on the day, even the brief highlights of them away at Shrewsbury on Tuesday night look like they easily dominated, created chances and kept the opposition out.

*On Upper vs Lower Tier seats*

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Looking forward to it. I think we'll win to be honest.

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Surely you don't have to sit in designated seats?

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I'd imagine you'll have to go in designated tier. Regards to seats who knows, some will, some won't which leads itself to chaos. Would be better with total unallocated or total allocated but who am I to show a bit of common sense.

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If they are sold without seat numbers then they have to reduce the allocation I think. Easier to sell them with seat numbers, sell more, then let battle commence between those who go where they like and those who go to the seat number on their ticket!!

*On Evatt*

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I don’t want any love in with him - he’s the oppositions manager
Yes he was a very good player for us, but tomorrow is different
Clapping the opposition manager just because he’s an ex player is naff and cringeworthy

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Great player for us over 7 seasons, a club great and a leader on the pitch.

He’s since taken that into management and is doing very well with Bolton having played 184 games with 93 wins and 39 draws, giving him a 50% win ratio.

As we prepare to play his side this weekend, my hypothetical questions are;

Do people think he’d have had the same success with us if we’d have gone all out to get him instead of Critchley? Would he have got us promoted to the Championship?
Another big question would be if he had done that, would he have stayed loyal being a club legend, or have been poached away by Derby or QPR for example?
It will be interesting to see how a team he’s moulded comes up against our Critchley led one on Saturday, and the different philosophies of the two managers.

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I mean , he hasn't managed to get Bolton up yet and they're averaging nearly double our attendances and must be able to match, or likely slightly better our budget and they have better facilities.

So i'd say he probably wouldn't have gotten us promoted, but yes if he did he would definitely have left us for a top end championship club. Sure, he has some great memories here but football management can be a short career and as Bob Dylan said money doesn't talk it swears.

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Critchley will know exactly how Bolton play. Wigan exposed them badly. I hope Norburn is fit and we have the courage to go at them with both Carey and Dembele. We need to get those tickets sold and get right behind the lads.

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I don't know if it would (have) worked here for him. He's a manager not a head coach and he'd have had Mansford and others milling about getting under his feet. First thing he did at Bolton was kick off at the board until they changed their management and recruitment structure for him.

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Expecting a lesson in how wing backs actually work this weekend as that's his settled system done properly and they're on for five wins in a row currently.

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They’ve not looked great tonight but Sheehan in the middle looks very tidy. Sit back and let them play at their own pace like Peterborough first half and we’ll play right into their hands.

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Yep, I agree with @poolfc that Evatt is a Manager in the traditional ‘finger in every pie’ sense. I think along with a few other issues around lifestyle, that means he’s not really a good fit for us here at Blackpool.

There was a time where I’d have had him as my number 1 choice, but we’re trying to do something here that will hopefully offer us much more longevity / continuity and I’m not convinced it’s worth upsetting that process to accommodate an Evatt type.

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They have double our attendance probably because the population of Bolton is double that of Blackpool

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I actually think IE was the perfect match for us. I remember listening to an interview during his time at Barrow... what a brilliant communicator.

I would've taken him over Critchley any time. IE was by far the better option. At the time he also gave the impression he wanted to come back to Blackpool. Bolton didn't mess around they knew exactly what he was about. Their fans love him as much as we once did.

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Yet he didn't get an interview.

Maybe there was something in his background that spoiled the apparent image?

I bet there was.

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I also watched the game and thought they were very good . High intensity play their press was outstanding. The Shrews were never given a moment on the ball and consequently in possession made error after error. Thought Charles was a real handful his closing down was tremendous. As you pointed out Sheehan was also very good . It was a great team performance they pressed as a team . I thought they would tire but they managed to continue with the high intensity for most of the game . Hopefully we will benefit from a few more days rest, but if we start slow, dither at the back, and give possession through wayward passes we will be in trouble imho.

Couldn’t help thinking this might have been our style of play if we had taken a chance on IE .
One other point to note is that despite their style of play they didn’t pick up 1 yellow card .

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When Evatt was at Barrow , when they lost possession, didn’t he count to 7 , in which time the players had to regain possession, which it sounds like he is still insisting on at Bolton ?

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I wonder if he’s a put anything on at the bookies that he’ll be managing a championship club in 2024?

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He won't be leaving Noblot any time soon. He owns some of it 

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They have double our attendance probably because the population of Bolton is double that of Blackpool

Blackpool town: 145,000
Bolton town: 194,000

Blackpool Urban Area: 240,000
Bolton Metropolitan Area: 296,000

*Prematch chat*

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We tend to fuck up 2-0 leads there.

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remembering a game around 1988 I think, a friend said fancy driving us to Bolton for the game, I said I can but I have no brakes. He took that I was joking. All was fine till it started lashing it down, coming off the motorway into Bolton the traffic had backed up so yanked my handbrake and span 360* across the motorway, stopping inches from the car in front, I was a teenager didn’t have a clue where we were going so followed the car in front with Blackpool scarves in the back window. They drove all over the place and eventually through an outdoor market, followed them in and eventually due to all the folk at the market they ground to a halt. Got out my car to ask if they knew where they were going, took some persuasion to get them to wind window down saying why are you following us? I said trying to get to the game, he said we saw you hand brake turning off the motorway and thought you were a psychopath!!! To which I explained no I just have no brakes.  I wonder if that is anyone off here in the car in front? Surely won’t ever forget it. My friend white as a sheet said i thought you were joking.

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I guess we're due a win there

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Remember going on the train years ago. On the way home Police told us to close the window blinds and lay in corridor. Train then was bombarded by stones. No windows broke but it was scary stuff. Hated Bolton ever since.

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Due a win at the Toughshoite stadium. 💩

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Never seen us win at Burnden, Breezeblock or the toughshite 

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Dembele must start on what will be our biggest away following for years , let's not worry about the opposition let them worry about us !

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Our biggest game of the season, how I wish I could attend this one.

Fancy us for a result.

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Bolton’s home form is pretty consistent…Agent Evo needs to help out his old pals here.

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Last time I saw us win there was 30th September 1967, a 2-1 away win . 2 fantastic goals from Graham Oates and Tony Green. As I recall , a very lively afternoon in the unsegregated Lever End .

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I had a lump of coal hit me on the head after Graham Oates scored. Never been the same since hence my username.

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I’m trembling at the thought of them scabbing a draw

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AM i reading that right. the toughsheet stadium. how many names has that place had. though it could be toughs..t for someone come 5.pm.

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*replying to Wanderlust*

I'm pretty sure you'll win. I think we have play-off ability but it's still developing. I think you lot are pretty well organised. You may get automatic and you may not. But you'll be well up there this season.

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There are no stand out teams and everyone can beat each other. It's all about who is the most consistent and sadly that is something we are shit at.

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Bolton away matters to us and we demand a performance this time ! I can't make this one but my son is leaving London at 5.30 to give it you lot, large !

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Cannot wait for tomorrow. Alarm set.

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Start Dembele and have him running at those massive defenders - he could run rings round those guys

 

DURING

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Dion Charles looks a better player than he did at Fylde.

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I'll regret saying this, but at the moment we're looking good.

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I'm being subjected to the Bolton commentary on my firestick.

Bloody annoying.

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Our fans are class.

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I think we edged that first half.

Shame we couldn't score.

Our fans have been magnificent.

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decent half, bolton very cautious, we look more of a threat on the break, dembele is looking dangerous. Norburn 's not really got into the game yet.

if anyone pushed onto santos i think he might be prone to the odd mistake under pressure

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Formation looks solid. Bolton struggling for ideas. 

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Keep saying this but we are a good team. Bolton are one of the favs in this league and in that half I thought we edged it despite that flurry at the end of the half.

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ref started to give them everything.

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A lot of 50/50 calls seem to go to Bolton here.

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Wtf is this ref on, foul on Rhodes again. Freekick to Bolton.

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We're under the cosh at the moment.

Not sure whether it's us sitting back or Bolton pressing

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shit

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He takes off Dembele, and look what happens.

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Brought that upon ourselves but what a strike

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Been coming that only one team going for it here.
Bolton look like they'll score every attack.

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Critchley out. This is wank.

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*from wanderlust*

6 yellows (5 for Bolton) and not a single bad tackle in the whole game.
Toner is a cock.

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Dreadful referee.

Evo booked now.

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4, fuck off it took that long for the charting cunts ti take a feee kick earlier 

 

POST MATCH

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Beaten by the better side. We won't be anywhere near the top 6. It comes down to the man appointing the wrong manager over and over.

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Leave Critchley at Bolton and bring Evo back to Blackpool

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Don’t forget Bolton have been building for this over the past few years, we are recovering from a wreckage of a season . We won’t go up this season, but we might be a hell of team next

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Took a wonder strike, but it was always likely to happen with the space they had.

I feel for the 4000+ of our fans who were there; you deserved better.

Really disappointed in that.

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Fuck me, we've narrowly lost to a team at home who have won 11 games out of 16 this season and we're totally shite again!

OK, we lost, shit happens, give your fucking heads a wobble

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Tough shit from the Tough Sheet.

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We played well & that wonder strike was the difference 😞
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A lot of our players looked like League Two players today. That is a real problem

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The game, like most football matches, was decided in the midfield. Their numbers 8 & 19 looked after the ball well and mostly looked to go forward. We had Morgan & Carey who were anonymous and Norburn who doesn’t have an attacking pass in him. Missed Dougall in there today.

Bolton weren’t great just well organised, we weren’t awful but gave possession away too easily too often, one of which led to the goal.

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Their no 8 absolutely ran the whole show. Looked for the ball and continually played it forward to one of their players. Tidy player and exactly what we are crying out for.

He was certainly the stand out player this afternoon.

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Bolton had won 5 in a row before today and were bang in form. I thought for the most part we handled them well but it affected our forward play. Thats the first time we’ve not scored since Wycombe away - 12 games ago. We will lose games and that today was one they we could and have lost

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I thought it was a tense game where neither team wanted to lose. I said it will privately go 1-0 Bolton just before kick off. Wanderers deserve to be where they are because they can keep teams out, manage possession when they need to and score decent goals from nothing. That’s what they did today. In other home games they’ve won quite convincingly.

They were definitely worried about us but we undercooked some of our short passes and final balls which came from their unforced errors.
 

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Wtf happened at the station just about made it 10x worse

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Lavery’s movement would have troubled their back line, & in particular may have made the ref step in & act about Santos’ constant “obstructions”.

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Fully agree their No.8 was outstanding today never stopped looking for the ball and carrying it forward, he was the difference together with Santos!

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The fans deserved better but say that every week

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I am not even talking about the result. It's just fucking boring. We celebrate a corner because there's sod all else.

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That is one of the worst designed stadiums that I've ever seen.

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That is one of the worst designed stadiums that I've ever seen.

You know its always been one of my favourites. I think the KFC might have something to do with it though 😂

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Shite home fans, only started after they scored then faded off

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It was a decent first 20mins, after that Bolton were the better side

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Can’t believe all that hard work and effort we didn’t manage a single effort on target. 

Has to be said Bolton won at a canter this afternoon.

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They battered us and scored in a 20 minutes second half spell. That was the difference. That aside there was nowt in it. 

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some truly bizarre officiating again.

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has anyone any videos of that man and women who were causing a stir behind the lower tier this afternoon?

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That bint was a piece of work.

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No but I was in front of it.

Both a pair bell ends.
Got told off for drinking in view of the pitch which they did several times.
Giving it large to away fans several metres away out of order.

The bloke gets told off by security then the misses carriers on giving shit to pool fans then he come and grabs her away then gives her a slap then gets thrown out and she stays watching the game.

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Shocking today. Kicked off at the station as per always.. to be followed by a 45 minute wait at Horwich for the train to be cancelled at Preston.

Awful

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We were kettled on the bridge for 45 minutes gave up and got a cab home, treated like second class citizens once again by the boys and girls in blue.

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That journey home was utterly depressing.

What a shitshow and utter bollocks excuses.

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Train wasn’t moving for about 40 mins, staff at station said the doors had been forced open breaking the train and there was no way of fixing it…. Said they were getting a bus organised… people fuming, train then set off..

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Trains were a mare even before the game. Went to Manchester first for food and drinks, wanted to get the 2 o clock from Piccadilly back to Horwich which was cancelled. Got an Uber, stuck in traffic, missed most of the first half

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*On a thread about the amount of goals they concede outside the box*

That was a fucking worldie tbf !

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I think you're being unfair, he hit that so hard and clean it was unstoppable imo.

 

51 minutes ago, matty2094 said:

That is one of the worst designed stadiums that I've ever seen.

Fuck off! And when you’ve fucked off, keep going and fuck off a bit further!

Here’s a team with a shit temporary away stand thinks our stadium is the worst he’s ever seen!

Good to hear/read their thoughts on Josh Sheehan. He’s class at this level 

Disappointed you didn’t include Wanderlusts comments Matty! 😆

7 hours ago, matty2094 said:

Views selected from A View From The Tower. A LOT of different threads to sift through.

PREMATCH 

*Talking about our injury situation*

*On Upper vs Lower Tier seats*

*On Evatt*

*Prematch chat*

 

DURING

 

POST MATCH

 

Nice one Matty 👍🏻 

7 hours ago, Whitesince63 said:

Disappointed you didn’t include Wanderlusts comments Matty! 😆

I'm not sure there'd be room.

8 hours ago, Whitesince63 said:

Disappointed you didn’t include Wanderlusts comments Matty! 😆

FFS don't encourage the windbag. Brevity definitely isn't his forte.

9 hours ago, Traf said:

Good to hear/read their thoughts on Josh Sheehan. He’s class at this level 

Was just going to say the same. He really is.

And nice one Matty for compiling. Heart warming read that over brekkie.

Blows my mind that their fans seem so sure that Evatt would jump ship if they came calling.

Take a look around our stadium when we go 1-0 up yesterday. As if he’d sack off everything that he has here after all he’s achieved so far and the freedom he has in his role, just to go back to Blackpool. Laughable.

Delighted Sheehan is proving me wrong. Never doubted his technical ability but felt he was a bit too much of a luxury player for the physical stuff.

No such thing. Long may it continue

10 hours ago, matty2094 said:

Views selected from A View From The Tower. A LOT of different threads to sift through.

PREMATCH 

*Talking about our injury situation*

*On Upper vs Lower Tier seats*

*On Evatt*

*Prematch chat*

 

DURING

 

POST MATCH

 

Good Read that 

Even they Have 

Population Nonces on there 

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