Cheese Posted February 24 Posted February 24 We dropped out of the Prem at the worst possible time really. The season after we were relegated, parachute payments became more lucrative than actually winning the title a year earlier. Typical Bolton. Quote
masi 51 Posted February 24 Posted February 24 30 minutes ago, Cheese said: We dropped out of the Prem at the worst possible time really. The season after we were relegated, parachute payments became more lucrative than actually winning the title a year earlier. Typical Bolton. Very true but with that the salaries started spiralling out of control. Doubt as a industry it will ever be sustainable It amazes me how businessmen who have made Billions change industry and are so inept Quote
Eddie Posted February 24 Posted February 24 7 hours ago, masi 51 said: Very true but with that the salaries started spiralling out of control. Doubt as a industry it will ever be sustainable It amazes me how businessmen who have made Billions change industry and are so inept It’s not a functioning business model though. 90% of clubs in English football don’t survive at the level their fans expect sustainably. Look at Wigan. They’ve been up to the prem for a sustained period but have about 7k fans coming through their gate which is their main revenue stream. Their fans would expect to push upwards (as we do), but their new owner says they need to be able to stand on their own two feet - that would be L2 budget based on the revenue they bring in. It’s not the ineptness of successful business people that amazes me - there’s no other way with football - it’s the fact they want to get in it in the first place. Some, like Liverpool’s owners, will make a mint from it because valuations for top clubs are going through the roof, but if you’re anything other than one of the big 5/6 clubs you’re on a hiding to nothing unless you time it perfectly, can reach the prem and get out. The Venky’s must wonder what the fuck they ever decided to buy Rovers for, they are well and truly stuck between a rock and hard place. Stop propping them up and there’s never a chance you get your money back, keep throwing money at them in the hope they get lucky one season and hit the big time. Mental. Quote
Krimzon Posted February 25 Posted February 25 On 21/02/2026 at 19:41, Winchester White said: Of course you are right, taking too many of most Meds such as painkillers isn't good. My mum had horrendous Crohn's all her life and extensive steroid use back in the day absolutely ruined her later years unfortunately. I was just curious as to the paracetamol claim as I would have thought nsaids would be far worse. Late reply but Nsaids such as Ibuprofen (Brufen for the older ones ) are Non-steroidal anti inflammatory drugs . Should be relatively safe for use in most illnesses . Long term use of steroids leads to a condition called "tissue paper skin" which doesnt just affect the skin but thats the bit you see most and definitely would have been not-good for your mums G.I. Tract. We know relatively little asbout asthma . The Aussies came up with a theory that its akin to eczema in the lungs and why they think the two go hand in hand . Paracetamol is the safest of the big 3 "painkillers" for asthma , but they can all trigger attacks , as can lager , perfume, hairspray , aftershave and about a million other things . The 3 most common painkillers arent actually painkillers . They originally had different uses i.e. Ibuprofen is an antinflammatory designed to reduce swelling , Apirin is an anticoagulant or blood thinner (which is why its not safe if you have ever had ulcers or a gastric bleed) and paracetamol is an antipyretic used to reduce fever . Like Viagra they became more common for the "side-effects" than the primary use . When I was last in ICU IV paracetamol had just become common practice as an equal and alternative to Morphine which demonstrates how strong it is especially when combined with something like codine. The problems with paracetamol is that is easily available anywhere and is the drug of choice for "cry for help" suicide attempts . However most people are unaware of the catastrophic affects it has on the liver and kidneys in fairly small doses e.g. 12 tabs or 6g of paracetamol is enough to not kill you as an overdose but enough to fuck the liver so much that you can be dead 6 months later . Because of this the majority of doctors Ive met wanted paracetamol to be prescription only . Quote
Krimzon Posted February 25 Posted February 25 On 22/02/2026 at 10:53, Tonge moor green jacket said: I agree. Some of the meds I take regularly mean that I shouldn't take nsaids. Certainly not in any quantity. Even without that, they are known for being dicky on the tum. If at all possible look for packets of tabs that have EC or enteric coated on them . These have a protective outer layer that help to prevent the corrosive effects on the stomach . Quote
Traf Posted February 25 Posted February 25 6 hours ago, Krimzon said: When I was last in ICU IV paracetamol had just become common practice as an equal and alternative to Morphine which demonstrates how strong it is especially when combined with something like codine. The problems with paracetamol is that is easily available anywhere and is the drug of choice for "cry for help" suicide attempts . However most people are unaware of the catastrophic affects it has on the liver and kidneys in fairly small doses e.g. 12 tabs or 6g of paracetamol is enough to not kill you as an overdose but enough to fuck the liver so much that you can be dead 6 months later . Because of this the majority of doctors Ive met wanted paracetamol to be prescription only . yet you can buy 16 paracetamol for about 30p... Quote
Krimzon Posted February 25 Posted February 25 1 hour ago, Traf said: yet you can buy 16 paracetamol for about 30p... yup , and go shop to shop to get more . Quote
wakey Posted March 4 Posted March 4 2 hours ago, Marc505 said: Some interesting bits about Tobias Phoenix in this. full version is here. Speaks a bit more about Bolton. https://barnsleyfc.org.uk/threads/keith-hill-david-flitcroft-podcast.344105/ Quote
Lt. Aldo Raine Posted March 4 Posted March 4 4 hours ago, wakey said: full version is here. Speaks a bit more about Bolton. https://barnsleyfc.org.uk/threads/keith-hill-david-flitcroft-podcast.344105/ What time does he start speaking about us? No offence to him but I can't be arsed with the rest of it Quote
Clarence Carter Posted March 4 Posted March 4 5 minutes ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said: What time does he start speaking about us? No offence to him but I can't be arsed with the rest of it Starts on 51:52. If you click on the video it starts from there. Quote
Lt. Aldo Raine Posted March 4 Posted March 4 3 minutes ago, Clarence Carter said: Starts on 51:52. If you click on the video it starts from there. Nice one Quote
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