We had a decent thread a while back discussing Evatt’s philosophies and approach to the game (think it got tainted and pulled)

So not a bad time to start it up again at the beginning of the season.

In the main he’s done a fantastic job. A minority lost patience round about Xmas/New Year in both seasons. 

But surely now he has the large backing of the majority of fans and the brand he talked about implementing here is now well and truly established.

Good article above highlighting how he’s using Sport Science to get the squad performing to it’s optimum level.

A young, meticulous, intelligent and passionate individual, who we are very lucky to have leading our club.

I hope he gets what he deserves with promotion to the Championship. 

43 minutes ago, Carlos said:

The 50% thing is when you factor in the EFL Trophy. He’s fucking miles off Bruce Rioch. Fucking miles off.

Its exactly 50% on league games only (yes, I was surprised too)

It's not a suprise to me at all. Our win rate against the middle and bottom teams in the league is great, but it isn't good enough to make up for our almost 100% loss rate against the good teams and our occasional mistake/ lapse in judgement against the bad ones (built into the way we play). He will never get us promoted...he isn't capable.

6 minutes ago, Zog1 said:

It's not a suprise to me at all. Our win rate against the middle and bottom teams in the league is great, but it isn't good enough to make up for our almost 100% loss rate against the good teams and our occasional mistake/ lapse in judgement against the bad ones (built into the way we play). He will never get us promoted...he isn't capable.

Form shouldn't be part of the decision. It should be purely "will Evatt get us promoted?" And the answer throughout the season has been "very unlikely" therefore he should be gone.

I'm amazed the board are letting us waste the season

17 hours ago, superjohnmcginlay said:

If he’s to stay to the end of the season just wish they would come out and say it. 
 

that would cut through a lot of it, then you either like it or hate but least you know. 

Doing nothing says everything 

He survived Huddersfield and Stockport, he'll survive this

Whilst we're looking "good" for the top six, he's going nowhere

17 minutes ago, Zico said:

Doing nothing says everything 

He survived Huddersfield and Stockport, he'll survive this

Whilst we're looking "good" for the top six, he's going nowhere

Points wise,we're closer to the relegation places than we are to the top two (which surely was the target before the season).

5 minutes ago, ZiggyStardust said:

Points wise,we're closer to the relegation places than we are to the top two (which surely was the target before the season).

I'm sure it was but at the same time I'm sure any any sort of promotion is acceptable

Which I'm assuming is why he's still here

9 minutes ago, Zico said:

I'm sure it was but at the same time I'm sure any any sort of promotion is acceptable

Which I'm assuming is why he's still here

Promotion via play off requires winning a crunch game and he's not good at that at all.

44 minutes ago, frank_spencer said:

Promotion via play off requires winning a crunch game and he's not good at that at all.

And this is it, I said to our group two seasons ago I didn't want to finish in the play-offs as we can never trust them. So for me it was automatic or bust.

Two seasons later, we have a worse squad but the same failings are there. I'm not sure what can now happen for Evatt for anybody to not have that nagging doubt they are gonna bottle it at some point!!

He’s not taking us up. Sooner the board realise this the better it is for everybody. 

We are not just losing against top end teams and local rivals, far too often we are rolling over and having our bellies tickled and it's not been addressed...... That is the unforgivable bit. We went to Wembley and lay down against a team we had put 5 past previously because the team are weak mentally and the manager isn't able to sort it and seems unable to even acknowledge the problem. 

11 minutes ago, mickbrown said:

He’s not taking us up. Sooner the board realise this the better it is for everybody. 

 Sharon and Evatt are way too cosy

1 hour ago, JimmyRiddle said:

And this is it, I said to our group two seasons ago I didn't want to finish in the play-offs as we can never trust them. So for me it was automatic or bust.

Two seasons later, we have a worse squad but the same failings are there. I'm not sure what can now happen for Evatt for anybody to not have that nagging doubt they are gonna bottle it at some point!!

Does anybody have a nagging doubt? I've felt complete certainty he couldn't do it for months now. This whole period is just a pointless limbo because win lose or draw it's plain as a pike staff we're not going up.

1 hour ago, RONNIE PHILLIPS said:

We are not just losing against top end teams and local rivals, far too often we are rolling over and having our bellies tickled and it's not been addressed...... That is the unforgivable bit. We went to Wembley and lay down against a team we had put 5 past previously because the team are weak mentally and the manager isn't able to sort it and seems unable to even acknowledge the problem. 

Hardly fair to expect him to sort a problem when he is the problem. Same players different manager would be fine. Atmosphere and culture of a team are the manager's job, and this team is the complete mirror image of their manager - vain, arrogant, and crumble at the first sign of pressure.

5 minutes ago, maaarsh said:

Hardly fair to expect him to sort a problem when he is the problem. Same players different manager would be fine. Atmosphere and culture of a team are the manager's job, and this team is the complete mirror image of their manager - vain, arrogant, and crumble at the first sign of pressure.

We've been a joy to watch under Evatt - until this season. Wembley made his head fall off.

Regardless of yesterday’s abject performance it’ll be brave call to get rid given the last 13 games we’ve for 26 points. 

6 minutes ago, Cheese said:

We've been a joy to watch under Evatt - until this season. Wembley made his head fall off.

When we lost 4-0 at home to Wigan was that before or after Wembley?

I don't disagree though - he really believed his own hype and ignored the obvious patterns of failure until that point. Since then his own self confidence has been shaken and he's lashing around desperately trying to grasp a solution, unfortunately lacking the ability to make it happen.

Players can see and feel it, and the spiral doesn't get better until the board change something.

5 minutes ago, maaarsh said:

When we lost 4-0 at home to Wigan was that before or after Wembley?

I don't disagree though - he really believed his own hype and ignored the obvious patterns of failure until that point. Since then his own self confidence has been shaken and he's lashing around desperately trying to grasp a solution, unfortunately lacking the ability to make it happen.

Players can see and feel it, and the spiral doesn't get better until the board change something.

The pre-Wembly Wigan humiliations were fairly quickly forgotten. This one won't be.

I agree with Mounts. On the face of it 26 for 13 isn't bedsheet stuff, but it's the manner and total predictability of yesterday that is the problem. If we had them in hand I'd say 'it's only 3 points, same as any defeat'.

Maybe that's the opinion of the owners, but they claim to know what this fixture means and that it's much more than 3 points.  The way we keep making the same underestimating mistakes though means it will keep on happening.

It's shit anyone (potentially) losing their job and I'm sure nobody relishes IE being on the sticky end, but it you kept making the same glaring mistakes in the real world you'd soon be up the yard.

Edited December 15, 20241 yr by FrancisFogarty

He’s a clown. 

Evatt can pick out the last 13 games then go on a mini run later in the season and say we have t lost in the last 5 and pick that out

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If you look at trends the last 12 months haven’t been great then take into account budget he as money he as wasted . bottling constantly when the pressure is on a weaker league we’re Wycombe are top and we’re in a lower position than 12 months ago . It all points to a decline there as been no improvement 

It's exactly 12m since the televised Portsmouth away match which was, I believe, the beginning of Bolton's downward form.

Obviously we've still picked up points but nowhere near our ability.

If I hear more about 26 points from 13 games I will lose my shit.

What about 4 years of failure to get out of this league. What about our points per game against top 6 and local rivals? 

4-0 loss to Huddersfield at home, 2-0 to a shocking Wigan side, 5-0 to Stockport away, Birmingham 2-0 and this is only this season! 

Our record last year was just as bad. All I hear from him in his interviews is "me, me, me". He doesn't acknowledge or learn from his failings that have repeated themselves over and over again, supporters have had enough!

We are stuck in an endless cycle of failure under this manager. We can go and win some games against awful sides and then it will be, "oh we have won our last 2/3". But it matters fuck all when we then have another shocking performance and then "reset and refocus".

This is not how you get promoted. Teams lose games yes, but we have lost far more than we should be with this squad and the way we are losing as well. The same patterns that have been occuring 3/4 years ago.

29 goals conceded already this season. Twenty nine. We conceded just 36 goals 2 seasons ago and we have 28 more games to play. How is this a sign of progress under this clown?

The table doesn't lie, this is why we are 8th in the table and could be 16 points behind Wycombe on Friday night. 

The man should have been shown the door after Wembley but was given a lifeline. We needed to start this season well or be in around the top teams.

We have not been anywhere near, we have actually regressed.

He has to go and has to go now.

Edited December 15, 20241 yr by Lostock Whites

3 hours ago, frank_spencer said:

Promotion via play off requires winning a crunch game and he's not good at that at all.

I know its easy to be negative after a demoralising defeat, I'm not jumping on the bandwagon when I say I don't think we need to be concerned about losing in the play offs this year (under IE).  I think our position now is as good as it gets, we've had the easier run of fixtures.   Only played 8 away (10 at home).  The games get tougher from now until Cambridge and we look weaker than last season.  IE will say the cavalry are coming back on 1st Jan, we know that day never comes, its a broken record and I don't see this team maintaining the current points per game average.

1 hour ago, Mounts Kipper said:

Regardless of yesterday’s abject performance it’ll be brave call to get rid given the last 13 games we’ve for 26 points. 

But a necessity. Can you name a decent performance in those 13 games? We’ve scraped those points 

Pep and Evatt both having nightmares... is tiki taka dead👀