jmjhb Posted January 16 Posted January 16 6 minutes ago, royal white said: Wigan v Bolton a few years back was a lot worse then a couple of dozen fans singing a naughty song. Disgusting sectarian violence. Pies v Pasties. Who won? Quote
RONNIE PHILLIPS Posted January 16 Posted January 16 3 hours ago, London Wanderer said: Yes I’m sure they wouldn’t have been banned going to somewhere like Newcastle. If they carry on though they won’t be travelling anywhere. We will just have to agree to disagree then 🙂 I think the issue was both what awaited them & what they would bring. Combined with the other non Muslim pro Palestine lot. If Maccabi didn’t have a significant number of extremists in their midst, I don’t think WMP would have been able to ban them. And absolutely, if there wasn’t a risk from the locals they would have been able to come. The two aren’t exclusive. There can be more than one reason I agree with you on all points as it happens, my only disagreement was the apparant reluctance ( quite possibly misunderstood by myself) to acknowledge how much the local demographic were a factor. This never was a football violence issue, that was just a get out of jail free card for WMP. Quote
London Wanderer Posted January 16 Posted January 16 (edited) 1 hour ago, miamiwhite said: Quite easy when one particular "group" want the complete annihilation of the other. I wonder who 🤔 Yes. Radical Islamists want the complete annihilation of jews. You can guarantee that plenty of Maccabi fans want Arabs annihilated as well. They openly admit to that. Currently there's only one side who's denying Palestinians the right to exist in their own homeland. Edited January 16 by London Wanderer Quote
London Wanderer Posted January 16 Posted January 16 39 minutes ago, RONNIE PHILLIPS said: I agree with you on all points as it happens, my only disagreement was the apparant reluctance ( quite possibly misunderstood by myself) to acknowledge how much the local demographic were a factor. This never was a football violence issue, that was just a get out of jail free card for WMP. 👍 I said from the very beginning that the local demographic were a factor. Quite a significant one. I just believe that elements of the Maccabi fans were equally as significant. The latest Uefa ban is evidence of that for me. And no - I don't think it is a football violence issue. Quite a unique situation to police to be honest, very different from other English footy games. Which is why I'm surprised folk are comparing it to other games. They still should have found a way to do it. Took the easy way out. Quote
RONNIE PHILLIPS Posted January 16 Posted January 16 22 minutes ago, London Wanderer said: 👍 I said from the very beginning that the local demographic were a factor. Quite a significant one. I just believe that elements of the Maccabi fans were equally as significant. The latest Uefa ban is evidence of that for me. And no - I don't think it is a football violence issue. Quite a unique situation to police to be honest, very different from other English footy games. Which is why I'm surprised folk are comparing it to other games. They still should have found a way to do it. Took the easy way out. 👍 Quote
royal white Posted January 16 Author Posted January 16 23 minutes ago, London Wanderer said: 👍 I said from the very beginning that the local demographic were a factor. Quite a significant one. I just believe that elements of the Maccabi fans were equally as significant. The latest Uefa ban is evidence of that for me. And no - I don't think it is a football violence issue. Quite a unique situation to police to be honest, very different from other English footy games. Which is why I'm surprised folk are comparing it to other games. They still should have found a way to do it. Took the easy way out. How is it different than the sectarian violence in Scotland? Quote
miamiwhite Posted January 16 Posted January 16 53 minutes ago, London Wanderer said: Yes. Radical Islamists want the complete annihilation of jews. You can guarantee that plenty of Maccabi fans want Arabs annihilated as well. They openly admit to that. Currently there's only one side who's denying Palestinians the right to exist in their own homeland. Can you please provide proof where they actually said they want the annihilation of Arabs ? Currently, only one lying corrupt police force .......you know the rest Quote
Tonge moor green jacket Posted January 16 Posted January 16 And the PCC welcomes the decision. He should follow suit. Quote
miamiwhite Posted January 16 Posted January 16 1 minute ago, royal white said: And he’s gone! Retires ? He's a cunt and now a useless idiot Quote
miamiwhite Posted January 16 Posted January 16 Just now, Tonge moor green jacket said: And the PCC welcomes the decision. He should follow suit. Cheeky twat blaming politics and media frenzy. Maybe, if the sell out hadn't have lied non stop, then there wouldn't be a political and media frenzy. All down to proximate cause Just wait until the other story re the WMP comes out 😂 Quote
miamiwhite Posted January 16 Posted January 16 5 minutes ago, royal white said: And he’s gone! Not the guy who LW originally backed and fell for his lies 😂 Quote
London Wanderer Posted January 16 Posted January 16 Media and political frenzy indeed Some career that - not perfect but improved his force under difficult circumstances and brought crime down. Awarded The Queen's Police Medal for Distinguished Service. A proper British patriot. He's done far more for his country than the numpty keyboard warriors accusing him of pandering to Islamists. His force will have been active in foiling Islamist attacks. Shame he made such a fuck up just at the end. But still plenty to be proud of. Put your feet up lad & crack a can of ale. ❤️ Quote
London Wanderer Posted January 16 Posted January 16 2 hours ago, miamiwhite said: Can you please provide proof where they actually said they want the annihilation of Arabs ? What do you think people calling for death to Arabs means mate? Quote
royal white Posted January 16 Author Posted January 16 11 minutes ago, London Wanderer said: Media and political frenzy indeed Some career that - not perfect but improved his force under difficult circumstances and brought crime down. Awarded The Queen's Police Medal for Distinguished Service. A proper British patriot. He's done far more for his country than the numpty keyboard warriors accusing him of pandering to Islamists. His force will have been active in foiling Islamist attacks. Shame he made such a fuck up just at the end. But still plenty to be proud of. Put your feet up lad & crack a can of ale. ❤️ Same with Jimmy Savile hey, raised millions for kids, endless charity work, a proper Brit. just fucked it up at the end. Quote
Dimron Posted January 16 Posted January 16 4 minutes ago, London Wanderer said: Media and political frenzy indeed Some career that - not perfect but improved his force under difficult circumstances and brought crime down. Awarded The Queen's Police Medal for Distinguished Service. A proper British patriot. He's done far more for his country than the numpty keyboard warriors accusing him of pandering to Islamists. His force will have been active in foiling Islamist attacks. Shame he made such a fuck up just at the end. But still plenty to be proud of. Put your feet up lad & crack a can of ale. ❤️ I'd have done the same... hundreds of foreigners coming across with the sole intention to kick off with the residents... no brainer in my opinion. He explained his reasoning wrongly to tne politically correct Westminster sect and that was his downfall. If he didn't do what he did we would be now debating why a "muslim hunt" was allowed in our country. Quote
London Wanderer Posted January 16 Posted January 16 4 hours ago, royal white said: Wigan v Bolton a few years back was a lot worse then a couple of dozen fans singing a naughty song. You’ve dug yourself that much into a hole that I don’t think you have a clue what you’re supporting now? You keep saying things like this but then you can't say what it is I've said that's wrong I'm all ears? I was never supporting anyone in the first place bud. 2 hours ago, royal white said: How is it different than the sectarian violence in Scotland? There is no longer a war involving Catholics and Protestants. At the time of the decision the conflict was still going, if not very recently finished. Israeli sporting events were being disrupted all over Europe and it was become difficult to police. When Rangers and Celtic play there usually isn't other local groups looking to turn up and create a scene. It tends to just be fan on fan violence. This game was one off. For me the politics behind this game always felt fairly unique & a challenge to police, because there was so many sides looking to antagonise. I've always sympathised with the challenges this game presented, wasn't a typical UK footy game. They still should have found a way (as I keep saying) 😃 Quote
London Wanderer Posted January 16 Posted January 16 Just now, Dimron said: I'd have done the same... hundreds of foreigners coming across with the sole intention to kick off with the residents... no brainer in my opinion. He explained his reasoning wrongly to tne politically correct Westminster sect and that was his downfall. If he didn't do what he did we would be now debating why a "muslim hunt" was allowed in our country. That's where I think he fucked up Calls of his siding with Islamists are just utter nonsense. He's done more to fight Islamism than most and having a relationship with local Mosques has helped achieve that. Quote
Winchester White Posted January 16 Posted January 16 2 minutes ago, royal white said: Same with Jimmy Savile hey, raised millions for kids, endless charity work, a proper Brit. just fucked it up at the end. At the end? Fucking hell. Quote
London Wanderer Posted January 16 Posted January 16 (edited) 4 minutes ago, royal white said: Same with Jimmy Savile hey, raised millions for kids, endless charity work, a proper Brit. just fucked it up at the end. Yes because this police chief's fuck up should be compared to Jimmy Fucking Saville's noncery 😂😂 That's up there with the best Whataboutery I've seen in a while. But you are the Wways master after all. Brilliant mate Edited January 16 by London Wanderer Quote
kent_white Posted January 16 Posted January 16 2 minutes ago, Dimron said: I'd have done the same... hundreds of foreigners coming across with the sole intention to kick off with the residents... no brainer in my opinion. He explained his reasoning wrongly to tne politically correct Westminster sect and that was his downfall. If he didn't do what he did we would be now debating why a "muslim hunt" was allowed in our country. Pretty much where I was at the time. And still am to be honest. You have to remember how high feelings were running at the time too. It could have been a bloodbath. That being said - in his position - you can't be seen to be deliberately misleading parliament. Or relying on AI. Or just flat out making things up. Quote
royal white Posted January 16 Author Posted January 16 Just now, London Wanderer said: You keep saying things like this but then you can't say what it is I've said that's wrong I'm all ears? I was never supporting anyone in the first place bud. There is no longer a war involving Catholics and Protestants. At the time of the decision the conflict was still going, if not very recently finished. Israeli sporting events were being disrupted all over Europe and it was become difficult to police. When Rangers and Celtic play there usually isn't other local groups looking to turn up and create a scene. It tends to just be fan on fan violence. This game was one off. For me the politics behind this game always felt fairly unique & a challenge to police, because there was so many sides looking to antagonise. I've always sympathised with the challenges this game presented, wasn't a typical UK footy game. They still should have found a way (as I keep saying) 😃 I’ve asked a few times on here what has been your point, you’ve managed to find an argument with those who pretty much called it right from the start, you fell for their lies and made out Amsterdam was invaded in by an Israeli army. It’s now quite clear that was never the case. There was a war for the best part of 40 years. What happened? What happened when Celtic played games in England during the troubles? How did the police manage to police games in Northern Ireland? Quote
royal white Posted January 16 Author Posted January 16 3 minutes ago, Winchester White said: At the end? Fucking hell. Thanks for proving my point 😉 Quote
Dimron Posted January 16 Posted January 16 Just now, London Wanderer said: That's where I think he fucked up Calls of his siding with Islamists are just utter nonsense. He's done more to fight Islamism than most and having a relationship with local Mosques has helped achieve that. He was being a "copper" and doing his job... a big proportion of the people he polices are islamic. The community should employ their police at the end of the day, not politicians or jewish activists Quote
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