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They spent £19m on McBurnie with barely any PL games under his belt (let’s not mention Ramsdale given that we released him either), and Liverpool somehow manage to sell for top dollar all the time. 

Solanke £19m, Ibe £16m, Jerome Sinclair £4m. Pisses me off. 

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6 minutes ago, BWFC_LOVE said:

They spent £19m on McBurnie with barely any PL games under his belt (let’s not mention Ramsdale given that we released him either), and Liverpool somehow manage to sell for top dollar all the time. 

Solanke £19m, Ibe £16m, Jerome Sinclair £4m. Pisses me off. 

You missed off N'Gog & Spearing.

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17 minutes ago, deane koontz said:

A prospect and did alreet at Swansea last season but skiprats seem to know what they're doing when selling. They do have a buyback clause on this one though.

That's an odd one, how does that work?  Sala and Mane get injured in mid Jan.  Liverpool say on last day of transfer window, there's your £23mil, thanks for paying him and giving him games for a few months, we'll use him now.  Sheff U have no time to get a replacement.  I'm sure there's more to it than that, but in what world do you sell something and then just say you want it back?  And presumably the player gets no say in this, even though his kids might be in school in Sheffield by then, etc.  

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20 minutes ago, Johnnyrotten said:

That's an odd one, how does that work?  Sala and Mane get injured in mid Jan.  Liverpool say on last day of transfer window, there's your £23mil, thanks for paying him and giving him games for a few months, we'll use him now.  Sheff U have no time to get a replacement.  I'm sure there's more to it than that, but in what world do you sell something and then just say you want it back?  And presumably the player gets no say in this, even though his kids might be in school in Sheffield by then, etc.  

If Sheff Utd decide to sell, they have to offer him to Liverpool at a pre-agreed price first.

Liverpool can't just call him back at any time.

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1 minute ago, ZiggyStardust said:

If Sheff Utd decide to sell, they have to offer him to Liverpool at a pre-agreed price first.

Liverpool can't just call him back at any time.

OK fair enough, that makes more sense.  Still seems that the player doesnt get a say.  Chelsea, Man U and Barcelona are offering double the wages Liverpool are offering but he has to go back there.  I'm probably miles wide of the mark, I just don't like all these clauses put in deals, like the sell on's.   Either sell 'em or keep 'em, and the buying club has to pay what they both think they are worth.

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Ben Godfrey going to Norwich for £25mil, puts the Brewster fee into perspective if we're talking about a defender that's not won games in the Prem or kept clean sheets.  York receive £2.5mil as part of their sell on.  If Norwich had stopped up and so didnt need to sell, York dont receive a penny.  No doubt other players at Villa or Brighton that did stop wont have moved on and so nobody receives a sell-on, its the luck of the draw.  The original fees should be fairer for me.

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7 hours ago, Johnnyrotten said:

That's an odd one, how does that work?  Sala and Mane get injured in mid Jan.  Liverpool say on last day of transfer window, there's your £23mil, thanks for paying him and giving him games for a few months, we'll use him now.  Sheff U have no time to get a replacement.  I'm sure there's more to it than that, but in what world do you sell something and then just say you want it back?  And presumably the player gets no say in this, even though his kids might be in school in Sheffield by then, etc.  

A 20 year-old with kids at school?

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Talking about the principle.  Next week it might be a 25 year old that's sold with a buy back clause.  Or it might be 4 years from now before Liverpool decide they want him back after he's scored 80 Prem goals for Sheff U.  Just making the point that the player doesnt appear to have a say in it, just seems an odd clause.

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2 hours ago, Johnnyrotten said:

Talking about the principle.  Next week it might be a 25 year old that's sold with a buy back clause.  Or it might be 4 years from now before Liverpool decide they want him back after he's scored 80 Prem goals for Sheff U.  Just making the point that the player doesnt appear to have a say in it, just seems an odd clause.

A buy back clause simply means that Liverpool have first refusal if they decide to sell.. Liverpool do not have any say when or if they sell him on.

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6 hours ago, Ros Coe said:

A buy back clause simply means that Liverpool have first refusal if they decide to sell.. Liverpool do not have any say when or if they sell him on.

Is that the same for the ones abroad? For example Real Madrid seem to do it a lot then sell the returning player quickly. I think Morata was an example of this.

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On 04/10/2020 at 13:51, Pablo said:

Sheff United spend loads, spent more than most in the prem last season....and still played the plucky skint card every week.

Also pretty sure a chunk of that fee goes to Chelsea, as did the solanke fee.

According to this they spent 9th in terms of net spend but 13th overall because they didn't sell anyone

https://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/1163679/Premier-League-table-net-transfer-spend-Aston-Villa-Man-Utd-Liverpool

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12 hours ago, ZicoKelly said:

According to this they spent 9th in terms of net spend but 13th overall because they didn't sell anyone

https://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/1163679/Premier-League-table-net-transfer-spend-Aston-Villa-Man-Utd-Liverpool

 

19/20 they spent £65 million

20/21 they have spent £56 million

That pits them over £100 million net spend since they come to the prem.

Thats big money....they have spent more than us!!!

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27 minutes ago, Pablo said:

 

19/20 they spent £65 million

20/21 they have spent £56 million

That pits them over £100 million net spend since they come to the prem.

Thats big money....they have spent more than us!!!

according to this site

https://www.transfermarkt.com/everton-fc/transfers/verein/29/plus/0?saison_id=2019&pos=&detailpos=&w_s=

over last two season - they spent 134M (euros), you spent 195 

ok, you received about £80M in that time, but there's is largely a championship / league two squad with no players to sell on

and you spent £40M on Siggurdson, £35 Richarlison, £30 Lukaku etc

they aren't in the same league when he comes to spending (and probably won't be in the same league next season)

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6 minutes ago, ZicoKelly said:

according to this site

https://www.transfermarkt.com/everton-fc/transfers/verein/29/plus/0?saison_id=2019&pos=&detailpos=&w_s=

over last two season - they spent 134M (euros), you spent 195 

ok, you received about £80M in that time, but there's is largely a championship / league two squad with no players to sell on

and you spent £40M on Siggurdson, £35 Richarlison, £30 Lukaku etc

they aren't in the same league when he comes to spending (and probably won't be in the same league next season)

 

Its all abot net spend, and the fact is. They spent more than us.

But yes, they are in a different league in terms of what they can spend on wages etc.

Just bothers me this card they play about not spending much....and us being "big spending". WHen the actual numbers tell a very different story.

 

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Just now, Pablo said:

 

Its all abot net spend, and the fact is. They spent more than us.

 

aye, but you've spent far more compiling a squad that has sell on value

they still have players in their starting XI from League Two

and according to that transfer market site, this summer, your net spend is around £70M and theirs is £62M

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