Whitestar Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 Could start with having a half decent PA system and play some angry intimidating sounds to pump the crowd up a bit eh?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meanderson93 Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 7 minutes ago, Traf said: I'd be tempted into a change in formation, but it's not going to happen. 4-3-2-1, perhaps? Coleman Jones Toal Santos Iredale Dempsey Sheehan ThomasonĀ Bangaverage Collins Jerome I think a slight change is pretty much essential given the lack of proper striker options but he won't deviate from the 3 (or 5 however you see it) at the back, regardless of if he should or not.Ā With that in mind, I wouldn't mind seeing something like: Coleman Toal, Santos, Iredale Jones, Sheehan, Thomason, Ashworth Williams, Collins Bod More of a 3-4-2-1, which is what we should have been doing when Dapo was here, and having Collins and Randell Williams as the wide/inside forwards that both can drop deep to collect a ball and run at defenders or can get wide and get balls in or run beyond Bod when he drops in as he is capable on the ball himself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Zico Posted March 12 Moderators Share Posted March 12 23 minutes ago, burnden said: Ā 22 minutes ago, Traf said: Bumper crowd? There'll be less than 14,000 on. already getting the excuses in if you turn up and give your all, we will but you won't which is why we won't Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Zico Posted March 12 Moderators Share Posted March 12 just realised, I'm off to Australia for 3 weeks at end of the month so this is (hopefully) my last game of the season might be able to make Vale but get back that day so unlikely Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter desperado Posted March 12 Site Supporter Share Posted March 12 Negatives out of the way first. And unusually for me, I have a few.Ā - That 2nd half performance at Exeter was worrying against a side 16th in L1, I really hope we can bounce back from that, but Iām not convinced. - The injuries are shocking and again, despite the depth we have, I feel we are missing too many key players.Ā - And finally, no amount of tub thumping from Evatt and the happy clappers (š¤£) can convince me that the atmosphere tonight can be bouncing. Donāt get me wrong, Iāll do my bit as always.Ā - This is the prem equivalent of City at home to Brighton on a wet Tuesday night. - We, quite rightly, are expected to win tonight. Games with expectancy like this donāt produce raucous nights. - I canāt get overly excited about a game we are expected to, and must win. Bloody hell canāt believe my own words reading back! But itās honestly how I feel. However a win tonight and it sets Derby and Stevenage up nicely.Ā - I still think this squad is good enough for automatic. - Cut the individual errors out, we score enough goals. - Win tonight, pick up some points at Derby/Stevenage, then Evatt will get his big atmosphere on a Saturday against Portsmouth - I still maintain thereās some special moments to come. Need to win tonight to make sure those can happen.Ā Ā Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boltonboris Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 The only change in shape I see tonight is Collins operating a little deeper, like CMG was pre-injury. Defensively, to cap their deep playmaker - Would that be Brannagan? Not seen much of him, but note he's considered one of the best in the league - And to give him a little more freedom to roam and link up with the wing-backs Personnel-wise, I think we're currently better geared up for a 4-3-3 / 4-2-3-1, but not with only 1 day's prep time. That would be suicidal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boltonboris Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 1 minute ago, desperado said: Negatives out of the way first. And unusually for me, I have a few.Ā - That 2nd half performance at Exeter was worrying against a side 16th in L1, I really hope we can bounce back from that, but Iām not convinced. - The injuries are shocking and again, despite the depth we have, I feel we are missing too many key players.Ā - And finally, no amount of tub thumping from Evatt and the happy clappers (š¤£) can convince me that the atmosphere tonight can be bouncing. Donāt get me wrong, Iāll do my bit as always.Ā - This is the prem equivalent of City at home to Brighton on a wet Tuesday night. - We, quite rightly, are expected to win tonight. Games with expectancy like this donāt produce raucous nights. - I canāt get overly excited about a game we are expected to, and must win. Bloody hell canāt believe my own words reading back! But itās honestly how I feel. However a win tonight and it sets Derby and Stevenage up nicely.Ā - I still think this squad is good enough for automatic. - Cut the individual errors out, we score enough goals. - Win tonight, pick up some points at Derby/Stevenage, then Evatt will get his big atmosphere on a Saturday against Portsmouth - I still maintain thereās some special moments to come. Need to win tonight to make sure those can happen.Ā Ā You're right about the atmosphere. It will be shit. I hope it isn't, but it will be.Ā I think the game will ebb and flow and there'll be goals in it. Our issue will be, will our forwards be more clinical than theirs.Ā Both teams will want possession and won't be in any rush to turn it over unnecessarily, so it could start cagily, before becoming transitional as teams spot gaps and up the intensity. The wing backs and Collins/Bang Average link-up will be crucial tonightĀ Really can't call this either way Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traf Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 29 minutes ago, Zico said: just realised, I'm off to Australia for 3 weeks at end of the month so this is (hopefully) my last game of the season might be able to make Vale but get back that day so unlikely Safe trip, mate (I could have booked that, you know šĀ ) Won't be your last game : see you in the play-offs 21 minutes ago, boltonboris said: Personnel-wise, I think we're currently better geared up for a 4-3-3 / 4-2-3-1, but not with only 1 day's prep time. That would be suicidal I agree, that with who's left fit, a change in system could be the answer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bolton va va Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 Coleman & Bod are fine as 3rd division reserves/stand ins but both starting weakens us at both ends, so I can't see us winning the next 2.......our hope has to be that others drop points & that we've get Baxter & Dion back after the break. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomski Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 All cup finals now. Not really interested in atmosphere or numbers but from my point of view Iām well up for this game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frank_spencer Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 Collins bod Tomo Bangaverage Sheehan Randy Toal Rico Jones JDC Coleman More than good enough to win Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frank_spencer Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 Just now, frank_spencer said: Collins bod Tomo Bangaverage Sheehan Randy Toal Rico Jones JDC Coleman More than good enough to win When did Paris get the auto name change? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUREADY2ROLL Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 9 minutes ago, frank_spencer said: Collins bod Tomo Bangaverage Sheehan Randy Toal Rico Jones JDC Coleman More than good enough to win Like that selectionĀ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Zico Posted March 12 Moderators Share Posted March 12 10 minutes ago, frank_spencer said: Collins bod Tomo Bangaverage Sheehan Randy Toal Rico Jones JDC Coleman More than good enough to win I'd have Ashworth in for Wiliams but still, happy enough with Wiliams and plenty good enough definitely need to stick with Paris for his goal threat as he's now the fittest top goal scorer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnyrotten Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 2 hours ago, Traf said: Bumper crowd? There'll be less than 14,000 on. I think they mean "bumper number of folk watching at homepub with their STs gathering dust till the next Saturday match". Anyway it doesn't matter whether there's 10k or 20k there, the atmosphere isn't down to numbers its how those there react to the team and vice versa. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnyrotten Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 1 hour ago, desperado said: Negatives out of the way first. And unusually for me, I have a few.Ā - That 2nd half performance at Exeter was worrying against a side 16th in L1, I really hope we can bounce back from that, but Iām not convinced. - The injuries are shocking and again, despite the depth we have, I feel we are missing too many key players.Ā - And finally, no amount of tub thumping from Evatt and the happy clappers (š¤£) can convince me that the atmosphere tonight can be bouncing. Donāt get me wrong, Iāll do my bit as always.Ā - This is the prem equivalent of City at home to Brighton on a wet Tuesday night. - We, quite rightly, are expected to win tonight. Games with expectancy like this donāt produce raucous nights. - I canāt get overly excited about a game we are expected to, and must win. Bloody hell canāt believe my own words reading back! But itās honestly how I feel. However a win tonight and it sets Derby and Stevenage up nicely.Ā - I still think this squad is good enough for automatic. - Cut the individual errors out, we score enough goals. - Win tonight, pick up some points at Derby/Stevenage, then Evatt will get his big atmosphere on a Saturday against Portsmouth - I still maintain thereās some special moments to come. Need to win tonight to make sure those can happen.Ā Ā Good balanced post. You're right, we've been going to night matches against teams below us in the table for long enough to know what the atmosphere will be like.Ā But as you say, its the same everywhere, nothing looks as flat on TV as City v anyone but the big 6 on a Tuesday.Ā And if we score early, it makes the atmosphere even more flat as it becomes "so we've won that one, onto Saturday".Ā Ā Some of the best atmospheres are when we are losing and we make a fist ofĀ - Charlton was good - but we got most of our "big atmosphere" games out of the way early in the season - 1st game of season, local derbies, Derby, Carlisle; we are on a run of very flat games and its just the reality of this division.Ā Ā As you say get through this one and hopefully we might have some more memorable home games to come. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noxid Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 Really want to see Dempsey back in from the start as we look lightweight through the middle. He's also got a good shot and always looking for that chance on the edge of the box. With our shortage of strikers think we need any extra attacking edge we can get.Ā Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted March 12 Site Supporter Share Posted March 12 This atmosphere lark. We've been here before. If everyone saying it will be shit makes lots of noise then it won't be. Conversely, if everyone site on their hands looking at others, then everyone is complicit in that lack of atmosphere.Ā Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnyrotten Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 1 hour ago, bolton va va said: Coleman & Bod are fine as 3rd division reserves/stand ins but both starting weakens us at both ends, so I can't see us winning the next 2.......our hope has to be that others drop points & that we've get Baxter & Dion back after the break. I get that Bod isn't pulling up trees, but to say he weakens us isn't how I see it.Ā Charles and Vic strengthen us if they score - no argument - and when not scoring (most games), they both lose possession too easily and don't create much for others, compared to Bod and Collins.Ā We also lose the option to knock it long and win a flick on header. We do miss Charles' waspish endeavour/fight - very different to Bod & especially Collins in that respect.Ā We need him back in the squad asap to give us an option and improve our goal threat clearly. If any of the 4 are off form it makes little difference, its poor and yes Bod has bad games, but its the same for all, who knows who's going to be on form from one game to the next?Ā Fingers crossed they do the business this week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnyrotten Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 1 hour ago, Zico said: I'd have Ashworth in for Wiliams but still, happy enough with Wiliams and plenty good enough definitely need to stick with Paris for his goal threat as he's now the fittest top goal scorer Yes he's fit as well as decent!Ā Hopefully you haven't tempted fate, anyone that can score a goal hasn't been staying fit long. But I agree - one of first names on teamsheet for me, anyone that is comfortable getting into a scoring position and taking it with composure, is in.Ā Our goal threat is reduced when he's not on the pitch, creates as well as scores.Ā Ā Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnyrotten Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 39 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: This atmosphere lark. We've been here before. If everyone saying it will be shit makes lots of noise then it won't be. Conversely, if everyone site on their hands looking at others, then everyone is complicit in that lack of atmosphere.Ā I'd be surprised if anyone on here actually starts a chant.Ā I'll join in much of the time but you can normally feel a quietness, or an atmosphere, even before entering the turnstyle, its a strange thing, its either present or it isn't.Ā I'll get behind the team as always but 1 or 2 blokes standing up in each block of ESL every now and again isn't atmosphere - that's mainly provided (or not) by crazy corner.Ā Let's not beat ourselves up about it though, it will probably be the same, or worse, at every EFL game tonight with possible exception of Pompey. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted March 12 Site Supporter Share Posted March 12 1 hour ago, Johnnyrotten said: I'd be surprised if anyone on here actually starts a chant.Ā I'll join in much of the time but you can normally feel a quietness, or an atmosphere, even before entering the turnstyle, its a strange thing, its either present or it isn't.Ā I'll get behind the team as always but 1 or 2 blokes standing up in each block of ESL every now and again isn't atmosphere - that's mainly provided (or not) by crazy corner.Ā Let's not beat ourselves up about it though, it will probably be the same, or worse, at every EFL game tonight with possible exception of Pompey. Thing is, it's spoken about on here as a bit of a criticism of fans in the ground. When the issue applies equally across the board. You're correct- there is no need to beat ourselves up over it, but some do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frank_spencer Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 It's something boltonians are exceptional at complaining about something but doing bugger all to fix it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ani Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 Far too much thought goes into the game. Turn up and do your jobs. Oxford no mugs but not in the greatest form. Ā Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter victor meldrew Posted March 12 Site Supporter Share Posted March 12 Las Vegas whites are preparingĀ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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