gonzo Posted March 22 Author Share Posted March 22 2 minutes ago, L/H White said: players choose money over history, it's not how it used to be Barca are a legacy club mate. An absolute juggernaut. Bigger than your boys. Not by much like but there's only United and Real above them. I'd have em level pegging with United tbh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L/H White Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 3 minutes ago, gonzo said: Barca are a legacy club mate. An absolute juggernaut. Bigger than your boys. Not by much like but there's only United and Real above them. I'd have em level pegging with United tbh. can't agree, we'll move on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pablo Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 (edited) 15 hours ago, gonzo said: Considering where we've been and where we are I reckon our numbers in past 10 years stack up to most. Better numbers than latter stages of Prem. Reckon folk will view us as pretty decent. Boltons historic average attendance is 17k....which does lean to you have many years of some god-awfull crowds that most will ignore. But, you are currently at what ?? Aorund 20k average for this season while playing in the 3rd division, and selling out away games. I would say thats very very good support, that only a certain amount of clubs would do. Edited March 22 by Pablo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pablo Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 1 hour ago, Zico said: Real Madrid Man Utd Barcelona Liverpool AC Milan Juventus Bayern Munich Not necessarily in that order, but thems the biggest Anyone else? Inter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted March 22 Site Supporter Share Posted March 22 1 hour ago, Zico said: Real Madrid Man Utd Barcelona Liverpool AC Milan Juventus Bayern Munich Not necessarily in that order, but thems the biggest Anyone else? If you're basing it on crowds, then maybe Benfica- their attendances this season are typically in the high 50k. Also won two European cups- one fewer than Utd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underpants Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 (edited) . Edited March 22 by Underpants Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underpants Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 1 hour ago, L/H White said: players choose money over history, it's not how it used to be Indeed. Ian Rush couldn't get on a plane to Juventus quick enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Zico Posted March 22 Moderators Share Posted March 22 1 hour ago, Pablo said: Inter. hard to disagree, won the same number of titles as AC (19), but "only" 3 european cups compared to AC's 7 but still 1 more than Juventus who've won it twice, however, they've won the title 36 times still inclined to put them in tier 2 along with Ajax and Benfica not sure where to put City and PSG, tier 2 or 3, not sure they have the pedigree for tier 2 alongside the Ajax's etc, but definitely not in the top tier Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pablo Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 5 minutes ago, Zico said: hard to disagree, won the same number of titles as AC (19), but "only" 3 european cups compared to AC's 7 but still 1 more than Juventus who've won it twice, however, they've won the title 36 times still inclined to put them in tier 2 along with Ajax and Benfica not sure where to put City and PSG, tier 2 or 3, not sure they have the pedigree for tier 2 alongside the Ajax's etc, but definitely not in the top tier Ye, its a tough one and close on some criteria, then not on others. Many factors really. Getting all "geeky", points could be awarded for key criteria headers : euro trophies, domestic trophies, historic crowds, years in top league, highest finishes, cup wins, cup finals, consecutive years in ellite leagues, firsts (founder members etc), records. That would help narrow down a more refined list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frank_spencer Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 28 minutes ago, Pablo said: Ye, its a tough one and close on some criteria, then not on others. Many factors really. Getting all "geeky", points could be awarded for key criteria headers : euro trophies, domestic trophies, historic crowds, years in top league, highest finishes, cup wins, cup finals, consecutive years in ellite leagues, firsts (founder members etc), records. That would help narrow down a more refined list. The way that appears on my phone it looks like headers was one of you key criteria Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomski Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 53 minutes ago, Zico said: hard to disagree, won the same number of titles as AC (19), but "only" 3 european cups compared to AC's 7 but still 1 more than Juventus who've won it twice, however, they've won the title 36 times still inclined to put them in tier 2 along with Ajax and Benfica not sure where to put City and PSG, tier 2 or 3, not sure they have the pedigree for tier 2 alongside the Ajax's etc, but definitely not in the top tier You are gonna be in trouble with @DazBob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radcliffe white Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 Bit of perspective derby have sold 2100 tickets for Portsmouth on a Tuesday live on sky we wouldn’t get near that, if we go up our support will seem very average compared to others some big hitters in championship Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lostock Whites Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 14 minutes ago, radcliffe white said: Bit of perspective derby have sold 2100 tickets for Portsmouth on a Tuesday live on sky we wouldn’t get near that, if we go up our support will seem very average compared to others some big hitters in championship It's an extra 2 hour round trip for us compared to Derby. Also it's later in the season and a bigger game than it was for us in December. They only brought 2,800 to us this season, we brought 3,000 to them. Our support is extremely good for this level and would still be good in the Championship regardless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radcliffe white Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 (edited) 28 minutes ago, Lostock Whites said: It's an extra 2 hour round trip for us compared to Derby. Also it's later in the season and a bigger game than it was for us in December. They only brought 2,800 to us this season, we brought 3,000 to them. Our support is extremely good for this level and would still be good in the Championship regardless. Charged them £30 this time And the 5k the year before on tv yet again we could only dream of that it would be mid range in the championship especially when you throw in live tv picks & high prices Edited March 22 by radcliffe white Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo Posted March 22 Author Share Posted March 22 Never had Derby down as good travellers tbh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter victor meldrew Posted March 22 Site Supporter Share Posted March 22 22 minutes ago, gonzo said: Never had Derby down as good travellers tbh Didn’t they bring about 300 in their record breaking season 07/08 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo Posted March 22 Author Share Posted March 22 4 hours ago, radcliffe white said: Bit of perspective derby have sold 2100 tickets for Portsmouth on a Tuesday live on sky we wouldn’t get near that, if we go up our support will seem very average compared to others some big hitters in championship I reckon we'd sell that easy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWFC_LOVE Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 4 hours ago, radcliffe white said: Bit of perspective derby have sold 2100 tickets for Portsmouth on a Tuesday live on sky we wouldn’t get near that, if we go up our support will seem very average compared to others some big hitters in championship If we were in Derby’s position we would undoubtedly sell that out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bolty58 Posted March 22 Members Share Posted March 22 10 hours ago, Underpants said: Indeed. Ian Rush couldn't get on a plane to Juventus quick enough. ....or John Charles the same trip way before Rush. Real Madrid and Inter assembled teams of 'galactico's' in the 50's. Money talked then too - they came from everywhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounts Kipper Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 5 hours ago, radcliffe white said: Bit of perspective derby have sold 2100 tickets for Portsmouth on a Tuesday live on sky we wouldn’t get near that, if we go up our support will seem very average compared to others some big hitters in championship I don’t think Derby support is all that, on many occasions they’ve brought poor support when they’ve played us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underpants Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 9 minutes ago, bolty58 said: ....or John Charles the same trip way before Rush. Real Madrid and Inter assembled teams of 'galactico's' in the 50's. Money talked then too - they came from everywhere. Not forgetting that Jimmy Greaves followed the lira too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounts Kipper Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 1 hour ago, victor meldrew said: Didn’t they bring about 300 in their record breaking season 07/08 Exactly they ain’t all that… neither are Pompey. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomski Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 We are bigger than all of em. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bolty58 Posted March 22 Members Share Posted March 22 6 minutes ago, tomski said: We are bigger than all of em. Is the correct attitude. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomski Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 Just now, bolty58 said: Is the correct attitude. They are the club I’d travel furthest to watch. Logic says they’d win Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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