bwfc4ife Posted May 5, 2025 Posted May 5, 2025 The funny thing is that Dempsey couldn’t get a sniff second half of last year. Bench fodder. Now our best attacking mid. We need pace on either wing with a big man with pace who can win a header and hold it up. Another solid centre half, a decent left back and another good quality centre mid and we wouldn’t be far away. Quote
TrickyTrotter Posted May 5, 2025 Posted May 5, 2025 Luton have just had a double relegation and are in freefall. No evidence that they will suddenly be competing at the top end of L1. They will bottom out somewhere but who knows when. Half the squad are still probably on Prem wages with a big wage bill to follow on crowds of 10k and parachute running out. They need to get shot of their whole squad and start again. Quote
Zico Posted May 5, 2025 Posted May 5, 2025 2 hours ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said: Stockport I read the other day that in his 10 years or so as a manager at 4 different clubs Challinor has always finished in a play off spot or automatic spot Quote
Popular Post ianofcleveleys Posted May 5, 2025 Popular Post Posted May 5, 2025 34 minutes ago, Zico said: I read the other day that in his 10 years or so as a manager at 4 different clubs Challinor has always finished in a play off spot or automatic spot That's right. Stockport are outstandingly well recruited, prepared and coached, in training and on matchdays. No stand out talents, no mavericks or ballers, just strong, fit, fast and decent players, who as a unit are really effective Quote
Johnnyrotten Posted May 5, 2025 Posted May 5, 2025 1 hour ago, TrickyTrotter said: Luton have just had a double relegation and are in freefall. No evidence that they will suddenly be competing at the top end of L1. They will bottom out somewhere but who knows when. Half the squad are still probably on Prem wages with a big wage bill to follow on crowds of 10k and parachute running out. They need to get shot of their whole squad and start again. They've got a half decent manager (had Wycombe top 2), before Saturday they'd improved enough to have only lost 1 in 10 championship games, and presumably they'll have money floating around either from sales or parachute payments, or both. No guarantees, but they'll be favourites assuming no other club does a Birmingham or Wrexham and gets rich backers. Quote
Greg_BWFC Posted May 5, 2025 Posted May 5, 2025 10 minutes ago, ianofcleveleys said: That's right. Stockport are outstandingly well recruited, prepared and coached, in training and on matchdays. No stand out talents, no mavericks or ballers, just strong, fit, fast and decent players, who as a unit are really effective Yeah, but are they "Championship ready " 😒 Quote
ianofcleveleys Posted May 5, 2025 Posted May 5, 2025 1 hour ago, Greg_BWFC said: Yeah, but are they "Championship ready " 😒 More so than our lot, who were just 'oven ready' 🤣 Quote
Lostock Whites Posted May 5, 2025 Author Posted May 5, 2025 (edited) I just had a look at the relegated Championship sides in the recent years . So in the past 4 seasons since 20/21 out of 12 clubs, only Birmingham got promoted straight back out of League 1 Wycombe, Rotherham, Sheff Wednesday, Peterborough, Derby, Barnsley, Reading, Blackpool, Wigan, Huddersfield & Rotherham again, all either took 2 seasons at least or have been here since they got relegated. Doesn't guarantee anything next season, but the data implies that most likely most if not all of Plymouth, Cardiff & Luton won't be coming straight back up next year. Usually takes clubs a few seasons to come back if they do at all. Edited May 5, 2025 by Lostock Whites Quote
Johnnyrotten Posted May 6, 2025 Posted May 6, 2025 13 hours ago, Greg_BWFC said: Yeah, but are they "Championship ready " 😒 Stockport just don't have the vision and long term strategy that IE had do they? They'll be sorry. Quote
Johnnyrotten Posted May 6, 2025 Posted May 6, 2025 11 hours ago, Lostock Whites said: I just had a look at the relegated Championship sides in the recent years . So in the past 4 seasons since 20/21 out of 12 clubs, only Birmingham got promoted straight back out of League 1 Wycombe, Rotherham, Sheff Wednesday, Peterborough, Derby, Barnsley, Reading, Blackpool, Wigan, Huddersfield & Rotherham again, all either took 2 seasons at least or have been here since they got relegated. Doesn't guarantee anything next season, but the data implies that most likely most if not all of Plymouth, Cardiff & Luton won't be coming straight back up next year. Usually takes clubs a few seasons to come back if they do at all. Good info. Certainly no guarantees anyone gets promoted when its only top 2, things happen like managers leaving or just being unlucky with injuries (or is that just us?). As much as Huddersfield and Rotherham were surprisingly bad this season, I'd still be amazed if the relegated sides don't get top 6 or very close to it. All 3 sides that went down in 2021 (Rotherham, Sheff Wed, Wycombe) got at least in the play offs; 2 out of 3 the following season (Barnsley and Posh; Derby finished 7th by 1 point). Then we had the basket cases of Reading, Blackpool and Wigan coming down. Anyway, as I've said before its about maximising our own potential and playing as an organised unit who look like they have a plan and are hard to beat, what the other teams do is out of our control. Quote
Greg_BWFC Posted May 6, 2025 Posted May 6, 2025 1 hour ago, Johnnyrotten said: Good info. Certainly no guarantees anyone gets promoted when its only top 2, things happen like managers leaving or just being unlucky with injuries (or is that just us?). As much as Huddersfield and Rotherham were surprisingly bad this season, I'd still be amazed if the relegated sides don't get top 6 or very close to it. All 3 sides that went down in 2021 (Rotherham, Sheff Wed, Wycombe) got at least in the play offs; 2 out of 3 the following season (Barnsley and Posh; Derby finished 7th by 1 point). Then we had the basket cases of Reading, Blackpool and Wigan coming down. Anyway, as I've said before its about maximising our own potential and playing as an organised unit who look like they have a plan and are hard to beat, what the other teams do is out of our control. Think it'll be a while before we get a chance as good as last year. Monumental failure that. Quote
ZiggyStardust Posted May 7, 2025 Posted May 7, 2025 On 05/05/2025 at 20:08, Zico said: I read the other day that in his 10 years or so as a manager at 4 different clubs Challinor has always finished in a play off spot or automatic spot Quote
little whitt Posted May 20, 2025 Posted May 20, 2025 2 minutes ago, burnden said: Both Wank and Mid Week Quote
Leyther_Matt Posted May 20, 2025 Posted May 20, 2025 (edited) When you see Shrewsbury away, then see it’s a Tuesday Edited May 20, 2025 by Leyther_Matt Quote
ianofcleveleys Posted May 20, 2025 Posted May 20, 2025 I coach up in Barrow on a Tuesday evening so a quick dart round from the track and in for this one Quote
Traf Posted May 20, 2025 Posted May 20, 2025 5 hours ago, ianofcleveleys said: I coach up in Barrow on a Tuesday evening so a quick dart round from the track and in for this one I still wouldn't go. Quote
tomski Posted May 21, 2025 Posted May 21, 2025 1 minute ago, Leyther_Matt said: Hibs v Bolton on July 19th, apparently That’ll make a few wet on here. I’ve never been to Scotland and this would be the perfect reason to go but, I’m out 😂 Enjoy as I know it will be a good one for you!!! Quote
ianofcleveleys Posted May 21, 2025 Posted May 21, 2025 1 hour ago, Leyther_Matt said: Hibs v Bolton on July 19th, apparently Would certainly fancy that, always wanted to see a game at Easter Rd, even a friendly Quote
Zico Posted May 21, 2025 Posted May 21, 2025 3 hours ago, Leyther_Matt said: Hibs v Bolton on July 19th, apparently my brother lives in Edinburgh it would be rude not to so I think I'll be rude and pass unless I can somehow turn it into a family visit and take the other half and kids to Edinburgh for a few days either side but that will be expensive for a friendly I think I'll pass Quote
Duck Egg Posted May 21, 2025 Posted May 21, 2025 I have much more of an affinity with Hearts. Berry, Foster and a night out with several of their lot last time we were up there for a pre season tour. We're in Edinburgh for the fringe just a month later so can't justify the additional expense with an extra journey up. Quote
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