Zog1 Posted January 13 Posted January 13 13 minutes ago, BOWTUN BAKED said: Calling for managers head after a year! 🙄😂 No surprise it comes from the armchair supporters either! Vs the supporters who happy clapped Ian Evatt for 4 years, while our club was spinning its tyres in league 1 going nowhere, with an out of control manager, spending millions on his own ego and giving jobs to all his mates. Quote
Winchester White Posted January 13 Posted January 13 11 minutes ago, Zog1 said: Vs the supporters who happy clapped Ian Evatt for 4 years, while our club was spinning its tyres in league 1 going nowhere, with an out of control manager, spending millions on his own ego and giving jobs to all his mates. Surely giving SS less than a year and one transfer window is just as nuts as giving IE so long and especially backing him in that last window? Quote
onefinfrandsen Posted January 13 Posted January 13 17 minutes ago, Zog1 said: Vs the supporters who happy clapped Ian Evatt for 4 years, while our club was spinning its tyres in league 1 going nowhere, with an out of control manager, spending millions on his own ego and giving jobs to all his mates. To be fair it was only the last 6 months when it went pear shaped, and we were only 90 minutes from the championship. Quote
Zog1 Posted January 13 Posted January 13 Just now, onefinfrandsen said: To be fair it was only the last 6 months when it went pear shaped, and we were only 90 minutes from the championship. NO it wasn't and we were NEVER going up under him, because the good teams we super rarely won against were the same teams we were facing in the play offs, it was never going to happen. Quote
onefinfrandsen Posted January 13 Posted January 13 4 minutes ago, Zog1 said: NO it wasn't and we were NEVER going up under him, because the good teams we super rarely won against were the same teams we were facing in the play offs, it was never going to happen. We had just beat Barnsley over 2 legs and a few weeks earlier battered Oxford, which teams are you referring to. Quote
Whitesince63 Posted January 13 Posted January 13 24 minutes ago, onefinfrandsen said: We had just beat Barnsley over 2 legs and a few weeks earlier battered Oxford, which teams are you referring to. Does it matter? We hadn’t gone up in five attempts under Evatt and things were going backwards. I don’t think anyone can seriously call for Schueys head yet, we’re still in a play off position for goodness sake and are still lumbered with half the dross Evatt recruited. Let’s give Schuey a chance and I still believe the season will be successful for us come May even if it has to be the play offs. Quote
frank_spencer Posted January 13 Posted January 13 10 minutes ago, Whitesince63 said: Does it matter? We hadn’t gone up in five attempts under Evatt and things were going backwards. I don’t think anyone can seriously call for Schueys head yet, we’re still in a play off position for goodness sake and are still lumbered with half the dross Evatt recruited. Let’s give Schuey a chance and I still believe the season will be successful for us come May even if it has to be the play offs. Not sacking him after the playoffs failure was (with the benefit of hindsight) the point Sharon and the board went wrong, along with leaving it so late in Jan to do the inevitable. As long as we're in with a realistic shot at promotion SS is going nowhere. Quote
Tonge moor green jacket Posted January 13 Posted January 13 We're not left with that many Evatt players that SS didn't want are we? Cogley was fairly regular, two centre halves are, as is Sheehan. He wouldn't play them if he didn't want to. Quote
Winchester White Posted January 13 Posted January 13 1 minute ago, frank_spencer said: Not sacking him after the playoffs failure was (with the benefit of hindsight) the point Sharon and the board went wrong, along with leaving it so late in Jan to do the inevitable. As long as we're in with a realistic shot at promotion SS is going nowhere. Nor should he. It might not work out but potting a manager in under 12 months and one window is mental talk. Quote
frank_spencer Posted January 13 Posted January 13 1 minute ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: We're not left with that many Evatt players that SS didn't want are we? Cogley was fairly regular, two centre halves are, as is Sheehan. He wouldn't play them if he didn't want to. McAtee and Randall are the obvious 2 both taking decent wages for no real output. Will have an impact on the budget. Quote
Tonge moor green jacket Posted January 13 Posted January 13 (edited) 6 minutes ago, frank_spencer said: McAtee and Randall are the obvious 2 both taking decent wages for no real output. Will have an impact on the budget. 2 players. Not loads as was suggested. Both players have been given games, even if not regular. Again, if they weren't wanted, I'm sure he would have got rid, even if on loan. Randall keels getting game time too, and SS has publicly stated that he reckons he's a good player. Guess we'll see what happens this month, but I don't buy this line that SS is stuck with Evatt dross. The team is largely his, and he chooses who plays. Does that make all his signings dross too, as we don't seem significantly better off in terms of position, results etc. Edited January 13 by Tonge moor green jacket Quote
frank_spencer Posted January 13 Posted January 13 3 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: 2 players. Not loads as was suggested. Both players have been given games, even if not regular. Again, if they weren't wanted, I'm sure he would have got rid, even if on loan. Randall keels getting game time too, and SS has publicly stated that he reckons he's a good player. Guess we'll see what happens this month, but I don't buy this line that SS is stuck with Evatt dross. The team is largely his, and he chooses who plays. Does that make all his signings dross too, as we don't seem significantly better off in terms of position, results etc. It was more the only players I can think of as 'Evatt dross' are those 2. The rest of what's left from IEs time are either regulars or gone. Quote
Tonge moor green jacket Posted January 13 Posted January 13 21 minutes ago, frank_spencer said: It was more the only players I can think of as 'Evatt dross' are those 2. The rest of what's left from IEs time are either regulars or gone. Aye. W63 still using it though, not you. I'm not yet in the get rid of SS camp, but we are showing similar traits to last season after he came. Big highs and big lows. Something isn't right, and he has to sort it, and soon. Quote
JOGLER Posted January 13 Posted January 13 1 hour ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: We're not left with that many Evatt players that SS didn't want are we? Cogley was fairly regular, two centre halves are, as is Sheehan. He wouldn't play them if he didn't want to. And they are the reason we continue to tread water; they appear to be immune to being dropped or sold (🙏). Quote
Tonge moor green jacket Posted January 13 Posted January 13 26 minutes ago, JOGLER said: And they are the reason we continue to tread water; they appear to be immune to being dropped or sold (🙏). SS doesn't seem to think so. Which, again, is on him. Quote
London Wanderer Posted January 13 Posted January 13 3 hours ago, Winchester White said: Surely giving SS less than a year and one transfer window is just as nuts as giving IE so long and especially backing him in that last window? Depends if the board want a chance of promotion this season or would rather play the long game. I’m hopeful he’ll try a new system and things will improve. But if they don’t & we’re drifting away from the playoffs, I think the board should take the risk. Other big L1 clubs have done similar & been successful Quote
masi 51 Posted January 13 Posted January 13 6 minutes ago, London Wanderer said: Depends if the board want a chance of promotion this season or would rather play the long game. I’m hopeful he’ll try a new system and things will improve. But if they don’t & we’re drifting away from the playoffs, I think the board should take the risk. Other big L1 clubs have done similar & been successful So you are saying the board want promotion but have not backed him in the transfer market like they did with Evatt and will do again with the next Manager?? Quote
London Wanderer Posted January 13 Posted January 13 28 minutes ago, masi 51 said: So you are saying the board want promotion but have not backed him in the transfer market like they did with Evatt and will do again with the next Manager?? Not really saying that no. I think we should stop comparing to Evatt every time. Surely what we learnt from that was that changes can happen sooner. SS should have more time. But if by February this shite run of form & performances have continued, then changing manager could reignite the season. Many of the issues we see with SS aren’t because he hasn’t had enough transfer windows. Fwiw I think the board would still give him time next season if we finish outside the playoffs. Maybe thats the problem . I don’t think we as a club should be setting expectations that 9 points off automatic promotion at this stage is acceptable. Anyway, I hope the gaffer proves me wrong & turns things around, because I genuinely like the guy. He’ll have the fans behind him on Saturday regardless. Quote
Tonge moor green jacket Posted January 13 Posted January 13 By February? We're half way through Jan now, so that is around 2 weeks. Utterly pointless that. Either sooner, or not at all (or until promotion is effectively off the table). Quote
Zog1 Posted January 13 Posted January 13 3 hours ago, onefinfrandsen said: We had just beat Barnsley over 2 legs and a few weeks earlier battered Oxford, which teams are you referring to. It's not that it didnt happen, its that it was super rare. Quote
FrancisFogarty Posted January 13 Posted January 13 Some are talking as if we’re going down. We’ve had some shit performances recently but we still can’t seem to get out of the playoff places. It needs to change, and quickly, but we’re not even close to getting shut. Who do you get in, mid January anyway? Quote
onefinfrandsen Posted January 13 Posted January 13 17 minutes ago, Zog1 said: It's not that it didnt happen, its that it was super rare. If we had turned up at Wembley we wouldn’t be in this league. Quote
RUREADY2ROLL Posted January 13 Posted January 13 Bet the 75% who voted on sticking with him change their mind after this dross Quote
Alf Hartigan Posted January 13 Posted January 13 5 minutes ago, onefinfrandsen said: If we had turned up at Wembley we wouldn’t be in this league. We would if we had come straight back down 😀 Quote
meanderson93 Posted January 13 Posted January 13 3 hours ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: 2 players. Not loads as was suggested. Both players have been given games, even if not regular. Again, if they weren't wanted, I'm sure he would have got rid, even if on loan. Randall keels getting game time too, and SS has publicly stated that he reckons he's a good player. Guess we'll see what happens this month, but I don't buy this line that SS is stuck with Evatt dross. The team is largely his, and he chooses who plays. Does that make all his signings dross too, as we don't seem significantly better off in terms of position, results etc. You can't just get rid of players on hefty contracts for this level, you need to find someone to take them, either as loans paying full whack or on frees where they will accept contracts from other teams for less. It's not as easy as just saying get rid and it's done. The majority of 'his' signings are loans, think the only fees we paid were for the two midfielders and Gale who to be fair has been better than I expected. Weren't able to get in defenders outside of a free from Scotland and couldn't move the ones we had on because they had recent extensions. Quote
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