Moonguest Posted January 13 Posted January 13 Just now, Zog1 said: Bollocks By which I assume you mean self- evidently true. Quote
Hoppy Posted January 13 Posted January 13 As far as SS goes I feel we should try and back him till end of season and hope he turns it around but at the moment with all the changes he seems as though he just hasn't a clue on formation or how to motivate the team the Wigan game could be a make or break for him unfortunately, Quote
Arrested development Posted January 13 Posted January 13 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Zog1 said: Any of them, Forss, Dempsey, Randell Any pass that should go to them gets sent left or right, only for our wingers to get the ball, stop and then either run or cut inside. Makes us SO one dimensional, easy to defend against. This is the point. They aren't proper 10s. Randall is but he's wank. Dempsey and forss aren't creative. The one dimensional aspect is the fact that we only gave wingers who can create. Double up on them and problem solved. All the other teams who play with inverted wingers ( practically every other team in the land because it's not 1995) have other players centrally who can create. We don't. We have fuck all. So the opposition double up on the wingers and there is nobody inside to take advantage. Edited January 13 by Arrested development Quote
Johnnyrotten Posted January 13 Posted January 13 34 minutes ago, meanderson93 said: I'd love it if we stopped bring every man back for a corner, possibly my biggest pet peeve in football that, just invites pressure from the second ball. Hate it. I wasn't watching closely enough to notice tonight, but same here. Really infuriating and negative. Quote
Zog1 Posted January 13 Posted January 13 1 minute ago, Arrested development said: This is the point. They aren't proper 10s. Randall is but he's wank. Dempsey and forss aren't creative. The one dimensional aspect is the fact that we only gave wingers who can create. Double up on them and problem solved. All the other teams who play with inverted wingers ( practically every other team in the land because it's not 1995) have other players centrally who can create. We don't. We have fuck all. So the opposition double up on the wingers and there is nobody inside to take advantage. They dont even get the pass to be creative, watch the replays you can see the positioning and runs, they make them and nobody passes. Quote
barrycowdrill Posted January 13 Posted January 13 Currently got the same level of hope in this new batch of no marks as I did the previous versions. Wheels have well and truly fallen off and it seems no one has any remote idea as to why. Not just the results but it’s the manner of them Quote
Arrested development Posted January 13 Posted January 13 4 minutes ago, Moonguest said: By which I assume you mean self- evidently true. By which I mean just utter nonsense. If you think Josh Sheehan is a 10 fair enough but he's what late 20s, never played there in entire career. Not for us , not for Newport and not for wales. Quote
Tony Posted January 13 Posted January 13 Sadly that was a woeful performance. I know it should have been a penalty and I thought their goal was offside, but we barely threatened. I thought Taylor was the worst player on the pitch by a country mile. Quote
boltonboris Posted January 13 Posted January 13 11 minutes ago, Dimron said: Vale showed us how to score a goal... ss needs to make everyone watch it and then practice until it sinks in You mean an inverted winger coming off the wing by cutting inside and shooting? We never do that…… oh wait. Nah, to be fair the difference was how quickly they do it. I feel like in the same position, or winger would be slowing things down and the appetite for the team mates to get into the box wouldn’t be there. We’re very pedestrian Quote
Moonguest Posted January 13 Posted January 13 1 minute ago, Arrested development said: By which I mean just utter nonsense. If you think Josh Sheehan is a 10 fair enough but he's what late 20s, never played there in entire career. Not for us , not for Newport and not for wales. Sorry, with one exception - Josh Sheehan, dragged down to this level by the dross imported by Schumacher. Quote
Cheese Posted January 13 Posted January 13 19 minutes ago, Farnywhite said: Well if your on the clubs tv channel not a good idea to say it as it’s is a bit of happy clapping is usually best All he said was "it's not good enough". 🤷♂️ Quote
Arrested development Posted January 13 Posted January 13 We need a paris mahgoma type player. Someone who can pick out a pass but who can and is willing to beat a player. We have nobody like that playing centrally. It's just pass, pass, pass, pass. Someone needs to have the courage to beat a man and create things. Quote
masi 51 Posted January 13 Posted January 13 Thought we would improve with the subs, we went backwards if that was possible....Some of the worst individual performances i have seen in a white shirt Quote
waffer cup 07 Posted January 13 Posted January 13 We were very poor, totally devoid of ideas, but their goal was well offside and we should have had a penalty. Quote
CambridgeBWFC Posted January 13 Posted January 13 17 minutes ago, Moonguest said: Not even vaguely related to tactics. 100% related to quality of signings. Almost every SS player is League 1 journeyman. Utter Shite, none of his signings are league 1 journeymen. If we had a few of them we might actually be better. Quote
Lostock Whites Posted January 13 Posted January 13 My head is telling me to give him more time, that he needs more than just 1 window . But my gut is telling me that first of all I feel nauseous watching us at the moment. And second, we just look so bad, no ideas, no chemistry, the players body language is all wrong. The system doesn't work, the inverted wingers leads to barely any crosses and chances for the strikers to get onto and that the players just look like there's no chemistry at all between them. I don't really want us to sack him and be in the same position as last year. But when the performances are that abject. There's not a single positive from how we are playing. It's not even anything like the Mansfield game, dominating the game and losing to a single moment, which in itself isn't good enough. But we are so much worse than that now. I'd say give him the rest of the window and be begging the board to really get their hands in the pockets and back their man. But this cannot continue. Not at this club, in this league. Quote
CumbrianWhite Posted January 13 Posted January 13 3 minutes ago, Arrested development said: We need a paris mahgoma type player. Someone who can pick out a pass but who can and is willing to beat a player. We have nobody like that playing centrally. It's just pass, pass, pass, pass. Someone needs to have the courage to beat a man and create things. That’s a mentality thing I’d say. Players have no confidence and it’s showing. We’ve been lacking players with character for years. Quote
wakey Posted January 13 Posted January 13 Wheels have well and truly come off after Mansfield. Worryingly, the same happened last season after Rotherham and lasted til the end of the season. Summat obviously not right. Quote
CambridgeBWFC Posted January 13 Posted January 13 2 minutes ago, Lostock Whites said: My head is telling me to give him more time, that he needs more than just 1 window . But my gut is telling me that first of all I feel nauseous watching us at the moment. And second, we just look so bad, no ideas, no chemistry, the players body language is all wrong. The system doesn't work, the inverted wingers leads to barely any crosses and chances for the strikers to get onto and that the players just look like there's no chemistry at all between them. I don't really want us to sack him and be in the same position as last year. But when the performances are that abject. There's not a single positive from how we are playing. It's not even anything like the Mansfield game, dominating the game and losing to a single moment, which in itself isn't good enough. But we are so much worse than that now. I'd say give him the rest of the window and be begging the board to really get their hands in the pockets and back their man. But this cannot continue. Not at this club, in this league. That Mansfield game seems so long ago, but even though we lost it was a really cohesive and dominant performance without the killer touch. We look miles and miles off that. Quote
L/H White Posted January 13 Author Posted January 13 8 minutes ago, masi 51 said: Thought we would improve with the subs, we went backwards if that was possible....Some of the worst individual performances i have seen in a white shirt Those subs were like replacing the clap with aids The squad is terrible Quote
Leyther_Matt Posted January 13 Posted January 13 Just back. The goal really was laughable, just summed up so much of our half arsed play all night. Pretty dreadful game but the right result in all honesty. Could have sleepwalked to Wembley given the run of home draws and the teams remaining and still cocked it up. Quote
Ani Posted January 13 Posted January 13 Totally lacking belief and confidence. Players are waiting for something to happen and simply not running enough. 80% of the time it is a slow safe option. The other 20% overly complicated. Even the commentator mentioned the over complication because no one is taking responsibility. Taylor was just a fuck up for the goal . Forino can never play left centre half again, to try and play football from the back when one of the players is totally lost is never going to work. Was Gale better than first 44 mins on Saturday ? Play three in midfield idea has to be move the ball forward quicker and players get forward. Rarely happened. Forwards totally isolated but Jesus they make it look worse. Any team that ‘swarms’ the middle of the park we have no idea how to play through. Then stand off for 5 minutes as the centre halves play 47 succesful passes before the keeper hoofs it forward over the heads of the stationary midfield who watch the isolated forwards win zero ball. Quote
Johnnyrotten Posted January 13 Posted January 13 28 minutes ago, meanderson93 said: Anyway, losing in this trophy would usually be cause to celebrate, get out early as possible is my mantra. But, I did feel he needed that game to be better, a get right game or at least show something better than recent weeks. Not ideal, but not the end of the world. For what it's worth Wigan aren't up to much themselves, a bad 0-0 would be my bet for Saturday. A first clean sheet away v 11 men since the last time we played them would be something to celebrate! I'd snatch your hand off for Wigan nil. Quote
Eddie Posted January 13 Posted January 13 (edited) For balance (and I’m not sure I even believe there’s balance given the run it is a part of but I’ll say it anyway) The wins in this cup have been meaningless. We’ve looked like the best team on the planet at times (eg. v Bradford) but it hasn’t translated to the league. The players don’t care about these games, you can’t artificially create that extra 5-10% that a genuinely competitive game has. Maybe they should be able to, it’s their job at the end of the day, but the games in this cup are garbage, whether you win or lose. In isolation, I wouldn’t look too much into it. However, as part of the longer run and with questions around whether the players are still with him, it’s probably another nail in the coffin regardless as to whether it means anything. Edited January 13 by Eddie Quote
Moonguest Posted January 13 Posted January 13 11 minutes ago, CambridgeBWFC said: Utter Shite, none of his signings are league 1 journeymen. If we had a few of them we might actually be better. Just to be clear - League 2 journeymen? Quote
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