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[meanderson93]

12 minutes ago, Rival Son said:

Final score? Thanks

Lost 4-2, McAtee and Simons came off at half time. 

[Johnnyrotten]

4 hours ago, L/H White said:

Saka not even best winger at his club

gone the same way as cole palmer, overrated junk

Not having a go at any of these players but its amazing how many England players were/are "world class" and have variously gone from top of the tree to not exactly bottom, but just become sort of average.  Not long ago these players were considered £100mil type footballers, nailed on England stars that would take the team a long way in Euros and World Cups:

Rashford, Maddison, Grealish, Foden, Palmer, Alexander Arnold.

And that's without adding Bellingham and Saka who are still in around the team but no longer regarded as undroppable or players that are going to be the difference makers, just part of the squad standard rather than stand out.

It happens I suppose, there's no guarantee of maintaining early promise when loads of factors are at play.

[Rival Son]

29 minutes ago, meanderson93 said:

Lost 4-2, McAtee and Simons came off at half time. 

Thanks

[burnden]

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Edited Wednesday at 14:38 by burnden
repeat post

[jmjhb]

[gonzo]

Mad stat I heard yesterday that was every single FA cup final since 2016 has involved either Man City or Chelsea.

[Pablo]

19 hours ago, Johnnyrotten said:

Not having a go at any of these players but its amazing how many England players were/are "world class" and have variously gone from top of the tree to not exactly bottom, but just become sort of average.  Not long ago these players were considered £100mil type footballers, nailed on England stars that would take the team a long way in Euros and World Cups:

Rashford, Maddison, Grealish, Foden, Palmer, Alexander Arnold.

And that's without adding Bellingham and Saka who are still in around the team but no longer regarded as undroppable or players that are going to be the difference makers, just part of the squad standard rather than stand out.

It happens I suppose, there's no guarantee of maintaining early promise when loads of factors are at play.

Its an England Nation team issue rather than domestic....as most of them players are still playing at the very highest level, winning trophies and competing.

 

[Zico]

don't like the owner but hope Forest beat Villa and go on to win the EL

don't mind Emery and don't begrudge him winning another EL title

but I don't like Villa fans, so fuck em

[Pablo]

13 hours ago, gonzo said:

Mad stat I heard yesterday that was every single FA cup final since 2016 has involved either Man City or Chelsea.

Heard an even better one....Man City have now played at Wembley more that Spurs.....and Spurs spent a full season using it for home games!!!

[Johnnyrotten]

2 hours ago, Pablo said:

Its an England Nation team issue rather than domestic....as most of them players are still playing at the very highest level, winning trophies and competing.

 

Not sure I agree, I think all of those players listed would have gone for something approaching £100mil at some point in the last 5 years, they would have walked into any Prem team (Maddison not quite £100mil but say over 50).

I think only Bellingham and Saka are in that bracket now, their clubs all either stopped picking them automatically, or they did pick them but their form nosedived.  Not just an England thing. 

I know Maddison was injured but I think he was getting rested a lot before that.

 

[Dr. Feelgood]

Delighted to see Dale Vince's Vegans fail last night.

[jmjhb]

14 minutes ago, Dr. Feelgood said:

Delighted to see Dale Vince's Vegans fail last night.

Fuck Boreham Wood though. I don't want another BWFC in the league.

Edited 23 hours ago by jmjhb

[Pablo]

2 hours ago, Johnnyrotten said:

Not sure I agree, I think all of those players listed would have gone for something approaching £100mil at some point in the last 5 years, they would have walked into any Prem team (Maddison not quite £100mil but say over 50).

I think only Bellingham and Saka are in that bracket now, their clubs all either stopped picking them automatically, or they did pick them but their form nosedived.  Not just an England thing. 

I know Maddison was injured but I think he was getting rested a lot before that.

 

 

Rashford is about to win La Liga and is key player.

Grealish won a treble and multiple titles being brilliant, he is just 30 year old now so not as good.

Foden is still class and plays for the best team in the prem, and would walk into most teams. Pepe loves to rotate, and most players come in and out of form with him.

Palmer is still young, and I would not judge him as Chelsea are a mess.

Trent plays for the biggest club on the planet.

Maddison - well...nobody ever thought he was a worldy, and has never been world class.

Most still top top class players, and are performing right at the top.

[Johnnyrotten]

2 hours ago, Pablo said:

 

Rashford is about to win La Liga and is key player.

Grealish won a treble and multiple titles being brilliant, he is just 30 year old now so not as good.

Foden is still class and plays for the best team in the prem, and would walk into most teams. Pepe loves to rotate, and most players come in and out of form with him.

Palmer is still young, and I would not judge him as Chelsea are a mess.

Trent plays for the biggest club on the planet.

Maddison - well...nobody ever thought he was a worldy, and has never been world class.

Most still top top class players, and are performing right at the top.

Yeah some valid points there, Rashford definitely made a great comeback at Barca, suppose I was mainly thinking of how he couldn't get a game at Man U, or England, compared to about 5 years ago.  Doing well now.  

Foden - not sure if he's still class, no evidence of it in recent months either for England or City.  Again, I'm comparing him with maybe 2 or 3 years ago, when he was undroppable, now he can't get a game, that was the only point I was making.

Yes  TAA plays for Real Madrid, as does Bellingham, course they're top players.  I just got the impression their stars had fallen a bit from that elite level, if I'm wrong fair enough, just my take.  Its not always about which team you're at, you still have to perform (Onana played for Man U for a few years😀)

I look forward to Foden and Palmer getting back to their previous levels because I'd have built the England team around them a year or so ago and want to see that form again.  Along with Grealish, all 3 need/needed to get away from Pep to be able to express themselves.

[gonzo]

They reckon Fodens had some proper mental health stuff going on. Lad won PFA player of the season two seasons ago. He was unplayable.

Mad to think him and Palmer probably won't even go to the World Cup.

[Lt. Aldo Raine]

Bellingham's out on his own when it comes to English talent

[Traf]

22 hours ago, gonzo said:

Mad stat I heard yesterday that was every single FA cup final since 2016 has involved either Man City or Chelsea.

Celtic have won the SPL 22 times in the last 40 years.
Rangers have won the other 18.

 

[bolty58]

4 hours ago, Traf said:

Celtic have won the SPL 22 times in the last 40 years.
Rangers have won the other 18.

 

Aye, 4 seasons in the lower leagues for Rangers makes all the difference eh?

Don't think anyone would begrudge the jam tarts winning it this season other than our resident Hibee.

[green genie]

12 hours ago, gonzo said:

They reckon Fodens had some proper mental health stuff going on. Lad won PFA player of the season two seasons ago. He was unplayable.

Mad to think him and Palmer probably won't even go to the World Cup.

Definitely something not right in Folden’s mind. Whether it is just pressure of stepping up to be main man after KDB left then finding Cherki outplaying him or to do with his family who knows.

Palmer needs to find a maid in his league like Declan Rice and get away from the Insta bimbos. Unless he’s trying to prove he’s mediocre enough to play for Yoonited.

[Leyther_Matt]

8 hours ago, bolty58 said:

Aye, 4 seasons in the lower leagues for Rangers makes all the difference eh?

Don't think anyone would begrudge the jam tarts winning it this season other than our resident Hibee.

They’ll deserve it if they manage it. Been expecting them to fall off for months and never happened. But I’m still holding out for a modern day Albert Kidd. 

[BeeversLeftPeg]

40 minutes ago, Leyther_Matt said:

They’ll deserve it if they manage it. Been expecting them to fall off for months and never happened. But I’m still holding out for a modern day Albert Kidd. 

Massive weekend with Rangers at Hearts on Monday. 

Hibs to do them both a favour first?

 

[Dr. Feelgood]

15 hours ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said:

Bellingham's out on his own when it comes to English talent

His ego is his biggest fault ... aided by his interfering father.

[Zico]

Remi Matthews 

Remember him? 

Just seen he was on the bench for palace last night

[Traf]

21 minutes ago, Zico said:

Remi Matthews 

Remember him? 

Just seen he was on the bench for palace last night

Yeah, he's 3rd/4th choice there, but sits on the bench in Europe to fulfil "home-grown" quotas.

[Elson]

Morecambe season tickets for next season.
That’s some price for the National league North.