Site Supporter superjohnmcginlay Posted December 22, 2015 Site Supporter Share Posted December 22, 2015 Right... Perfect passing of the baton from the old to the new, thought it did what it needed to do to set it all up. I had dust in my eye a couple of times, it felt so much like a Star Wars film of that makes sense. Also the comedy element was suprisingly good Few Questions that spring to mind I've a few more but you lot might have them... How did Ben get tempted by Snook to the dark side How fucking tall is snook! is Rey A Skywalker and how come she could use Jedi mind tricks Did I hear Obi Wan say Rey when she saw the dark side whilst she had the lightsaber Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Spider Posted December 22, 2015 Site Supporter Share Posted December 22, 2015 All Jedis don't have to be Skywalkers! That said, I'm sure she'll turn out to have some sort of connection. (As an aside, I'd bum her until they needed police horses to pull me off) The Han Solo scene on the bridge was done perfectly, could have been messy very easily. The comedy was fantastic, but I think they'll need to curtail the references to the old episodes now or it could get a bit samey 10/10 for me though, ticked every box and actually improved on the originals in many ways. I'm going again next week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter superjohnmcginlay Posted December 22, 2015 Author Site Supporter Share Posted December 22, 2015 I know all Jedi aren't Skywalkers but they need training don't they! The bridge seen was brilliant, I was kind of expecting an temple of doom type scenario where the bridge split in two and he climbed to safety. The thing I loved was X-wings and Tie fighters, Admiral Ackbar I might go again! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter desperado Posted December 22, 2015 Site Supporter Share Posted December 22, 2015 Excellent - the dark original theme was fantastic, so many parallels to episode 4. They are clearly and purposefully leaving questions unanswered but would love to know who snook is, how he tempted Ben to dark side and what Rays links are to the past as well as the disappearance of Luke - like you say needs a 2nd viewing! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent_white Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 I thought it was brilliant. I was expecting an improvement but not to that extent. The best compliment I can pay it is that I enjoyed as much as parts 4,5 and 6. Couple of points - Leia needs killing off as her top lip is unable to move - maybe they could CGI it. The Empire need to close these easily exploitable loop holes in their master plans. So glad they killed off Han Solo. Not because I wanted him to die but because there was one terrifying moment when I thought they were going to hug on the bridge which would have been bullshit. I'm really struggling to find much fault with it. In a strange way I already care what happens to the new characters as much as the old. That's a hell of an achievement. Hopefully the next one will be dark as fook in line with TESB. JJ Abrams is now my second favourite JJ after Okocha! :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent_white Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 Also - that fighter pilot who's jacket Fin nicked. I reckon he's gonna be ace in the next few. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter HomerJay Posted December 22, 2015 Site Supporter Share Posted December 22, 2015 rey is proper mucky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaydan Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 Loved it! I don't think Snoke will turn out to be that tall - think it will be a distortion due to the hologram. The guy who plays Finn is going to be huge star. Saw him on Graham Norton - bags of charm. Loved the ending, figured she was Luke's daughter. Maybe too obvious? Geek fact -the stormtrooper in the scene where Ray uses the jedi mind trick to get out of the restraints is Daniel Craig! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jules_darby Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 (edited) Ok here goes It was fantastic in many ways - it felt like the first 3 and recaptured the soul of Star Wars for me. Visually absolutely stunning.... but I have a few gripes Firstly; the repetition has frustrated me; it was very, very like a rehash of a new hope. Some new ideas away from a planetary super weapon and them having to bring down shields etc would be nice...just like - Rey was the Skywalker; BB8 the R2D2, Snoke the Emperor, Ren the Vader, Hux the Tarkin, Luke the Yoda, Fin the Han Solo etc.... I also thought Kylo Ren lost his aura when he took his helmet off. I know he's conflicted yadda yadda but I couldn't talk him seriously then, the big fanny. Also he shouldn't be struggling to fight against Rey....she picked up the force far too quickly - it goes against everything really...her realisation of it was ridiculous. Captain Phasma.....a completely wasted part for me; could've been an interesting character but not used at all Also, regarding Snoke...I've read he is 7ft tall, and the projection is obviously for effect. Theories are that he could also be Plagueis, but I don't think he will be. Edited December 22, 2015 by jules_darby Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyldesley_white Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 (edited) The repetition frustrated me too I don't see Finn as Han Solo I see that in Poe Dameron, You have to remember Kylo Ren had been shot in the side just before the fight and her picking it up too quickly can be for 2 reasons 1) something happened when she picked up Lukes lightsaber or 2) she was trained by Luke at some point and has had her memory blocked which maybe reverted when 1 happened Edited December 23, 2015 by tyldesley_white Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayjayoghani Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 The repetition frustrated me too I don't see Fin as Han Solo I see that in Phasma, You have to remember Kylo Ren had been shot in the side just before the fight and her picking it up too quickly can be for 2 reasons 1) something happened when she picked up Lukes lightsaber or 2) she was trained by Luke at some point and has had her memory blocked which maybe reverted when 1 happened Yep the flashbacks when she picked up the lightsabre might be developed in the next one. Hope so Pretty much agree with Jules. It was good, fantastically entertaining yes but some variants in the main plot from Episode IV would have been better. At least we didn't get the Lucas (prequels) attempts at a plot though. I couldn't give a fuck about trade negotiations George Though I thought Kylo Ren was very well done and seeing his face didn't matter so much, to me anyway. Best line in the film...."anything else?" I was pissing my sides until I realised I was the only one laughing in the cinema. Rey albeit someone who I think will go places, does seem too much like another Keira Knightley. I was genuinely gutted seeing Chewbacca after Han was killed. I'm 42 for fucks sake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traf Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 So, is it a load of old shit, or not? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayjayoghani Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 Some people queue up to knock it and I'm not sure what they expect Will never win oscars, but it's wonderfully enjoyable if you let it be Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter superjohnmcginlay Posted December 22, 2015 Author Site Supporter Share Posted December 22, 2015 Just reading some of the trivia on IMDB liked this one Daniel Craig: The Stormtrooper to which Rey says "You will remove these restraints and leave this cell with the door open." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Spider Posted December 23, 2015 Site Supporter Share Posted December 23, 2015 Some people queue up to knock it and I'm not sure what they expect Will never win oscars, but it's wonderfully enjoyable if you let it be These are the type of people who would moan if the Minogue sisters spent a night sucking their dick Ignore Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
no balls Posted December 23, 2015 Share Posted December 23, 2015 Han Solo was my first crush. He's still got it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superbobby Posted December 23, 2015 Share Posted December 23, 2015 Ok here goes It was fantastic in many ways - it felt like the first 3 and recaptured the soul of Star Wars for me. Visually absolutely stunning.... but I have a few gripes Firstly; the repetition has frustrated me; it was very, very like a rehash of a new hope. Some new ideas away from a planetary super weapon and them having to bring down shields etc would be nice...just like - Rey was the Skywalker; BB8 the R2D2, Snoke the Emperor, Ren the Vader, Hux the Tarkin, Luke the Yoda, Fin the Han Solo etc.... I also thought Kylo Ren lost his aura when he took his helmet off. I know he's conflicted yadda yadda but I couldn't talk him seriously then, the big fanny. Also he shouldn't be struggling to fight against Rey....she picked up the force far too quickly - it goes against everything really...her realisation of it was ridiculous. Captain Phasma.....a completely wasted part for me; could've been an interesting character but not used at all Also, regarding Snoke...I've read he is 7ft tall, and the projection is obviously for effect. Theories are that he could also be Plagueis, but I don't think he will be. The Emperor didn't feature in ANH.....JSL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jules_darby Posted December 23, 2015 Share Posted December 23, 2015 The Emperor didn't feature in ANH.....JSL Yeah, sorry what i meant and should have explained better, is that it seemed to borrow much plot from ANH and ROTJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H Posted December 24, 2015 Share Posted December 24, 2015 These are the type of people who would moan if the Minogue sisters spent a night sucking their dick I'd moan all night Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Faustus Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 Is it established Kylo Ren was an only child? I loved it; however I agree about the pace, but would've been four hours long otherwise. The range of emotions I experienced surprised me... Am glad I opted for regular version first off (with eldest, and her surprisingly few questions), with Imax next week... Think I may have been blown away. Reserving judgement on where it sits until then. There is some repetition of plot, but its forgiven for character introduction and erm... termination ???? Leias lip wants blasting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Lofthouse Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 Absolutely superb I thought. I agree about kylo ren losing his best ever 'baddie' appeal when he lost his helmet. Reminded me of a young snape off Harry Potter and I know he got shot previously by chewy but he still got a good twatting by Rey. How come r2d2 only fired up at the end to release lukes whereabouts and how did kylo ren get vaders helmet? The Special effects in the tie fighter x wing fight scenes were superb and I loved the more detailed 5-10 minutes of film inside the millennium falcon, which tied it in nicely with the older films. I'm a bit gutted jj Abrams is only doing this film though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent_white Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 The guy who is directing the next one also did Looper which I thought was a really good sci fi caper. Hopefully he'll pull it out if the bag as well but I wouldn't fancy following it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaydan Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 Also directed the best ever episode of Breaking Bad - I'm expecting good things from ep8. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter only1swanny Posted December 31, 2015 Site Supporter Share Posted December 31, 2015 just got back.. i want to go again tomorrow.. Loved every second of it.. Finn is just a great character.. the whole concept of being a disillusioned trooper is brilliant, and loved how he explained how the troopers were now developed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
little whitt Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 when he took is mask offhow big was is fucking Chin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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