mickbrown Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 Give it a rest Mick. You can't bring yourself to criticise the woman because she's from your side of politics. Admit it. She seems to have little grief going on from what I have seen but you twist it to blame Trump like you normally do. You know fuck all about the woman. She may be putting in a brave face in public. She may be in total bits in private William and Harry weren't crying their bollox off as they walked behind their mother's coffin. Grandstanding twats. You stay classy Bolty lad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigtoe Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 She seems to have little grief going on from what I have seen Eh? Very saddened to get up and see another attempt in Cambrils. Thats a lovely place. We stayed there a few years ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ani Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 No, you were talking bollocks as has always been the case. See sometimes it would add some credibility to you arguement if you just said 'yeah I did not phrase that well'. I did that when I posted something about Mounts on one of these threads You actually make a point about how desensitised people are becoming about the murders by ISIS followers and you are very clear on your view re Nazis. So there is stuff that is reasonable and even for the vast majority I do not agree with I do follow the logic of your views. All I have done is ask you to justify a claim. You have tried to say that 'apparently' was qualifying the statement. Everyone reading that I guess would say it is somewhere between spin and bollocks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bolty58 Posted August 18, 2017 Members Share Posted August 18, 2017 You know fuck all about the woman. She may be putting in a brave face in public. She may be in total bits in private William and Harry weren't crying their bollox off as they walked behind their mother's coffin. Grandstanding twats. You stay classy Bolty lad. You know fuck all about her either! Don't worry about the classy mate - I am wearing Pantherella's yet again today. We have been discussing Americanisms elsewhere. I take it 'bollox' is a 'chillax' inspired bastardisation of a fine Anglo Saxon word? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bolty58 Posted August 18, 2017 Members Share Posted August 18, 2017 See sometimes it would add some credibility to you arguement if you just said 'yeah I did not phrase that well'. I did that when I posted something about Mounts on one of these threads You actually make a point about how desensitised people are becoming about the murders by ISIS followers and you are very clear on your view re Nazis. So there is stuff that is reasonable and even for the vast majority I do not agree with I do follow the logic of your views. All I have done is ask you to justify a claim. You have tried to say that 'apparently' was qualifying the statement. Everyone reading that I guess would say it is somewhere between spin and bollocks. Ian - it's a forum where some people like to throw a grenade every now and again to liven things up. Not that I ever would Work it out son. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bolty58 Posted August 18, 2017 Members Share Posted August 18, 2017 Eh? Very saddened to get up and see another attempt in Cambrils. Thats a lovely place. We stayed there a few years ago. Did you see her speak at the funeral? Seem normal to you? http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/heather-heyer-funeral-death-mother-speech-comments-trump-white-nationalists-magnify-a7897101.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ani Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 Ian - it's a forum where some people like to throw a grenade every now and again to liven things up. Not that I ever would Work it out son. Hmmmm. So it was not bollocks it was a wind up or fishing trip. Apparently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bolty58 Posted August 18, 2017 Members Share Posted August 18, 2017 Hmmmm. So it was not bollocks it was a wind up or fishing trip. Apparently. Keep trying matey. You won't get anywhere as well you know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigtoe Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 Did you see her speak at the funeral? Seem normal to you? http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/heather-heyer-funeral-death-mother-speech-comments-trump-white-nationalists-magnify-a7897101.html I take it you would prefer her to stand there sobbing? Everyone has a different mechanism of coping with grief. Maybe they find strength in that and what she believed in. No idea what the issue is here tbh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounts Kipper Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 The zeal and intensity that some folk use while condemning Trump for a seemingly incorrect statement is quite amazing and even more disturbing is the lack of condemnation for the perpetrators of this crime by the same folk. Strange world we live in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miamiwhite Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 The zeal and intensity that some folk use while condemning Trump for a seemingly incorrect statement is quite amazing and even more disturbing is the lack of condemnation for the perpetrators of this crime by the same folk. Strange world we live in. Very strange world mate. If it was a far right supporter was driving the van down Las Ramblas yesterday killing folk and injuring many more,we'd have a biased media outcry and women feminists marching all over the show, with their pink baseball bats and riot shields. Not to mention wanton vandalism and destruction of property etc. Folk were scathing at Trump's response, I wonder if they are equally scathing at the response from Islamists. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bolty58 Posted August 18, 2017 Members Share Posted August 18, 2017 I take it you would prefer her to stand there sobbing? Everyone has a different mechanism of coping with grief. Maybe they find strength in that and what she believed in. No idea what the issue is here tbh. No, not prefer. Expect maybe. Forgetting compassion for a moment, she looks like (and I would wager is) one of those professional protester types I so despise. Y'know, the one's I enjoy seeing water cannoned and baton charged. I maintain that seeing her deliver a political rallying call type speech at her daughters funeral seems more than odd to me. Still, I can accept that others may have differing views. Just call me a democrat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frank_spencer Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 (edited) The scum who murdered these people going about their business peacefully are the worst of the worst. These use of vehicles as means of mass slaughter is worrying as there's cock all that can be done about it. ISIS and their supporters are an issue that needs to be dealt with, how I have no idea. Unlike with the IRA and ETA there isn't one particular target with one particular goal. Oh and Trump is a twat spatula. Edited August 18, 2017 by frank_spencer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bolty58 Posted August 18, 2017 Members Share Posted August 18, 2017 The scum who murdered these people going about their business peacefully are the worst of the worst. These use of vehicles as means of mass slaughter is worrying as there's cock all that can be done about it. ISIS and their supporters are an issue that needs to be dealt with, how I have no idea. Unlike with the IRA and ETA there isn't one particular target with one particular goal. Oh and Trump is a twat spatula. Kinell Frank. You were going so well and I almost had to agree with you again. Then the anti Trump venom just had to come out............... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enzo gambaro Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 Very strange world mate. If it was a far right supporter was driving the van down Las Ramblas yesterday killing folk and injuring many more,we'd have a biased media outcry It was a far right supporter. There is a media outcry. You bell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miamiwhite Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 It was a far right supporter. There is a media outcry. You bell. Not exactly an outcry to Charlottesville is it ? Bell ?......oooh, a hard keyboard warrior.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miamiwhite Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 The scum who murdered these people going about their business peacefully are the worst of the worst. These use of vehicles as means of mass slaughter is worrying as there's cock all that can be done about it. ISIS and their supporters are an issue that needs to be dealt with, how I have no idea. Unlike with the IRA and ETA there isn't one particular target with one particular goal. Oh and Trump is a twat spatula. Good post Frank, though I'd suggest ISIS's goal is pretty clear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enzo gambaro Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 Not exactly an outcry to Charlottesville is it ? Depends what's on your Twitter feed, I suppose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miamiwhite Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 It was a far right supporter. There is a media outcry. You bell. My apology, I should have said far right WHITE. Ding Dong.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enzo gambaro Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 My apology, I should have said far right WHITE. Ding Dong.... It's alright, I got the gist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickbrown Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 Let's be clear here, there's fuck all difference between the neo nazis and ISIS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Escobarp Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 Let's be clear here, there's fuck all difference between the neo nazis and ISIS Apart from mass killings on an almost weekly basis by ISIS there may be some substance to your point when looking at political ideologies. Oh and one is currently waging a war against the entire western civilisation but aye they're like two peas in a pod Both are neanderthal movements though nad have no place in society that is a given. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweep Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 Rather have DT than the shite houses like Clinton or Obama Why in particular? what is he doing that's so much better than either of those two would do? - I'm not trying to get a rise, I just don't know what it is that he's doing, that you (or anybody else) think is so great Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ani Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 Is it really a case of arguing which event generates more coverage ? A lot will depend what feeds and links you have. But Barcelona on the BBC is getting miles more coverage than Charltosville did. Rightly IMO. Closer to home and similarity to incidents in our country. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bolty58 Posted August 18, 2017 Members Share Posted August 18, 2017 Common sense seems to have broken out on WWays. Stop it now. The fucking lot of you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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