Terror Attacks

[Zico]

Apart from mass killings on an almost weekly basis by ISIS there may be some substance to your point when looking at political ideologies.

 

Oh and one is currently waging a war against the entire western civilisation but aye they're like two peas in a pod

 

Both are neanderthal movements though nad have no place in society that is a given.

Regards mass killings and wars on civilisation The nazis had their go in the 1930s and 40s, though folk are supposed to have learnt and moved on

 

The depressing thing it appears they haven't so it doesn't bode well for crushing isis either, as we continue to see across europe

[miamiwhite]

Common sense seems to have broken out on WWays.

 

Stop it now. The fucking lot of you.

 

Folk's anger can't be silenced forever mate.

Reminds me of this guy who wouldn't be silenced, top bloke.

 

http://www.cbc.ca/radio/thesundayedition/august-13-2017-the-sunday-edition-1.4243314/britain-s-top-muslim-lawyer-refuses-to-be-silenced-after-manchester-attack-1.4243386

[miamiwhite]

Several people stabbed by an attacker now in Turku, Finland.

 

Attacker shot.

[bolty58]

Folk's anger can't be silenced forever mate.

Reminds me of this guy who wouldn't be silenced, top bloke.

 

http://www.cbc.ca/radio/thesundayedition/august-13-2017-the-sunday-edition-1.4243314/britain-s-top-muslim-lawyer-refuses-to-be-silenced-after-manchester-attack-1.4243386

 

Can't disagree. That takes some courage.

[miamiwhite]

Can't disagree. That takes some courage.

Religion of peace at it again in Finland.......who'd have thought it eh....

 

 

https://mobile.twitter.com/varjokivi/status/898544630882603009

[Sweep]

There was actually a bloke who rang into the radio earlier and said the best thing to do would be stop any more muslims from entering the UK, and any that are here should be deported. I'd have laughed if he wasn't being serious

[only1swanny]

Religion of peace at it again in Finland.......who'd have thought it eh....

 

 

https://mobile.twitter.com/varjokivi/status/898544630882603009

 

 

Page doesn't exist...

[miamiwhite]

Page doesn't exist...

Try this one Swanny.

 

Not nice though, as a stabbing victim is on the deck.

 

Yet another victim of the Religion of Pieces...

 

https://mobile.twitter.com/ylenews/status/898540288083472384

[Escobarp]

There was actually a bloke who rang into the radio earlier and said the best thing to do would be stop any more muslims from entering the UK, and any that are here should be deported. I'd have laughed if he wasn't being serious

Not in anyway saying I agree with his comment or view but genuine question how do we stop this if we don't do something of this extremity? Not that it could be done obviously anyway

[miamiwhite]

Looks like a fatality sadly in Turku

 

https://mobile.twitter.com/Conflicts/status/898546662859304965/photo/1

[miamiwhite]

Two confirmed dead now in Finland.

 

Sad fact but who is safe in Europe now ?

 

Those in Finland today,who have a relatively low immigrant population compared to others in the EU probably thought they were safe as houses going about their normal Friday business.

That is until a deranged terrorist screaming "God is great" decides to end their life or seriously injure them.

 

These fuckers are demented,determined,indiscriminate and have a twisted mindset, they do not care who they butcher. It has happened here as we all know full well recently and will most likely happen again. Chances are very low it will actually affect folk directly on here but it does happen without doubt, we cannot deny or argue over that fact.

 

Take care folks, have a good weekend and watch your bloody backs. Stay safe.

[Burndens Bogs]

Two confirmed dead now in Finland.

 

Sad fact but who is safe in Europe now ?

 

Those in Finland today,who have a relatively low immigrant population compared to others in the EU probably thought they were safe as houses going about their normal Friday business.

That is until a deranged terrorist screaming "God is great" decides to end their life or seriously injure them.

 

These fuckers are demented,determined,indiscriminate and have a twisted mindset, they do not care who they butcher. It has happened here as we all know full well recently and will most likely happen again. Chances are very low it will actually affect folk directly on here but it does happen without doubt, we cannot deny or argue over that fact.

 

Take care folks, have a good weekend and watch your bloody backs. Stay safe.

All spot on miami, but if you complain too much you're tagged as a racist.

Some of us saw this coming 20/30  years ago, but i guess i'm classed as a bigot for thinking multi culturism just  wouldn't work here in the UK.

One big melting pot for all cultures and creeds - 

What could possibly go wrong?

Edited August 18, 2017 by Burndens Bogs

[gonzo]

All spot on miami, but if you complain too much you're tagged as a racist.

Some of us saw this coming 20 years ago, but i guess i'm classed as a bigot for thinking multi cultiarlism would all go wrong.

I really don't think you are.

 

Everybody knows the problems. Everyone knows things should be different. But it's too late. We can't kick everyone out and we can't stop everyone coming in.

 

It's so far beyond that kind of simplistic ideology it really is.

 

Polarised stereotypes on here aside i reckon most on here are a lot more aligned than people think.

 

We all want the same things, we all know the issues. And we all know what causes it.

 

Nobody knows how to solve it.

[Guest]

I really don't think you are.

 

Everybody knows the problems. Everyone knows things should be different. But it's too late. We can't kick everyone out and we can't stop everyone coming in.

 

It's so far beyond that kind of simplistic ideology it really is.

 

Polarised stereotypes on here aside i reckon most on here are a lot more aligned than people think.

 

We all want the same things, we all know the issues. And we all know what causes it.

 

Nobody knows how to solve it.

 

 

The only possibility is that multiculturalism will be successful

 

 

Here's hoping

[gonzo]

I think multiculturalism is highly successful.

 

This country is better off with other habitants in it.

 

The problem is how those habitants are policed.

[miamiwhite]

I really don't think you are.

Everybody knows the problems. Everyone knows things should be different. But it's too late. We can't kick everyone out and we can't stop everyone coming in.

It's so far beyond that kind of simplistic ideology it really is.

Polarised stereotypes on here aside i reckon most on here are a lot more aligned than people think.

We all want the same things, we all know the issues. And we all know what causes it.

Nobody knows how to solve it.

Totally agree with you here Bonzo.

 

It is too late without doubt.

Much of our multicultural has been a fine success and there's nothing we can do now about the younger generation who've been/being indoctrinated to hate the West.

Homegrown terrorism is our country's own worst enemy now.

 

Here's to hoping a think tank such as Quilliam can somehow help solve the issue, thus create a lasting peace which our families and future bloodline can enjoy.

[gonzo]

The problem is Islam.

 

It's a bit like at the footy. Some normal lads who watch bolton home and away will know who the trouble makers are. But they've never say anything to anyone because loosely they all believe in the same cause.

 

It's the same with this lot. I watched the interviews with people that shared the same mosque as the Manchester bomber and his dad. You could see the guilt written all over his face. There's no way people in that mosques had no idea the sons had gone to Syria or the dad to Libya.

 

How the fuck you get people to flag stuff up is beyond me.

 

These fuckers are entrenched. I support bolton because my dad told me. This lot follow Islam in the same vein.

[miamiwhite]

The problem is Islam.

It's a bit like at the footy. Some normal lads who watch bolton home and away will know who the trouble makers are. But they've never say anything to anyone because loosely they all believe in the same cause.

It's the same with this lot. I watched the interviews with people that shared the same mosque as the Manchester bomber and his dad. You could see the guilt written all over his face. There's no way people in that mosques had no idea the sons had gone to Syria or the dad to Libya.

How the fuck you get people to flag stuff up is beyond me.

These fuckers are entrenched. I support bolton because my dad told me. This lot follow Islam in the same vein.

Perfectly summed again up Ads again in a fine sporting analogy.

 

Over the years, I've built up great some business contacts and working relationships with many Muslims in Bolton and beyond.

A lot do indeed keep hell of a lot in but the rift between Indian and Pakistani Muslims is clear to see. A classic example was one whose house I was working on up Halliwell Road.

They warned me off from pricing for what they called "a real shady character" ....they said he'd either not pay me or slit my throat.

The guy they warned me about has since been charged with terror offences from his Halliwell days.

 

Like you say, a lot know what's going on without doubt but one or two will be charitable as their religion dictates and try to guide you.

[bolty58]

The problem is Islam.

 

It's a bit like at the footy. Some normal lads who watch bolton home and away will know who the trouble makers are. But they've never say anything to anyone because loosely they all believe in the same cause.

 

It's the same with this lot. I watched the interviews with people that shared the same mosque as the Manchester bomber and his dad. You could see the guilt written all over his face. There's no way people in that mosques had no idea the sons had gone to Syria or the dad to Libya.

 

How the fuck you get people to flag stuff up is beyond me.

 

These fuckers are entrenched. I support bolton because my dad told me. This lot follow Islam in the same vein.

 

 

Have a +1 Gonzo. 

[TroySwoosh]

Perfectly summed again up Ads again in a fine sporting analogy.

 

Over the years, I've built up great some business contacts and working relationships with many Muslims in Bolton and beyond.

A lot do indeed keep hell of a lot in but the rift between Indian and Pakistani Muslims is clear to see. A classic example was one whose house I was working on up Halliwell Road.

They warned me off from pricing for what they called "a real shady character" ....they said he'd either not pay me or slit my throat.

The guy they warned me about has since been charged with terror offences from his Halliwell days.

 

Like you say, a lot know what's going on without doubt but one or two will be charitable as their religion dictates and try to guide you.

 

Very true, have a good friend who is an indian muslim and even though he has lots of pakistani friends he doesn't do business with pakistanis, doesn't trust them at all

 

I'm guessing the ones who warned you off were indian?

Edited August 18, 2017 by TroySwoosh

[miamiwhite]

Very true, have a good friend who is an indian muslim and even though he has lots of pakistani friends he doesn't do business with pakistanis, doesn't trust them at all

 

I'm guessing the ones who warned you off were indian?

Yes mate, they were Indians and very decent folk indeed.

 

In other matters, surprising how low key this attack is especially when one of the deceased is a young mother holding her baby

Very sad.

 

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/4272609/finland-attack-people-injured-stabbings-turku/amp/amp

[Spider]

The problem is Islam.

 

It's a bit like at the footy. Some normal lads who watch bolton home and away will know who the trouble makers are. But they've never say anything to anyone because loosely they all believe in the same cause.

 

It's the same with this lot. I watched the interviews with people that shared the same mosque as the Manchester bomber and his dad. You could see the guilt written all over his face. There's no way people in that mosques had no idea the sons had gone to Syria or the dad to Libya.

 

How the fuck you get people to flag stuff up is beyond me.

 

These fuckers are entrenched. I support bolton because my dad told me. This lot follow Islam in the same vein.

Best post on the thread Gonch.

 

You're dead right in the loyalty and I'd go so far as to say it's largely fear. Fear of their God, fear of their Imams, fear of a community backlash if perceived to be breaking rank.

 

Mate of mine always does Ramadan yet will break his fast every day with a bottle of Bud.

 

They're a confused bunch, western Muslims.

[Traf]

Best post on the thread Gonch.

 

You're dead right in the loyalty and I'd go so far as to say it's largely fear. Fear of their God, fear of their Imams, fear of a community backlash if perceived to be breaking rank.

 

Mate of mine always does Ramadan yet will break his fast every day with a bottle of Bud.

 

They're a confused bunch, western Muslims.

 

Bud is shit, so I'm not sure of your analogy

[Tonge moor green jacket]

I think multiculturalism is highly successful.

This country is better off with other habitants in it.

The problem is how those habitants are policed.

I'd say some aspects of other cultures have been beneficial. Not convinced about multiculturalism though, perhaps it does depend on how you view it.

 

For me allowing a large influx of people almost all of whom are housed together in areas with few indigenous folk was a huge mistake.

For from a multicultural society we are a society with many cultures in. Ie they often don't mix, and it has allowed the recreation of societies from which many of their forebears fled for a better life.

Naturally there was some disdain, and rightly we changed and became more accepting and its now biting us back.

A stable healthy society should accept immigrants, and naturally will take up aspects of their society which enriches everyone, food, for example.

Unfortunately we now have far too much of the stuff we don't need, which has made us poorer.

A gradual crackdown may be the only way; perhaps a moratorium on construction of new places of worship; far greater scrutiny of religious accounting (all religions) for a start.

[miamiwhite]

Attack in Russia now.

 

8 people stabbed.