Site Supporter Spider Posted October 8, 2019 Site Supporter Share Posted October 8, 2019 7 minutes ago, Moon boy said: You don’t speak for even 1 of those 17.5mill so that argument is bollocks I voted to leave, if after 3 years of arguing both sides cannot find a deal then it has to be ‘no deal’ i.e. Leave I think Boris’s deal will be agreed and win a majority in Parliament What’s your solution for the Irish border, out of interest? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moon boy Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 1 minute ago, birch-chorley said: I voted to remain However I’d have taken TM’s deal 6 months ago in order to honour the referendum and move on, I’d take it now No Deal is a complete load of bollocks If you honestly think the majority voted for that then you need to give your head a good shake Why do you think nobody wanted TM’s deal? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moon boy Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 Just now, Spider said: What’s your solution for the Irish border, out of interest? See Boris’s deal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted October 8, 2019 Site Supporter Share Posted October 8, 2019 2 minutes ago, birch-chorley said: I voted to remain However I’d have taken TM’s deal 6 months ago in order to honour the referendum and move on, I’d take it now No Deal is a complete load of bollocks If you honestly think the majority voted for that then you need to give your head a good shake No one has said they did. But it's not relevant really as the default position was created by parliament. The same parliament that so far has voted out TM deal and made life as difficult as possible or anyone else to achieve a decent alternative. As said before I too think we'd have been better of taking it, but it's history now. Need all the players to show sense and sort a deal. Quickly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birch-chorley Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 6 minutes ago, Moon boy said: Why do you think nobody wanted TM’s deal? Eh????? I don’t think that, read a few posts up, I said it’s closer to what 17.5m people voted for than leave I believe it’s being hijacked by hardliners who are now trying to make out that people really voted for No Deal, which is bollocks You we’re trying to make out like Cummings is some sort of people’s champion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birch-chorley Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: No one has said they did. But it's not relevant really as the default position was created by parliament. The same parliament that so far has voted out TM deal and made life as difficult as possible or anyone else to achieve a decent alternative. As said before I too think we'd have been better of taking it, but it's history now. Need all the players to show sense and sort a deal. Quickly. Parliament have also made it law to ask for an extension, so I guess we might go on some more If only the ERG has been loyal to their party and voted with TM Spineless traitors Edited October 8, 2019 by birch-chorley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweep Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 It's a farce, we'll be extending until 31st January, at the earliest now. When will this ever end? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Cheese Posted October 8, 2019 Site Supporter Share Posted October 8, 2019 36 minutes ago, Escobarp said: Cummins is a strategist and whether you like it or not was brought in by Boris to formulate the plan. Is he a nice likeable guy? Not really. Is he effective at what he does? I think he may be but the jury is out and it depends what exactly he has been asked to do What's "effective" and what is morally right are 2 entirely different things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Cheese Posted October 8, 2019 Site Supporter Share Posted October 8, 2019 14 minutes ago, Moon boy said: See Boris’s deal *proposal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moon boy Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 5 minutes ago, Sweep said: It's a farce, we'll be extending until 31st January, at the earliest now. When will this ever end? October 31st Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweep Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 Just now, Moon boy said: October 31st I'm glad you're still 100% sure we'll have left then, I hope you're right and something is sorted, but it's not looking great at the minute. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Spider Posted October 8, 2019 Site Supporter Share Posted October 8, 2019 22 minutes ago, Moon boy said: See Boris’s deal That’s not a solution, that’s a massive problem that you quite clearly don’t understand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweep Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 3 minutes ago, Spider said: That’s not a solution, that’s a massive problem that you quite clearly don’t understand. To be fair, there is a lot he doesn't understand about this, but he doesn't have a telly or read newspapers, so it's understandable that he struggles a little bit with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miamiwhite Posted October 8, 2019 Author Share Posted October 8, 2019 1 minute ago, Sweep said: To be fair, there is a lot he doesn't understand about this, but he doesn't have a telly or read newspapers, so it's understandable that he struggles a little bit with it. Do you really believe everything you read or see on tv ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Escobarp Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 15 minutes ago, Cheese said: What's "effective" and what is morally right are 2 entirely different things. You see I believe people trying from the outset to stop the result of the vote from happening is immoral. Strange world we live in isn’t it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moon boy Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 1 minute ago, Spider said: That’s not a solution, that’s a massive problem that you quite clearly don’t understand. Ok, I’ll give it a go, If we leave with ‘no deal’ the ROI/EU will have to deal with the border issue, it’s no big deal to the UK but the EU want to protect the ‘integrity ‘ of the single market so THEY would have to introduce border checks How are they going to do that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweep Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 1 minute ago, miamiwhite said: Do you really believe everything you read or see on tv ? Not of course not, but it does help one form a more rounded opinion of you have access to all forms of media, I'm sure you'll agree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted October 8, 2019 Moderators Share Posted October 8, 2019 3 minutes ago, Moon boy said: Ok, I’ll give it a go, If we leave with ‘no deal’ the ROI/EU will have to deal with the border issue, it’s no big deal to the UK but the EU want to protect the ‘integrity ‘ of the single market so THEY would have to introduce border checks How are they going to do that? No deal means WTO, doesn't it? Do we not need to record what's coming in? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miamiwhite Posted October 8, 2019 Author Share Posted October 8, 2019 1 minute ago, Sweep said: Not of course not, but it does help one form a more rounded opinion of you have access to all forms of media, I'm sure you'll agree. Certainly does, but a classic example and very recent is today’s BBC headline. It says no chance basically of a deal but the link clearly includes tweets which say the total opposite. Funny how one report makes all the headlines whilst one doesn’t, but is still easy to find. Very strange world and times we live in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jol_BWFC Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 Cummings hasn’t been brought in to facilitate Brexit. He has been brought in to facilitate Boris remaining as PM and winning a general election. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Spider Posted October 8, 2019 Site Supporter Share Posted October 8, 2019 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Moon boy said: Ok, I’ll give it a go, If we leave with ‘no deal’ the ROI/EU will have to deal with the border issue, it’s no big deal to the UK but the EU want to protect the ‘integrity ‘ of the single market so THEY would have to introduce border checks How are they going to do that? Oh Lord above Edited October 8, 2019 by Spider Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moon boy Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 1 minute ago, Spider said: Oh Lord above 3 words and you had to edit it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent_white Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 14 minutes ago, Moon boy said: it’s no big deal to the UK Quite possibly the most moronic sentence I've ever read on Wanderersways. And that's going some! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frank_spencer Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 12 minutes ago, Moon boy said: Ok, I’ll give it a go, If we leave with ‘no deal’ the ROI/EU will have to deal with the border issue, it’s no big deal to the UK but the EU want to protect the ‘integrity ‘ of the single market so THEY would have to introduce border checks How are they going to do that? Take back control of our borders by leaving our only land border wide open. The whole thing is still a massive shitshow and what ever happens will upset around half the population of the UK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted October 8, 2019 Moderators Share Posted October 8, 2019 2 minutes ago, Moon boy said: 3 words and you had to edit it? Hos initial reply was very subtle I suspect he had a re think Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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