Politics

[Farrelli]

24 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said:

Well that argument went well for cheese and Farrelli. 😂🤣😂

Well it did, you have shown that there is no workable plan for the Irish border post Brexit and our government's best policy is to ignore or illegally change any laws they don't like in the withdrawal agreement. Brilliant!

[Cheese]

1 minute ago, Sweep said:

Anybody who says "no deal is fine" doesn't have a clue what a shit storm it would be for both sides, if they did, then no way would they think it was "fine"

Anyway, Mounts had said several times there will definitely be a deal

I suspect that comes from the same part of his brain that thinks we should control our borders by opening them up and waving everyone through.

[Winchester White]

Just now, Farrelli said:

Well it did, you have shown that there is no workable plan for the Irish border post Brexit and our government's best policy is to ignore or illegally change any laws they don't like in the withdrawal agreement. Brilliant!

It does seem a bit odd this, a deal in January that Boris said was oven ready is now so shit in parts it is worth breaking international law over. It's not like it was signed by Corbyn before the election and now the new PM wants to change it is it? It is his deal.

I have a feeling they knew all along and just wanted it kicking down the road so they could 'get Brexit done' with their 'oven ready' deal and blitz that scruffy cunt Corbyn at the election. Job done, only now they are thinking, oh shit we have to deal with this mess now.

[Escobarp]

1 hour ago, Ani said:

Just because 4 of you ignore the fact you do not have an answer does not make you a winner. 

Who’s the 4? 😁

[Farrelli]

8 minutes ago, Escobarp said:

Who’s the 4? 😁

Do you want middle names or will initials do ?

[Farrelli]

48 minutes ago, Winchester White said:

It does seem a bit odd this, a deal in January that Boris said was oven ready is now so shit in parts it is worth breaking international law over. It's not like it was signed by Corbyn before the election and now the new PM wants to change it is it? It is his deal.

I have a feeling they knew all along and just wanted it kicking down the road so they could 'get Brexit done' with their 'oven ready' deal and blitz that scruffy cunt Corbyn at the election. Job done, only now they are thinking, oh shit we have to deal with this mess now.

It was just to win him an election.

Cummings told him exactly what slogan to use, 'get brexit done' and avoid the Andrew Neil interview.

[Escobarp]

12 minutes ago, Farrelli said:

Do you want middle names or will initials do ?

Wasn’t talking to you bedwetter

[Tonge moor green jacket]

3 hours ago, Cheese said:

So you think all borders should be totally open regardless of trade agreements, treaties, union membership etc..?

If you infer that from my statement, then you are stupid. 

Moreover, given the particular situation in Ireland, and the fact that other agreements exist that aren't eu ones, then its just another example of you twisting comments and trying to make arguments that aren't there.

Yet you like to claim to be talking truths.

Ignorance for the sake of arguments.

[Farrelli]

30 minutes ago, Escobarp said:

Wasn’t talking to you bedwetter

It's a forum you gobshite🤣

[Escobarp]

2 minutes ago, Farrelli said:

It's a forum you gobshite🤣

Point still stands. 

[paulhanley]

36 minutes ago, Escobarp said:

Wasn’t talking to you bedwetter

He's in a proper strop isn't he. They do seem to be in a state of high dudgeon just now do the die-hard remain loyalists. Toys out of the pram. 

Think back twelve months to when Hammond, Bercow, Soubry, Swinson, Sturgeon and their cronies were busy trying to stop Brexit. Compare with now.

Not hard to see why the paddying is going on is it. 

Oh well. Them being upset is the surest sign of the lot we're on track. The four year tantrum goes on. 23/06/2016.

[Tonge moor green jacket]

2 hours ago, Ani said:

So we are happy to have a border with an EU country and allow free movement of people and goods across that border. When that is Ireland , but not if it if France ? 
 

So we are treating Ireland differently to the rest of the UK.  I am sure Gerry Adams and his mates will be happy. 
 

No surrender ? Dump the Unionists ? 
 

Just checking what it is people want. We leave the EU to reclaim our sovereignty but ignore NI ? I thought the reason Boris wanted to re do the agreement was to allow for tariffs ? 

Tell you what, let's go and build big fuck off walls and have a right hard border. Send in the military and have a protracted internal war. Would that make you happy?

Another silly statement, so a silly answer.

Agreements existed prior to eu deals and agreements, and in order to keep these, then no border will be hardened. The suggestion that a British government would want to do anything else is crass folly.

So of course free movement must continue over that border.

EU will need to accept this and find a way to work together to ensure it stays that way.

If the solutions involve new technologies, who knows, they may be suitable for use on other borders.

[gonzo]

Why doesnt Ireland beceome part of Great Britain? 

Would save a whole lot of aggro.

[Ani]

1 hour ago, Escobarp said:

Who’s the 4? 😁

It is the sanctimonious 7 minus 3. 
 

Obviously. 

[Zico]

11 minutes ago, gonzo said:

Why doesnt Ireland beceome part of Great Britain? 

Would save a whole lot of aggro.

Or just let them have it back

Those in NI who dont like it can be relocated to Glasgow or wherever feels like home

[Ani]

26 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Tell you what, let's go and build big fuck off walls and have a right hard border. Send in the military and have a protracted internal war. Would that make you happy?

Another silly statement, so a silly answer.

Agreements existed prior to eu deals and agreements, and in order to keep these, then no border will be hardened. The suggestion that a British government would want to do anything else is crass folly.

So of course free movement must continue over that border.

EU will need to accept this and find a way to work together to ensure it stays that way.

If the solutions involve new technologies, who knows, they may be suitable for use on other borders.

So no answer. 
 

Free movement across the border is part of the GFA. It is not the EU that is changing the withdrawal bill it is us. 
 

Whatever the solution is we need to get it agreed with all parties which is the EU and both sides in Ireland. So no deal is not an option. The fact that are 2 sides in Ireland that want different things is why the comparison with the Swiss is nonsense.

 

We are leaving but wanting a sensible workable deal is not the same as trying to derail Brexit. It is clear no one here has an idea how the deal can work. I do not have a clue and the idea  the current bunch of clowns can do this in a time scale that is more than strained by the virus is just not believable. 
 

Talking of the virus if we have no agreement and either side develops a workable virus the balance of power switches totally. 

[Escobarp]

10 minutes ago, Ani said:

It is the sanctimonious 7 minus 3. 
 

Obviously. 

Of course how silly of me 

[gonzo]

7 minutes ago, ZicoKelly said:

Or just let them have it back

Those in NI who dont like it can be relocated to Glasgow or wherever feels like home

Aye maybe the outer hebradies or summet. Loads of space up there.

[Ani]

38 minutes ago, paulhanley said:

He's in a proper strop isn't he. They do seem to be in a state of high dudgeon just now do the die-hard remain loyalists. Toys out of the pram. 

Think back twelve months to when Hammond, Bercow, Soubry, Swinson, Sturgeon and their cronies were busy trying to stop Brexit. Compare with now.

Not hard to see why the paddying is going on is it. 

Oh well. Them being upset is the surest sign of the lot we're on track. The four year tantrum goes on. 23/06/2016.

Strange you mention paddys and loyalists in your reply. Do you not know they have been side lined ?? 

[Escobarp]

2 minutes ago, gonzo said:

Aye maybe the outer hebradies or summet. Loads of space up there.

Don’t spoil a beautiful part of the world with people of that ilk. 
you’re just grumpy cos you can’t have a pint 😁

[gonzo]

5 minutes ago, Escobarp said:

Don’t spoil a beautiful part of the world with people of that ilk. 
you’re just grumpy cos you can’t have a pint 😁

🇬🇧

[Spider]

1 minute ago, Mr Grey said:

It's gone all Bobby Sands on here tonight.

I’ve had a massive tea, so count me out

[Winchester White]

53 minutes ago, paulhanley said:

He's in a proper strop isn't he. They do seem to be in a state of high dudgeon just now do the die-hard remain loyalists. Toys out of the pram. 

Think back twelve months to when Hammond, Bercow, Soubry, Swinson, Sturgeon and their cronies were busy trying to stop Brexit. Compare with now.

Not hard to see why the paddying is going on is it. 

Oh well. Them being upset is the surest sign of the lot we're on track. The four year tantrum goes on. 23/06/2016.

We are leaving so we need to sort this asap.

What we currently have is a clusterfuck of our own making.

[gonzo]

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[Winchester White]

14 minutes ago, gonzo said:

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Jacob Rees Mogg is such a cunt he makes Tony Blair look like a fucking saint.

How the fuck he ended up where he is now is as batshit crazy as Corbyn getting the big gig for Labour.  The sooner these idiot fringe 6th form politics dickwipes fuck off the better.