jules_darby Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 Just now, Winchester White said: Jacob Rees Mogg is such a cunt he makes Tony Blair look like a fucking saint. How the fuck he ended up where he is now is as batshit crazy as Corbyn getting the big gig for Labour. The sooner these idiot fringe 6th form politics dickwipes fuck off the better. Spot on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted September 15, 2020 Moderators Share Posted September 15, 2020 said it before, mogg and his mates are taking the piss Just seeing how far they can push it before everybody realises Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bolty58 Posted September 16, 2020 Members Share Posted September 16, 2020 14 hours ago, Ani said: In Boris you trust. 😂🤣😂 As a famous man once said, 'retain the essential, discard the non essential'. With this in mind I shortened your post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bolty58 Posted September 16, 2020 Members Share Posted September 16, 2020 I have read the rest of the thread and the bottom line is that remainers of all types will hang on to every last hope of the decision being reversed and are happy the see the EU attempt to bully the UK using NI as a premise. Conversely, leavers become more entrenched in the opinion that we should get out of this crooked club at the earliest opportunity and forge our own way in the world free of the machinations of faceless Brussels bureaucrats only really concerned about maintaining their own lavish lifestyles. Like most I suspect, will be glad to see this well behind us and see a UK making the most of its innate inventiveness and industriousness and forging ahead as we always have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweep Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 I think most want this over and done with - sadly, it's not proving to be as easy as it was implied. At some point, it looks like we're in for a bit of pain, it won't be seamless. A major issue here, and I know you've got Boris down as a Winston Churchill type character (although to be fair, you did also say May was Thatcher like) but he really doesn't inspire confidence. Even Mounts has said he'd like to see Boris gone after we finally get Brexit done.....and this will happen, as the Tory party will have to get rid of him, as he seems to be utterly inept. I've no doubt the UK will make a success of things moving forward, and our leaving will force reform in the EU, which is a good thing, it'd just be nice it things were straight forward. Even a blind man can see that to sign a deal and claim it to be "oven ready" and then to row back on that within 9 months isn't ideal. Unless we extend the transition period, then we've only got just over 100 days until we potentially enter the world of WTO, which people on both sides agree we don't really want. I know that you've said in the past that you would have no problem with it, but that's fine for you to say when you're sat on the other side of the world. Those of us who live and work here are a little concerned, as we can see a shitstorm on the horizon, that we'll have to deal with for the next 5 or 10 years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farrelli Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 58 minutes ago, Sweep said: I think most want this over and done with - sadly, it's not proving to be as easy as it was implied. At some point, it looks like we're in for a bit of pain, it won't be seamless. A major issue here, and I know you've got Boris down as a Winston Churchill type character (although to be fair, you did also say May was Thatcher like) but he really doesn't inspire confidence. Even Mounts has said he'd like to see Boris gone after we finally get Brexit done.....and this will happen, as the Tory party will have to get rid of him, as he seems to be utterly inept. I've no doubt the UK will make a success of things moving forward, and our leaving will force reform in the EU, which is a good thing, it'd just be nice it things were straight forward. Even a blind man can see that to sign a deal and claim it to be "oven ready" and then to row back on that within 9 months isn't ideal. Unless we extend the transition period, then we've only got just over 100 days until we potentially enter the world of WTO, which people on both sides agree we don't really want. I know that you've said in the past that you would have no problem with it, but that's fine for you to say when you're sat on the other side of the world. Those of us who live and work here are a little concerned, as we can see a shitstorm on the horizon, that we'll have to deal with for the next 5 or 10 years Sweep I think you are one of the most balanced contributors on this thread and I agree with that summary. Most of us now see that 5-10 years of disruption and pain will follow in post brexit UK with this lot in charge. However, there are other things as well, Scotland leaving the UK and peace in Northern Ireland being the two most prominent. Will Brexit be worth paying such a price ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweep Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 2 minutes ago, Farrelli said: Sweep I think you are one of the most balanced contributors on this thread and I agree with that summary. Most of us now see that 5-10 years of disruption and pain will follow in post brexit UK with this lot in charge. However, there are other things as well, Scotland leaving the UK and peace in Northern Ireland being the two most prominent. Will Brexit be worth paying such a price ? Until we get there, we'll not know, I'd rather we didn't break up the Union, but there will be plenty who won;t be overly bothered. Regarding NI, I think it's clear that those running the show really don't give a toss either way about them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farrelli Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 2 minutes ago, Sweep said: Until we get there, we'll not know, I'd rather we didn't break up the Union, but there will be plenty who won;t be overly bothered. Regarding NI, I think it's clear that those running the show really don't give a toss either way about them It certainly looks that way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Escobarp Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 9 minutes ago, Sweep said: Until we get there, we'll not know, I'd rather we didn't break up the Union, but there will be plenty who won;t be overly bothered. Regarding NI, I think it's clear that those running the show really don't give a toss either way about them Oh sweep. I think you’re wonderful 😘😘😘 i also agree that they don’t give a toss about NI. If they did they wouldn’t have signed the WA in the first place. what’s more important to us the union or our relationship with the EU? That’s the million dollar question. I know what I would choose and I’m a unionist. But I’m also a realist and if it’s a choice of WTO and the union or a deal and no union I know what gets my vote Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Spider Posted September 16, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted September 16, 2020 Are people seriously saying that England will be stronger without the Scots, Welsh and Northern Irish? I'm English and proud, but the UK is much more formidable than the sum of it's parts. Scotland leaving the union would be absolute wank. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyldesley_white Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 Lets hope this is better then the "Track and trace" The last paragraph get's me https://www.bbc.com/news/business-54172222 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweep Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 6 minutes ago, Spider said: Are people seriously saying that England will be stronger without the Scots, Welsh and Northern Irish? I'm English and proud, but the UK is much more formidable than the sum of it's parts. Scotland leaving the union would be absolute wank. We know that, and I think enough Scots know that as well, so we should be OK. I'd guess that NI is the real issue, as I can see them reuniting with the rest of Ireland in the near future, especially if they end up in some sort of unpleasant "no mans land" which finds them neither in nor out of the EU Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZiggyStardust Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 17 minutes ago, tyldesley_white said: Lets hope this is better then the "Track and trace" The last paragraph get's me https://www.bbc.com/news/business-54172222 FFS. Quote But the government now says "beta" is a standard labelling practice for a digital service that is fully operational. No. it. is. fucking. not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyldesley_white Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 3 minutes ago, ZiggyStardust said: FFS. No. it. is. fucking. not. I know Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Spider Posted September 16, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted September 16, 2020 8 minutes ago, ZiggyStardust said: FFS. No. it. is. fucking. not. The track and trace system. That wasn't even beta. They just wing it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
green genie Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 1 hour ago, Spider said: Scotland leaving the union would be absolute wank. Be alreet for Plymouth. We would get all sub work from Rosyth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounts Kipper Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 23 minutes ago, green genie said: Be alreet for Plymouth. We would get all sub work from Rosyth. And we wouldn’t have to subsidise the Scottish government. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Escobarp Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 Just now, Mounts Kipper said: And we wouldn’t have to subsidise the Scottish government. Not quite as straightforward as that in reality though and well you know it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Cheese Posted September 16, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted September 16, 2020 1 hour ago, Spider said: Scotland leaving the union would be absolute wank. Militarily it would be a fucking disaster. The UK's nuclear deterrant would be virtually inoperable without a base on the Clyde. Although I suppose some might see that as a good thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
green genie Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 Just now, Cheese said: Militarily it would be a fucking disaster. The UK's nuclear deterrant would be virtually inoperable without a base on the Clyde. Although I suppose some might see that as a good thing. Why? To the first statement Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Spider Posted September 16, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted September 16, 2020 The Union Jack would have to go Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter MickyD Posted September 16, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted September 16, 2020 1 minute ago, Spider said: The Union Jack would have to go Flag... apparently! 🤣🤣🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
green genie Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 15 minutes ago, MickyD said: Flag... apparently! 🤣🤣🤣 Anecdotedly only referred to as Jack when flown on a ship Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter MickyD Posted September 16, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted September 16, 2020 1 minute ago, green genie said: Anecdotedly only referred to as Jack when flown on a ship Hang on, @bolty58 will be getting up for work in a bit. He’ll know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter MickyD Posted September 16, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted September 16, 2020 Just now, MickyD said: Hang on, @bolty58 will be getting up for work in a bit. He’ll know. I say in a bit. It’s only 01.32 Anyone got his mobile number? 🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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