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[wanderer1984]

Yes Boris! On to the next one... Keep them coming 

 

[Casino]

Thats a fucking rock hard name the flag quiz

[leigh white]

10 minutes ago, Casino said:

Thats a fucking rock hard name the flag quiz

I got Burkina Faso.

[Casino]

Some top, top nations there

[Spider]

26 minutes ago, wanderer1984 said:

Yes Boris! On to the next one... Keep them coming 

 

Aren’t at least half of those just islands in the South Pacific?

[Spider]

I see Cummingsikov has been recalled to the Kremlin for a full debrief in the new year.

Magic

[leigh white]

7 minutes ago, Spider said:

I see Cummingsikov has been recalled to the Kremlin for a full debrief in the new year.

Magic

Thank fuck labour never got voted in, this is a perfect storm for Johnson coming from all angles.

[Ani]

1 hour ago, wanderer1984 said:

Yes Boris! On to the next one... Keep them coming 

 

Are these new deals or continuation of existing EU deals ? 

[Cheese]

18 minutes ago, Ani said:

Are these new deals or continuation of existing EU deals ? 

New of course. We were never allowed to trade with any of these countries when we were in the EU, remember?

And don't you dare question whether these deals are better than what we already had, or if we might've given away a bit more in return for something we could portray as positive news. I know your type. Always interested in "details" rather than just waving a Union Flag.

Edited November 13, 2020 by Cheese

[bolty58]

8 hours ago, Escobarp said:

How is it deformation of character? Only loons believe it 🤒

Only loons spell 'defamation' as 'deformation' (him, not thee).

Edited November 13, 2020 by bolty58

[wanderer1984]

6 hours ago, Cheese said:

New of course. We were never allowed to trade with any of these countries when we were in the EU, remember?

And don't you dare question whether these deals are better than what we already had, or if we might've given away a bit more in return for something we could portray as positive news. I know your type. Always interested in "details" rather than just waving a Union Flag.

Of course there new deals. A new agreement has been met. It doesn't matter if it's a existing one. Look at it like a footballer signing a new contract.

[birch-chorley]

45 minutes ago, wanderer1984 said:

Of course there new deals. A new agreement has been met. It doesn't matter if it's a existing one. Look at it like a footballer signing a new contract.

The Japan one (which has a decent amount of scale) is basically the EU terms rolled over (hardly getting our sovereignty back). It’s also linked to the EU trade deal for volume limits, the EUROPEAN sells more of X then we can only sell less etc 

[Mounts Kipper]

Cummins leaving before Christmas, Insider claiming Johnson realised Cummings and Cain only in it for themselves, I’d think there’s been a fall out over the final deal. 

[Ani]

52 minutes ago, wanderer1984 said:

Of course there new deals. A new agreement has been met. It doesn't matter if it's a existing one. Look at it like a footballer signing a new contract.

Could you give as many examples of footballers signing a new contract on the same terms. 
 

All these deals are in essence roll overs of the existing EU deals 

[Escobarp]

11 minutes ago, birch-chorley said:

The Japan one (which has a decent amount of scale) is basically the EU terms rolled over (hardly getting our sovereignty back). It’s also linked to the EU trade deal for volume limits, the EUROPEAN sells more of X then we can only sell less etc 

Japan in overall import quotas shocker you mean? Hardly ground breaking mate 

[Escobarp]

3 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said:

Cummins leaving before Christmas, Insider claiming Johnson realised Cummings and Cain only in it for themselves, I’d think there’s been a fall out over the final deal. 

Makes a lot of peoples nonsense that’s been spouted look even more ridiculous doesn’t it this about who’s really in charge etc. sure they will find something else to invent to fit their rhetoric now though 

[Spider]

7 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said:

Cummins leaving before Christmas, Insider claiming Johnson realised Cummings and Cain only in it for themselves, I’d think there’s been a fall out over the final deal. 

Cummings was always after No Deal.

Boris needs a deal to save face.

If it turns out Boris has shown some balls and sacked the creepy cunt, then fair fucks to him.

The devil is in the detail as usual.

[bolty58]

Aren't the Project Fear brigade spouting about Covid vaccine deliveries being adversely affected by Brexit now?

 

[Mounts Kipper]

5 minutes ago, bolty58 said:

Aren't the Project Fear brigade spouting about Covid vaccine deliveries being adversely affected by Brexit now?

 

Yes they are, Lammy was on question time, laughing when Hancock said they had contingency plans, the likes of Lammy would love it to go pear shape... the utter cunt. 

[deane koontz]

Laura's unknown government source is leaving 😟

[birch-chorley]

1 hour ago, Escobarp said:

Japan in overall import quotas shocker you mean? Hardly ground breaking mate 

https://www.ft.com/content/99299608-85b9-4770-afea-a7c621f2fc75

The vaunted compromise on agriculture — which the UK had made a priority in the hope of raising sales of value-added exports such as cheese — has less substance than London suggests. Britain failed to secure new so-called tariff rate quotas, which allow EU farmers to sell a limited quantity of sensitive food products to Japan at lower tariffs. The UK can instead use any quota left unfilled by the EU in 10 of 25 products covered by the EU-Japan agreement. Officials insist there are gaps the UK could fill. But the deal puts the UK second to the EU on agricultural exports to Japan — even if, in monetary terms, this is not a vital market.

 

[birch-chorley]

Point being that we have a free trade deal that looks a heck of a lot like what we had as part of the EU block

Hardly the upside that we were looking for from a Bespoke free trade agreements 

Lets hope we can find some upsides elsewhere to offer set the hit in EU trade (that’s likely to come if we agree anything but a full free trade agreement) 

[Escobarp]

1 minute ago, birch-chorley said:

https://www.ft.com/content/99299608-85b9-4770-afea-a7c621f2fc75

The vaunted compromise on agriculture — which the UK had made a priority in the hope of raising sales of value-added exports such as cheese — has less substance than London suggests. Britain failed to secure new so-called tariff rate quotas, which allow EU farmers to sell a limited quantity of sensitive food products to Japan at lower tariffs. The UK can instead use any quota left unfilled by the EU in 10 of 25 products covered by the EU-Japan agreement. Officials insist there are gaps the UK could fill. But the deal puts the UK second to the EU on agricultural exports to Japan — even if, in monetary terms, this is not a vital market.

 

Yep exactly what I said. Japan in import quota shocker. We all have them and will continue to do so. We will also have ranking agreements regarding certain products with certain other countries. 
 

and fwiw the FT has, imo, been proven to be one of the most partisan detractors of Brexit in recent times. 

[birch-chorley]

2 minutes ago, Escobarp said:

Yep exactly what I said. Japan in import quota shocker. We all have them and will continue to do so. We will also have ranking agreements regarding certain products with certain other countries. 
 

and fwiw the FT has, imo, been proven to be one of the most partisan detractors of Brexit in recent times. 

What’s the upside then? In your opinion 

[Escobarp]

Just now, birch-chorley said:

Point being that we have a free trade deal that looks a heck of a lot like what we had as part of the EU block

Hardly the upside that we were looking for from a Bespoke free trade agreements 

Lets hope we can find some upsides elsewhere to offer set the hit in EU trade (that’s likely to come if we agree anything but a full free trade agreement) 

I agree with your point but we are at the start of a process. We were never going to walk into deals that were exponentially better than what we have as part of the eu. We will get some that favour us more in certain areas and some that aren’t so good. 
 

 Will be 10/20 years before we can assess how good or bad a choice it was in reality