Politics

[kent_white]

1 minute ago, London Wanderer said:

Cartoons often used to be low stimulation 30 years ago 

You've obviously not been watching the right episodes of Bananaman. It gets pretty gritty by series 17

[London Wanderer]

What content is better content?

Young children’s brains are stimulated much more easily than adults’, so they need content specifically made for them.

Slow-paced content: Slow-paced, predictable content is better for young brains. Fast-paced, over-stimulating social media-style videos may affect how young children learn to concentrate, so it’s best to avoid them.

Choose safe content: Use parental controls to block inappropriate, harmful content.

Avoid social media: Social media isn’t made for young brains, so it should be avoided.

Avoid AI: Don’t let young children use AI toys, tools or chatbots until there’s more evidence on how they affect your child. This includes devices or apps such as interactive robots, smart speakers or AI chat apps.

There's the guidance - for anyone looking after their own kids or anyone else's. 

[London Wanderer]

Just now, kent_white said:

You've obviously not been watching the right episodes of Bananaman. It gets pretty gritty by series 17

Rupert the Bear and Animals of Farthing Wood mate 🤣

Remember Watership Down getting pretty dark at one point.

[Cheese]

3 minutes ago, kent_white said:

You've obviously not been watching the right episodes of Bananaman. It gets pretty gritty by series 17

Bullshit. Bananaman only ran for 3 series.

[royal white]

4 minutes ago, London Wanderer said:

Would help if you read the guidance as it makes it clear that not all screen time is the same. Cartoons often used to be low stimulation 30 years ago and you'd often watch stuff socially as a family or play video games together. Many video games still involve problem solving and creative skills. 

TV shows are great - as are many video games played in moderation. All this stuff has its place. 

It's social media platforms designed to be addictive... AI slop... and massively overstimulating cartoons. It's all designed to hook young people in through dopamine reward and does very little to promote any cognitive thinking or development. Children aren't capable of saying no or knowing when to stop. Like me and you having a row

This guidance comes from very clear evidence that giving under two's ipads every day is causing widespread harm - as is social media and AI slop on Youtube.

Parents letting their kids watch a specific show or watching stuff with them have nothing to worry about.

Behaviour in schools and the ability of kids to focus has been hugely impacted. It's a worry and this guidance is long overdue. Next step is to make some of it law. 

I did read it. Fair play if your parents sat with you after school to watch thundercats and news round but mine were at work or getting tea ready.

And which 2-5 year olds are using social  media? 

[London Wanderer]

2 minutes ago, royal white said:

I did read it. Fair play if your parents sat with you after school to watch thundercats and news round but mine were at work or getting tea ready.

And which 2-5 year olds are using social  media? 

So if you read it why are you arguing watching news round & thunder cats after school is remotely the same as what kids are being exposed to now ? The guidance clearly says developments in this tech has caused more harm. 

Youtube kids is considered social media. And many of its videos & AI slops are designed to be addictive and can cause cognitive harm. Many parents think it’s safe. 
 

Some people also watched too much TV 30/40 years ago. I’m not saying it was a golden age

 But we socialised more, played on the streets more and weren’t as screens focused. And there were less problems in schools with focus & attention & kids mental health.

Not sure what point you’re trying to make ? 

[royal white]

32 minutes ago, London Wanderer said:

So if you read it why are you arguing watching news round & thunder cats after school is remotely the same as what kids are being exposed to now ? The guidance clearly says developments in this tech has caused more harm. 

Youtube kids is considered social media. And many of its videos & AI slops are designed to be addictive and can cause cognitive harm. Many parents think it’s safe. 
 

Some people also watched too much TV 30/40 years ago. I’m not saying it was a golden age

 But we socialised more, played on the streets more and weren’t as screens focused. And there were less problems in schools with focus & attention & kids mental health.

Not sure what point you’re trying to make ? 

My point is many kids had much more than an hour screen time 30-40 years ago.

[Cheese]

It's all about the screen - not what's on it, apparently. Thick as pig shit.

[Zico]

Nothing to see in Gorton

 

[royal white]

Utter woke nonsense 

 

 

[Jol_BWFC]

5 hours ago, royal white said:

Utter woke nonsense 

 

 

Embarrassing for Farage. You know it’s bad when they felt the need to apologise about his appearance at Portman Road, but not Barry Knight’s.

[Zico]

5 hours ago, royal white said:

Utter woke nonsense 

 

 

I'm no fan of Farage, he's a cunt 

But that's a bit much

"Hurt and pain" 

I'm sure plenty of their fans support Farage too

Though I hope they are enraged by this as well

[kent_white]

1 hour ago, Zico said:

I'm no fan of Farage, he's a cunt 

But that's a bit much

"Hurt and pain" 

I'm sure plenty of their fans support Farage too

Though I hope they are enraged by this as well

The people who have previously been on record as saying 'politics should have no place in football' are no doubt up in arms about letting Farage do a photo op at a football club? 😁

I'm with you though. "Hurt and pain" makes me feel a bit nauseated. 

[Marc505]

15 minutes ago, kent_white said:

The people who have previously been on record as saying 'politics should have no place in football' are no doubt up in arms about letting Farage do a photo op at a football club? 😁

I'm with you though. "Hurt and pain" makes me feel a bit nauseated. 

He said it himself not so long back, didn't he?

[kent_white]

36 minutes ago, Marc505 said:

He said it himself not so long back, didn't he?

Who Farage? Quite possibly - I'm not so sure. It sounds like the kind of thing he'd say though? 

[London Wanderer]

12 hours ago, royal white said:

My point is many kids had much more than an hour screen time 30-40 years ago.

You’ve completely missed the point & the huge changes in tech. Thats after me just pointing it out & the reasoning being there in the guidance you said you’d read. 

Algorithms, AI, social media, things purposely being designed to be addictive. 
 

Young minds can’t cope. 

I’m sure plenty people watched too much telly 30 years ago. But a bit of Grange Hill & Blue Peter is hardly the same as what’s going on now.
 

 Nothing wrong with letting your kids enjoy a bit of tv now either.
 

 

[frank_spencer]

Kids telly when we were kids was 2-3 hours a day in the front room after school. Tablets and phones means kids can be glued to screens from the moment they wake up til they fall asleep often unmonitored content wise.

I always considered myself quite tech savvy and a screen addict. Talking to my lad has been an eye opener as to how much some kids spend on there. He's got one mate that no matter what time of the day he goes on the Xbox he's already on it. Be that 1st thing in the morning or later in the evening. 

[kent_white]

1 minute ago, frank_spencer said:

Kids telly when we were kids was 2-3 hours a day in the front room after school. Tablets and phones means kids can be glued to screens from the moment they wake up til they fall asleep often unmonitored content wise.

I always considered myself quite tech savvy and a screen addict. Talking to my lad has been an eye opener as to how much some kids spend on there. He's got one mate that no matter what time of the day he goes on the Xbox he's already on it. Be that 1st thing in the morning or later in the evening. 

Yeah we struggle with our 11 year old. The problem is like has been described on here. Those algorithms are designed to just make human beings endlessly scroll. Half the time of you ask my lad what he's watching he can't even really tell you. We've got everything locked down onto kids - but even so it's massive brain rot and makes me feel like a bad parent. 

[frank_spencer]

Just now, kent_white said:

Yeah we struggle with our 11 year old. The problem is like has been described on here. Those algorithms are designed to just make human beings endlessly scroll. Half the time of you ask my lad what he's watching he can't even really tell you. We've got everything locked down onto kids - but even so it's massive brain rot and makes me feel like a bad parent. 

We're lucky that my lad loves coding so is usually making stuff on Scratch or creating stuff on Minecraft or Roblox to show his mates when they play together. Managed to avoid the minefield of playing on line with strange adults.

He got me to create an account for a game called Rec Room the other week. It asked for my date of birth, I then had a moral dilemma as to what would be more noncey putting a fake DOB to be a kid or putting in my actual one and being a 43 year old man on the game! Put my real one in and now I'm probably on a watch list 😆

[Marc505]

55 minutes ago, kent_white said:

Who Farage? Quite possibly - I'm not so sure. It sounds like the kind of thing he'd say though? 

Two days ago?! 

 

 

 

[royal white]

25 minutes ago, London Wanderer said:

You’ve completely missed the point & the huge changes in tech. Thats after me just pointing it out & the reasoning being there in the guidance you said you’d read. 

Algorithms, AI, social media, things purposely being designed to be addictive. 
 

Young minds can’t cope. 

I’m sure plenty people watched too much telly 30 years ago. But a bit of Grange Hill & Blue Peter is hardly the same as what’s going on now.
 

 Nothing wrong with letting your kids enjoy a bit of tv now either.
 

 

And I’ll tell you the big announcement that you’re happy about will probably make fuck all difference to anything, the majority of us knew before any announcement that to much screen time is bad however we allow it, that’s to ourselves and our kids. 

[London Wanderer]

12 minutes ago, royal white said:

And I’ll tell you the big announcement that you’re happy about will probably make fuck all difference to anything, the majority of us knew before any announcement that to much screen time is bad however we allow it, that’s to ourselves and our kids. 

I think having updated guidance is important - I think most responsible parents were doing the right thing and knew too much screen time was bad- as you say.

But the changes in tech have been huge. And I think a lot of good parents thought a bit of ipad time pre two years old was okay. Or that platforms like Youtube kids were safe. Some people will change their parenting as a result.

I think this guidance will have an impact. It will also lead to changes in legislation. Just this week we've had meta lose a monumental case. We're on our way to banning social media for under 16s as well - which is a hugely positive thing. 

Won't be a magic bullet - things won't improve overnight. Tech companies will still use their powers to influence and lobby.

But it's positive news - so yes i am happy about it  x 

[kent_white]

26 minutes ago, Marc505 said:

Two days ago?! 

 

 

 

🤣🤣 - good old Nige eh? 😁

[bolty58]

11 hours ago, kent_white said:

🤣🤣 - good old Nige eh? 😁

Absolutely. I'm just waiting for his next "Well you're not laughing now are you?".

[Sweep]

11 hours ago, bolty58 said:

Absolutely. I'm just waiting for his next "Well you're not laughing now are you?".

As long as the end result is better than last time he said it though.....