jules_darby Posted May 29, 2019 Share Posted May 29, 2019 4 hours ago, miamiwhite said: Thanks for the patronisation fella, but I’m referring to the quote re lack of political commitment in fighting corruption, the meagre amount of money spent on tackling corruption and how a chapter into institutional corruption was dropped. Hope you understand my thoughts now. I do and I appreciate the reasoned explanation, but I do not believe for one second that the article points to the EU as being the cause of, or the block in stopping, the corruption within the EU. It finds no direct link; it just says the level of corruption is huge within the EU. Without the EU, no doubt it would find it great “in Europe”. I do believe you saw what you wanted in it, and it’s a great example of confirmation bias. But that’s just my humble opinion and trust me I’m not patronising you, I have a lot of time for you from when we’ve met However, if you fancy a straightener we have been lacking on here in a few weeks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter RONNIE PHILLIPS Posted May 29, 2019 Site Supporter Share Posted May 29, 2019 Why does it always have to be a straightener? Surely the occasional gayer is acceptable in these enlightened times 😊 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miamiwhite Posted May 29, 2019 Author Share Posted May 29, 2019 1 hour ago, jules_darby said: I do and I appreciate the reasoned explanation, but I do not believe for one second that the article points to the EU as being the cause of, or the block in stopping, the corruption within the EU. It finds no direct link; it just says the level of corruption is huge within the EU. Without the EU, no doubt it would find it great “in Europe”. I do believe you saw what you wanted in it, and it’s a great example of confirmation bias. But that’s just my humble opinion and trust me I’m not patronising you, I have a lot of time for you from when we’ve met However, if you fancy a straightener we have been lacking on here in a few weeks I’ll straighten your gammy knee in one fell swoop Apologies for the late reply, I’ve been to the shop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 Adonis again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bolty58 Posted May 30, 2019 Members Share Posted May 30, 2019 18 minutes ago, boltondiver said: Adonis again I would never tire of punching that lisping twat. What a deplorable man he is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 3 minutes ago, bolty58 said: I would never tire of punching that lisping twat. What a deplorable man he is. · 11h There is a strong case for the BBC to be in the dock alongside Johnson, since it provided the platform for his promises to become common currency Deluded cunt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farrelli Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 26 minutes ago, boltondiver said: · 11h There is a strong case for the BBC to be in the dock alongside Johnson, since it provided the platform for his promises to become common currency Deluded cunt I was at the Hay festival to hear John Simpson interviewed on Tuesday which was excellent. He said a similar thing in that he regretted that politicians (on both sides of brexit) were not taken to task during the campaign. He added that this was a major flaw in the journalistic approach during the referendum. It allowed lies/deception to be routinely trotted out without fear of contradiction. I agree with that appraisal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ani Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 The campaign on both sides like much of politics was all about slogans and sound bites. Farage is excellent at trotting out headlines that do not have any substance ( that is a compliment to him btw). One of the tired lines for a second referendum is that people did not have a clear view of what Leave meant. Well that is the fault of Remain. They trotted out little of substance and never challenged the headlines from the other side. Where was the debate on the Irish border for instance ? How we backfill the jobs done by EU immigrants ? Pharmaceutical testing ? Financial services passporting ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bwfcfan5 Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 2 minutes ago, Ani said: The campaign on both sides like much of politics was all about slogans and sound bites. Farage is excellent at trotting out headlines that do not have any substance ( that is a compliment to him btw). One of the tired lines for a second referendum is that people did not have a clear view of what Leave meant. Well that is the fault of Remain. They trotted out little of substance and never challenged the headlines from the other side. Where was the debate on the Irish border for instance ? How we backfill the jobs done by EU immigrants ? Pharmaceutical testing ? Financial services passporting ? All those things were brought up and dismissed as "project fear"...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ani Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 Just now, bwfcfan5 said: All those things were brought up and dismissed as "project fear"...... No Project Fear was the sky will fall in and talk about immeasurable economic impact Remain did not push the ‘real’ issues enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moon boy Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 23 minutes ago, Ani said: No Project Fear was the sky will fall in and talk about immeasurable economic impact Remain did not push the ‘real’ issues enough. If you are a U.K. citizen and you are entitled to a vote it doesn’t matter if you’ve never read a paper in your life or watched tv and you are thick as pigshit, your vote is as valid as anyone else’s and is worth the same Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Cheese Posted May 30, 2019 Site Supporter Share Posted May 30, 2019 39 minutes ago, Ani said: No Project Fear was the sky will fall in and talk about immeasurable economic impact Remain did not push the ‘real’ issues enough. ANY argument that we'd be even slightly worse off was dismissed as "Project Fear" by Leave campaigners. Then when these arguments started to become reality, they re-wrote history and started saying "it was never about money or jobs". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bwfcfan5 Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 23 minutes ago, Cheese said: ANY argument that we'd be even slightly worse off was dismissed as "Project Fear" by Leave campaigners. Then when these arguments started to become reality, they re-wrote history and started saying "it was never about money or jobs". Or - when in doubt blame remainers for the mess they told you would happen. Its a classic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 Bloody hell, the patronising twins in tandem! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Cheese Posted May 30, 2019 Site Supporter Share Posted May 30, 2019 Do any of you "No Deal" Loons care to explain how Rory Stewart is wrong? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salford Trotter Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 10 minutes ago, Cheese said: Do any of you "No Deal" Loons care to explain how Rory Stewart is wrong? It'll make no difference Cheese, their fingers are still stuck in their ears. I've quoted Minford recently on here but just get the typical remoaner/project fear response despite the fact he is a leaver. No Leaver wants to acknowledge the disaster we are facing if we go with No Deal. The world's 5th largest economy on the same terms as Afganistan... Good grief surely we are better than that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent_white Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 25 minutes ago, Cheese said: Do any of you "No Deal" Loons care to explain how Rory Stewart is wrong? Easy. He's a traitor and I wouldn't want the likes of him fighting alongside me in the trenches. Or something? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 40 minutes ago, Cheese said: Do any of you "No Deal" Loons care to explain how Rory Stewart is wrong? Notwithstanding everything, he doesn't seem to have moved away from Theresa's (shite) deal, which he supported all the way. So, he is living in unreality, as that ship was holed before it sailed. Lostock loon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Cheese Posted May 30, 2019 Site Supporter Share Posted May 30, 2019 Just now, boltondiver said: Notwithstanding everything, he doesn't seem to have moved away from Theresa's (shite) deal, which he supported all the way. So, he is living in unreality, as that ship was holed before it sailed. Lostock loon. Can you explain how what he said is wrong then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 13 minutes ago, Cheese said: Can you explain how what he said is wrong then? Of course you would agree his analysis You and he both want to stay in the EU Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Cheese Posted May 30, 2019 Site Supporter Share Posted May 30, 2019 7 minutes ago, boltondiver said: Of course you would agree his analysis You and he both want to stay in the EU He wants to Leave. As you know, I don't agree with him on that at all. Can you explain what is wrong about what he said? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birch-chorley Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 From what I can see he’s saying WTO is a complete bag of shit vs free trade, in sure most sane people would agree He then goes on to say that we could spend years trying to get from WTO to a new deal but the key issues will be the same, so why fuck about wasting years when we can just take a deal now and move on I think he’s right, it seems a pragmatic approach to me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted May 30, 2019 Moderators Share Posted May 30, 2019 1 minute ago, birch-chorley said: From what I can see he’s saying WTO is a complete bag of shit vs free trade, in sure most sane people would agree He then goes on to say that we could spend years trying to get from WTO to a new deal but the key issues will be the same, so why fuck about wasting years when we can just take a deal now and move on I think he’s right, it seems a pragmatic approach to me I could vote for him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salford Trotter Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 6 minutes ago, birch-chorley said: From what I can see he’s saying WTO is a complete bag of shit vs free trade, in sure most sane people would agree He then goes on to say that we could spend years trying to get from WTO to a new deal but the key issues will be the same, so why fuck about wasting years when we can just take a deal now and move on I think he’s right, it seems a pragmatic approach to me The silence is deafening, just shows what a reality check this is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Cheese Posted May 30, 2019 Site Supporter Share Posted May 30, 2019 9 minutes ago, birch-chorley said: From what I can see he’s saying WTO is a complete bag of shit vs free trade, in sure most sane people would agree He then goes on to say that we could spend years trying to get from WTO to a new deal but the key issues will be the same, so why fuck about wasting years when we can just take a deal now and move on I think he’s right, it seems a pragmatic approach to me But Brextremists are convinced that the Withdrawal Agreement doesn't take us out of the EU, even though it does. They're cultists. Reality matters not a jot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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