Politics

[birch-chorley]

Complete mess, another hung parliament, more deadlock 

Should have taken TM’s deal when we had a chance 

[Tonge moor green jacket]

5 hours ago, boltondiver said:

Why should he?

Quite. EU have said no negotiations, though through personal discussions he has got a crack in the door.

Until he can negotiate properly, no point in doing so.

[Tonge moor green jacket]

5 hours ago, Spider said:

Deal: Definition

noun: an agreement entered into by two or more parties for their mutual benefit, especially in a business or political context.

A no deal situation with subsequent reciprocal arrangements where appropriate and sensible is very different to a whole withdrawal agreement.

Not ideal I don't think.

Anyway, 17 labour MPs wanting to revisit TM deal. May have been better to have taken it.

Quite possible nowt changes. Except farage has more of an influence again.

[Guest]

Chuck em in the Thames

[Salford Trotter]

4 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

So let's carry on in limbo then. Remainers really not grasping the importance of the situation. 

Industry crying out for a resolution, but that's ok because a minority of folk don't like a legitimate vote.

Remainers understand the implications of leaving without a deal as companies will go to the wall and people would lose their jobs as a result. UK Industry recognises we are not ready for a reckless No Deal and want to leave in a managed way 

 

 

[Casino]

20 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

So let's carry on in limbo then. Remainers really not grasping the importance of the situation. 

Industry crying out for a resolution, but that's ok because a minority of folk don't like a legitimate vote.

Don't tell me about what industry needs

I know what industry doesn't need

And that's no deal

[Escobarp]

No they simply wish to remain at all costs to democracy. I honestly just wish they would admit this and admit they do not intend to honour the vote at any cost. At least then I would regain respect for the honesty shown rather than this back door shit housery

no deal is a terrible option. But removing it is even worse as it completely undermines the whole process. 

Edited September 3, 2019 by Escobarp

[Spider]

Brexit has already caused enough damage for our industry and it hasn’t even fucking happened yet.

This constant and pathetic pissing about just makes it worse.

they can all fuck off.

[Casino]

8 minutes ago, boltondiver said:

Chuck em in the Thames

I thought you lot wanted parliamentary sovereignty

You've got it, and tonight you lost

Suck it up

[Guest]

Just now, Casino said:

I thought you lot wanted parliamentary sovereignty

You've got it, and tonight you lost

Suck it up

Eh?

parliament delegated it to the people in the referendum 

 

[miamiwhite]

4 minutes ago, Casino said:

Don't tell me about what industry needs

I know what industry doesn't need

And that's no deal

Stop being such a self centred twat for once and think of other industries that will benefit from it.

[Casino]

Just now, miamiwhite said:

Stop being such a self centred twat for once and think of other industries that will benefit from it.

Why the fcuk should i be bothered about other folk

I look after myself

Just like Rees Fcuking mogg and bozo

[Jol_BWFC]

Will someone please go and knock on Paul Hanley’s door. 

Cheers.

[Guest]

12 minutes ago, Salford Trotter said:

Remainers understand the implications of leaving without a deal as companies will go to the wall and people would lose their jobs as a result. UK Industry recognises we are not ready for a reckless No Deal and want to leave in a managed way 

 

 

Distilling into a narrow economic perspective, as usual.

[Ani]

2 minutes ago, boltondiver said:

Eh?

parliament delegated it to the people in the referendum 

 

No the referendum was advisory and non binding. 

At the time of that vote virtually no one even contemplated No deal. 

These are facts. 

[Tonge moor green jacket]

8 minutes ago, Casino said:

Don't tell me about what industry needs

I know what industry doesn't need

And that's no deal

Don't entirely disagree.

But they need no change even less.

Get ready for Nigel's lot.

[Salford Trotter]

8 minutes ago, boltondiver said:

Distilling into a narrow economic perspective, as usual.

Not at all, this is about protecting jobs and allowing businesses to function properly but if you think that is "narrow" then you have a different view of the economy than most folk

Edited September 3, 2019 by Salford Trotter

[miamiwhite]

4 minutes ago, Casino said:

Why the fcuk should i be bothered about other folk

I look after myself

Just like Rees Fcuking mogg and bozo

Hmmmm indeed.

[Tonge moor green jacket]

4 minutes ago, Casino said:

Why the fcuk should i be bothered about other folk

I look after myself

Just like Rees Fcuking mogg and bozo

That's what 52% of folk did. You've not stopped moaning since. Suck it up.

[Mounts Kipper]

5 minutes ago, Ani said:

No the referendum was advisory and non binding. 

At the time of that vote virtually no one even contemplated No deal. 

These are facts. 

The government said whatever the result they would respect it.  It’s quite clear what remainers game is, get no deal off the table, guaranteeing worst possible deal, take that to the people in order to reverse the referendum,  and that’s why it’s a shit show, let’s have a GE so we can pass judgement... and we will. Bring it on. 

Edited September 3, 2019 by Mounts Kipper

[Ani]

1 minute ago, Mounts Kipper said:

The government said whatever the result they would respect it.  It’s quite clear what remainers game is, get no deal off the table, guaranteeing worst possible deal, take that to the people in order to reverse the referendum,  and that’s why it’s a shit show, let’s have a GE so we can pass judgement... and we will. Bring it on. 

So you are saying there were lies told in the election ? 

Lets be very clear no deal has only been put on the table by likes of JRM it was not there before. 

[mickbrown]

Well this is going well

[Salford Trotter]

4 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said:

The government said whatever the result they would respect it.  It’s quite clear what remainers game is, get no deal off the table, guaranteeing worst possible deal, take that to the people in order to reverse the referendum,  and that’s why it’s a shit show, let’s have a GE so we can pass judgement... and we will. Bring it on. 

pity your great leader didn't think the same at the time

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-eu-referendum-36306681

[L/H White]

1 minute ago, mickbrown said:

Well this is going well

Brilliant ain't it, who said we'd be out in months?

First PM called it on and bottled it, 2nd was a waste of space, and I've no words for bozza. 

Comical, shambolic, mess. 

[Tonge moor green jacket]

4 minutes ago, Ani said:

No the referendum was advisory and non binding. 

At the time of that vote virtually no one even contemplated No deal. 

These are facts. 

Irrelevant. Parliament voted to have a referendum, then voted to enact it, and voted it into law.

What type of deal wasn't talked about, perhaps it should have been. But it wasn't, and therefore incumbent upon government.

Parliament can and has changed its mind, which it is entitled to do.

As escobarp put it, in doing so they have reneged on what they promised without standing on that ticket.

Consequently the government plays dirty.

Bag of wank all round.

At least the conservative party will now start to align behind a policy, as MPs are booted out.

Better for a general election.