Kenny has come out with another one of his columns.

Again he’s asking for 20k crowds.

 

This time, he says it can help add 3 million to our budget, for the transfer window.

 

A bit bonkers isn’t it ?

 

 

http://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/sport/wanderers/15701428.Ken_Anderson_asks_for_fans__39__help_to_add___3million_to_Wanderers__39__January_spending/

Edited January 7, 20197 yr by Horwich

55 minutes ago, burnden said:

Kens latest note

 

https://www.bwfc.co.uk/news/2018/october/a-note-from-the-chairman4/

He settled for less than the claim, even though they had no evidence?

 

bit strange

2 minutes ago, boltondiver said:

He settled for less than the claim, even though they had no evidence?

 

bit strange

He said they settled to avoid a legal battle....that no doubt would have had some characters up in arms - given if we lost the bill would be large and we'd be in administration!

2 minutes ago, bwfcfan5 said:

He said they settled to avoid a legal battle....that no doubt would have had some characters up in arms - given if we lost the bill would be large and we'd be in administration!

But if there's no evidence, how can he lose?

Does seem a bit odd.

1 minute ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

But if there's no evidence, how can he lose?

Does seem a bit odd.

My guess is that it isn't their involvement in question as that will be documented in a contract or agreement - but a question of whether they earned a consultancy or "finders fee" or whatever. I suspect that is less clear cut and whilst they may not have offered Ken evidence he was happy with that does not mean they wouldn't have something that would persuade a judge. 

In his Q&A Ken said "they didn't even know how much the Macron contract was worth". Which anecdotally sounds like they weren't involved but if they were, for example, simply finding sponsors and getting them in front of PG, the fee might be due and it might be entirely appropriate for them not to have intimate knowledge of the deal.

 

 

 

32 minutes ago, bwfcfan5 said:

My guess is that it isn't their involvement in question as that will be documented in a contract or agreement - but a question of whether they earned a consultancy or "finders fee" or whatever. I suspect that is less clear cut and whilst they may not have offered Ken evidence he was happy with that does not mean they wouldn't have something that would persuade a judge. 

In his Q&A Ken said "they didn't even know how much the Macron contract was worth". Which anecdotally sounds like they weren't involved but if they were, for example, simply finding sponsors and getting them in front of PG, the fee might be due and it might be entirely appropriate for them not to have intimate knowledge of the deal.

 

 

 

Sometime the money taken to settle is less then the money you would have to spend on time and effort just to win, yes you win but you end up still losing money, Ken as done what he keep saying he will do and do what's best for Bolton Wanderers , in this case save us some money

 

and seeing as things were seemingly being done in a less than business like way pre KA, and PG and ED cant shed any light on it, better to get shut of it

 

 

anyway, cracking piece Kenneth

who is this kieran maguire

 

one non crank on the benmongcomments is frensic fred

if youre on here, would you make yourself known - privately if you wish

2 hours ago, bwfcfan5 said:

My guess is that it isn't their involvement in question as that will be documented in a contract or agreement - but a question of whether they earned a consultancy or "finders fee" or whatever. I suspect that is less clear cut and whilst they may not have offered Ken evidence he was happy with that does not mean they wouldn't have something that would persuade a judge. 

In his Q&A Ken said "they didn't even know how much the Macron contract was worth". Which anecdotally sounds like they weren't involved but if they were, for example, simply finding sponsors and getting them in front of PG, the fee might be due and it might be entirely appropriate for them not to have intimate knowledge of the deal.

 

 

 

Are you by any chance spouting bollocks?

every chance

but its a theory and hes not getting paid to get to the truth, unlike serial bullshitter Lies

43 minutes ago, Casino said:

every chance

but its a theory and hes not getting paid to get to the truth, unlike serial bullshitter Lies

Which one is the most likely to be sued for spouting such bollocks? 

1 hour ago, Casino said:

and seeing as things were seemingly being done in a less than business like way pre KA, and PG and ED cant shed any light on it, better to get shut of it

 

 

anyway, cracking piece Kenneth

who is this kieran maguire

 

one non crank on the benmongcomments is frensic fred

if youre on here, would you make yourself known - privately if you wish

Maguire is professor of football finance from Liverpool uni. Maguire tweeted that Anderson and his son received 650k in 2017 while the median in the championship was 135k.

Edited October 8, 20187 yr by Mounts Kipper

Bolton owner Ken Anderson says the club "probably" have the best finances in the Championship despite a winding-up petition over unpaid taxes.

The order was issued by HM Revenue & Customs last Thursday but Anderson says the money owed will be paid this week.

The Trotters avoided administration in September after ex-owner Eddie Davies' £5m loan four days before his death.

"I don't think it [finances] is a mess at all - I think it's a big improvement on where it was," Anderson said.

Has football moved on from the financial Wild West?
He told BBC Radio Manchester: "I would say that the club is probably in the best financial position of any club in the Championship."

The money from Davies was used to pay off Bolton's main creditor, BluMarble Capital Ltd, who had rejected a first repayment offer.

Anderson said two parties interested in investing in Bolton have provided proof of funds, including an American consortium.

"The right offer is the offer that means, going forward, the club is debt-free," said Anderson, who has been told the club is worth £30m.

"There [would be] investment there to bring in new players, help us compete and try and get back into the Premier League."

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/45791757

 

 

   

Edited October 8, 20187 yr by DomRepWanderer

He's not a professor 

Well not according to his own biography 

4 minutes ago, DirtySanchez said:

He's not a professor 

Well not according to his own biography 

Correct it says lecturer on his twitter profile. 

Iles is one strike away from a ban I reckon. Wouldn’t surprise me if he allowed the BN in to the club but not Iles

that would be highly amusing 

5 minutes ago, barrycowdrill said:

Iles is one strike away from a ban I reckon. Wouldn’t surprise me if he allowed the BN in to the club but not Iles

that would be highly amusing 

Hope he gets chucked on reporting about garden gnome thefts in little hulton the massive fuckin wally.

He backed the wrong horse from the off and has tried his best over and over again to get one over the current regime. 

He’s fucked himself well and truly. 

This Maguire chap

https://twitter.com/KieranMaguire

 

 

Plenty other tweets too

Seems more clued up than most

Appears to not take KA's word at face value and questions and compares and does graphs

1 minute ago, ZicoKelly said:

This Maguire chap

https://twitter.com/KieranMaguire

 

 

Plenty other tweets too

Seems more clued up than most

Appears to not take KA's word at face value and questions and compares and does graphs

And in turn hoiks the twitter divs in to firth and co’s massive agenda.

The only graphs that matter are the ones that shows the club moving up the league 1 table and in to the championship and the one showing the outgoings and losses going through the floor. 

 

1 minute ago, gonzo said:

 

The only graphs that matter are the ones that shows the club moving up the league 1 table and in to the championship and the one showing the outgoings and losses going through the floor. 

 

If he's managed to reduce running losses, then I've no issue with him getting paid.

The reason I mention frensic fred is because he's miles more clued up on finances than me

I'm sure he said there was a 500k payment to inner circle which sceptics have as being KAs wage while Fred suggests it could be for all sorts of things other than wages

Guess we would need to see the accounts for inner circle

3 minutes ago, Casino said:

The reason I mention frensic fred is because he's miles more clued up on finances than me

I'm sure he said there was a 500k payment to inner circle which sceptics have as being KAs wage while Fred suggests it could be for all sorts of things other than wages

Whatever it is it’s right of our bottom line. Given the money he’s saved us you could say it’s worth it. 

That’s the whole issue. Nobody knows.

People just have this idea KA paid himself £500k to spunk on yachts and brasses for doing fuck all.

nobody knows the amount of staff, size of the company or what work has been carried out.

and if it’s cost £500k or whatever to get us where we are now then like Traf alludes to, who gives a fuck.

Shite hawks like Ben Amos raped the club for millions and nobody bats an eyelid.

If Marc Iles and co want answers KA will give you them. 

This whole tit for tat bullshit could have all been avoided. The frenzy it’s created with the idiots on twitter is ridiculous and Marc Iles and his gang are to blame entirely. 

 

I have 2 theories about Iles........first is that he reads the absolute drivel against the club spouted on the BN comment pages, thinks that that little group of crackpots are representative of all Bolton supporters, & so writes any old nonsense against the club knowing that they will lap it up

or....that he's actually trying to get himself banned from the club so that he can portray himself as a crusading local journalist fearlessly standing up to the evil owners of the club.

Either way, except to those with an agenda against  the club or KA, Iles has lost any credibilty as an impartial reporter, which is a shame, as we now have to read KA's notes to try & get an idea of what is going on

I take some of Ken's ramblings with a large pinch of salt.

I've no doubt he has the club sailing very close to the wind on all things financially speaking and he has some ropey history. 

He's been the only show in town for years though and has the club on a much more even keel than it has been for donkeys. 

1 hour ago, Casino said:

The reason I mention frensic fred is because he's miles more clued up on finances than me

I'm sure he said there was a 500k payment to inner circle which sceptics have as being KAs wage while Fred suggests it could be for all sorts of things other than wages

I assume by now you have seen 'Fred's' reply to you on the BN forum -

"Message to Casino on Wanderersways. No, I don't contribute to WW or any other site. I concentrate on the BN which seems to have more nitwits than ............ make up your own simile. I can't be bothered".

I have corresponded with Fred on a number of occasions in the past and have nothing but the highest regard for his intelligence, integrity, and professionalism.  

I'm not sure why he bothers to continue to allow himself to constantly be the target of the anti-Anderson nutjobs such as the likes of Shortland on the Bolton News comments section, as the paper does not mod the boards which is infested with trolls and moron's and is not fit for decent discussion (or frankly is fit for purpose at all imo).

I have several times requested him to become a regular poster over on Nuts but he has his own good reasons not to involve himself on forums.

Iirc the payment you refer to above was £625,000 and Fred's interpretation if I understood him correctly was that if you were to deduct tax from that sum, it came to an amount close enough to the sum Mr Anderson's Inner Circle bought Holdsworth's remaining shareholding from the liquidator.

Personally I'm not convinced that the actual timeline supported such a conclusion but the point that Fred was rightly making in my opinion - in the full face of the Anti-Anderson haters, was that this sum was not simply Ken 'ripping off' the club for his own benefit.

I was asked a question the other day on here as to if I used twitter and if so why I didn't take on the anti-Anderson moonmen?  Well the answer is simply, they are either to entrenched in their mindset or frankly to dumb (or full of hatred) to know what they are even saying at times, then what is the point of trying at all?  You simply can't reason with the lynch mob mentality - they simply don't want to know

Fair play to Fred but I do think he's flogging a dead horse trying to speak to those who do not want to hear over on the Bolton News.

Personally I think Iles should either be professional and stick to being a reporter for the paper or jack in his job and be the twitter focal point he seems to be trying to become - his latest tweet being -

"Just spotted Ken Anderson's quote to @BBCRMsport... "I would say that the club is probably in the best financial position of any club in the Championship." Thoughts on this?"

He simply can't report impartially if he's surrounding himself with all his twitter anti-Anderson mates all the time in my opinion

He should be one thing or the other - he shouldn't try to be both.

It just can't be done.