This Russian Spy Malarkey

[miamiwhite]

Start again is rumoured to be a Pro-EU party from across the three main parties. 

 

Not sure you'd be particularly happy with that. It would numbers wise (if MP's could be persuaded) be very powerful indeed. 

 

Of course, it won't happen, because like all these things, the risk is far greater than the reward individually.

 

Aye, it’s Pro-EU without doubt. I agree too re the likelihood of it not happening. But it would be very interesting if it did.

[Guest]

Aye, it’s Pro-EU without doubt. I agree too re the likelihood of it not happening. But it would be very interesting if it did.

 

It would immediately bring the government down. So would be fascinating. But then from there on a huge mess would ensue.....they'd potentially have enough support in the house to stall Brexit entirely. 

[miamiwhite]

It would immediately bring the government down. So would be fascinating. But then from there on a huge mess would ensue.....they'd potentially have enough support in the house to stall Brexit entirely.

 

Yes, it would create a whole shitstorm without doubt.

[tomski]

It would immediately bring the government down. So would be fascinating. But then from there on a huge mess would ensue.....they'd potentially have enough support in the house to stall Brexit entirely.

Surely even the staunchest remainer wouldn't want that type of khaos that would pursue?

[Guest]

Surely even the staunchest remainer wouldn't want that type of khaos that would pursue?

 

They'd want it. Not sure they'd risk their political careers over it. British politics does desperately need some sort of a shake up, for the polarised increasingly extreme right and left dominance to end and for more sensible positions in the middle to be found. Not sure currently, how that is possible though.

[tomski]

They'd want it. Not sure they'd risk their political careers over it. British politics does desperately need some sort of a shake up, for the polarised increasingly extreme right and left dominance to end and for more sensible positions in the middle to be found. Not sure currently, how that is possible though.

That's my concern. I've never disliked both sides so much. I just can't see a shake up being good for anybody right now.

[bolty58]

Can't be arsed trawling through this thread. Quite frankly, the TV news coverage has been so intense, I didn't want to read more about it.

 

I am interested though in why Corbyn refuses to condemn Russia - even at the expense of raising the ire of his colleagues. Convinced the remnants of the KGB have something on him from his days as a Communist Bloc sympathiser and he is forced to go easy on them on threat of exposure which would not only finish him politically but possibly end up with him behind bars for treason.

 

His popular label of 'conviction politician' could then change to 'convicted politician'.  What's 2 or 3 letters in the whole scheme of things?

[MickyD]

I am interested though in why Corbyn refuses to condemn Russia - even at the expense of raising the ire of his colleagues. Convinced the remnants of the KGB have something on him from his days as a Communist Bloc sympathiser and he is forced to go easy on them on threat of exposure which would not only finish him politically but possibly end up with him behind bars for treason.

 

His popular label of 'conviction politician' could then change to 'convicted politician'. What's 2 or 3 letters in the whole scheme of things?

Maybe Cornyn was selected as Labour leader by Russia? His rise up the ranks to become leader wad something of a shock wasn't it?

Could it be the Tories who are doing the dodgy deals with Putin and Corbyn's position is designed to make the Conservatives the only electable party?

[bolty58]

Maybe Cornyn was selected as Labour leader by Russia? His rise up the ranks to become leader wad something of a shock wasn't it?

Could it be the Tories who are doing the dodgy deals with Putin and Corbyn's position is designed to make the Conservatives the only electable party?

 

 

They are anyway IMO.

 

Anyone who'd vote for the other side would have to have rocks in their head.

[frank_spencer]

Can't be arsed trawling through this thread. Quite frankly, the TV news coverage has been so intense, I didn't want to read more about it.

 

I am interested though in why Corbyn refuses to condemn Russia - even at the expense of raising the ire of his colleagues. Convinced the remnants of the KGB have something on him from his days as a Communist Bloc sympathiser and he is forced to go easy on them on threat of exposure which would not only finish him politically but possibly end up with him behind bars for treason.

 

His popular label of 'conviction politician' could then change to 'convicted politician'. What's 2 or 3 letters in the whole scheme of things?

If any politician have refused to condemn Russia it isn't Corbyn.

 

For all his faults bit being critical of Russia isn't one of them

[MalcolmW]

Can't be arsed trawling through this thread. Quite frankly, the TV news coverage has been so intense, I didn't want to read more about it.

 

I am interested though in why Corbyn refuses to condemn Russia - even at the expense of raising the ire of his colleagues. Convinced the remnants of the KGB have something on him from his days as a Communist Bloc sympathiser and he is forced to go easy on them on threat of exposure which would not only finish him politically but possibly end up with him behind bars for treason.

 

His popular label of 'conviction politician' could then change to 'convicted politician'.  What's 2 or 3 letters in the whole scheme of things?

 

He doesn't realise that Russia is no longer Communist.

[bolty58]

He doesn't realise that Russia is no longer Communist.

 

 

Aye mate - that Chairman Mao cap suggests that he could be like that Japanese soldier on a Pacific Island who didn't know the war was over for many years.

 

Still living in the 'glorious' Soviet era.

[madthatter]

Can't say Boris' comparison of  the Nazi/German Olympic games and the World cup is a smart move either.

 

How . . .  diplomatic

[Boby Brno]

After the backing of various major nations to the UK’s claim that Russia is responsible, Boris is acting like a bullied kid whose bigger brother has just turned up.

“What are you going to do now big nose, eh, eh”

[madthatter]

After the backing of various major nations to the UK’s claim that Russia is responsible, Boris is acting like a bullied kid whose bigger brother has just turned up.

“What are you going to do now big nose, eh, eh”

 

Aye.   

 

Made me laugh hearing the Russian representative saying how it could have been us at it was so close to where we make chemical weapons.  Said that might not have been a coincidence.  Like something from an episode of Archer 

 

Bionic Boris 

 

Edited March 22, 2018 by madthatter

[Tonge moor green jacket]

Can't say Boris' comparison of  the Nazi/German Olympic games and the World cup is a smart move either.

 

How . . .  diplomatic

Probably not the best thing to do but he wasn't the first person to say it and was responding to it.

Perhaps a bit more specific would have been better, but lets be honest; there's truth in it.

Said it on here ages back that Putin is arguably the most dangerous fucker on the planet.

It seems to have rattled the Russians somewhat; though it would inevitably be elaborated upon by them to appeal to the Russian people.

In that respect it was probably better to say nowt.

[Boby Brno]

Why can’t Putin be as honest as Steve Smith?

[Underpants]

If i was a Russian turncoat living in Moscow I would be very worried. I wouldn't put it past the Russians to publicly take out one of their double agents and blame it on us. YHIHF.

[Tonge moor green jacket]

US and Europe have unleashed a wave of expulsions of diplomats. Its a great example of nations sticking together. Well done those in the background coordinating everything.

It should send a clear message to Putin and his cronies.

 

Be interesting to see what sort of changes some European countries make to their energy supplies to avoid an over reliance on (Russian) gas.

[Sweep]

 

Be interesting to see what sort of changes some European countries make to their energy supplies to avoid an over reliance on (Russian) gas.

 

it will, doesn't Germany get something like 35% of it's gas, and that number is rising year on year, from Russia. It will be interesting to see what happens if the Russians ever did decide to turn the tap off

[Tonge moor green jacket]

it will, doesn't Germany get something like 35% of it's gas, and that number is rising year on year, from Russia. It will be interesting to see what happens if the Russians ever did decide to turn the tap off

Who blinks first!

 

A useful time to chuck out folk; as we approach summer and heating requirements down.

 

I'm sure Miami will have some advice on which wind turbine manufacturers have decent investment potential.

[gonzo]

Did I not read on here it takes about ten years for a wind turbine to pay the cost of building the fucker.

[Tonge moor green jacket]

I suppose economies of scale will make them cheaper, but any generation source takes time to recoup its cost. Trouble with some of the renewables is a lack of efficiency; but I guess that'll be a price worth paying.

[miamiwhite]

Who blinks first!

 

A useful time to chuck out folk; as we approach summer and heating requirements down.

 

I'm sure Miami will have some advice on which wind turbine manufacturers have decent investment potential.

Yes mate.....Corbyn and Abbott make smashing ones.......they’re full of hot air and wind.....

[Tonge moor green jacket]

He's had his magnet in her windings before hasn't he?