Howardroark Posted March 25, 2019 Posted March 25, 2019 For those asking how the chairman’s notes ties in with what I have suggested will happen: KA can do whatever he wants and deal with whomever he wants until April 2nd when the shares are recalled, the risk is in causing the only truly serious party to walk away.
Chrisj Posted March 25, 2019 Posted March 25, 2019 But they are also taking usual money on 1st April as well which is for future event not retrospective like the on taken on 29th March is Howard
MickyD Posted March 25, 2019 Posted March 25, 2019 5 hours ago, Popeye doyle said: Eh! Man City won the league at Maine road 40 years ago at what is now a housing estate. What point are you going to make? Are City really good because they won the league cup in the early 70s?
Jcookie Posted March 25, 2019 Posted March 25, 2019 2 minutes ago, Howardroark said: For those asking how the chairman’s notes ties in with what I have suggested will happen: KA can do whatever he wants and deal with whomever he wants until April 2nd when the shares are recalled, the risk is in causing the only truly serious party to walk away. Are you saying that the bidder is getting fed up with ken not agreeing to their deal and him trying to find someone to gazump them? When it reality it going to be very very slim in him finding an even better bid before the 3rd.. Do you think this party may put the club into admin before the 28th then?
Howardroark Posted March 25, 2019 Posted March 25, 2019 5 minutes ago, Chrisj said: But they are also taking usual money on 1st April as well which is for future event not retrospective like the on taken on 29th March is Howard We shall see
Okocha10 Posted March 25, 2019 Posted March 25, 2019 @Howardroark still dont get how he managed to blag the courts that a deal is imminent?
Howardroark Posted March 25, 2019 Posted March 25, 2019 1 minute ago, Jcookie said: Are you saying that the bidder is getting fed up with ken not agreeing to their deal and him trying to find someone to gazump them? When it reality it going to be very very slim in him finding an even better bid before the 3rd.. Do you think this party may put the club into admin before the 28th then? Correct on the first part, if that is what is happening. Admin part, no, only PBP, Ken or Brett can put the club in to admin
Howardroark Posted March 25, 2019 Posted March 25, 2019 Just now, Okocha10 said: @Howardroark still dont get how he managed to blag the courts that a deal is imminent? Remember it was BWFC who asked for the two week adjournment, that’s pretty imminent in a buyout scenario
Jcookie Posted March 25, 2019 Posted March 25, 2019 3 minutes ago, Howardroark said: Correct on the first part, if that is what is happening. Admin part, no, only PBP, Ken or Brett can put the club in to admin But my understanding is that this bidder had done a back to back deal with the Davis’s family in regards ken debt to them? What if they decide they don’t want to buy the club? Will they just take his shares and sell the club to someone else to get there debt back? Can’t they put the club into admin to get there cash back?
Jcookie Posted March 25, 2019 Posted March 25, 2019 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Chrisj said: But they are also taking usual money on 1st April as well which is for future event not retrospective like the on taken on 29th March is Howard The club can also confirm that due to the delay in collecting the payment for March, the final Direct Debit payment for the 2018/19 season, scheduled for April 1, will be taken next week as usual. “Supporters will be notified in due course, with a new collection date for April. It is like they are contradicting themselves there though, is it on the 1st? Because the next line down states they will notify us of a new date in April to cash the direct debit? Edited March 25, 2019 by Jcookie
Howardroark Posted March 25, 2019 Posted March 25, 2019 11 minutes ago, Jcookie said: But my understanding is that this bidder had done a back to back deal with the Davis’s family in regards ken debt to them? What if they decide they don’t want to buy the club? Will they just take his shares and sell the club to someone else to get there debt back? Can’t they put the club into admin to get there cash back? If Ken hasn’t sold the club to them by the 2nd they will take the shares back. If they then didn’t want to own the club they would sell it on to another party.
HR Posted March 25, 2019 Posted March 25, 2019 16 minutes ago, Okocha10 said: @Howardroark still dont get how he managed to blag the courts that a deal is imminent? The cases were dealt with in batches, hundreds going through on the same day. Not really enough time for proper consideration.
Bridger Posted March 25, 2019 Posted March 25, 2019 Howard in your opinion are we still on track with the mystery buyer ?
Howardroark Posted March 25, 2019 Posted March 25, 2019 4 minutes ago, Bridger said: Howard in your opinion are we still on track with the mystery buyer ? Yes
tyldesley_white Posted March 25, 2019 Posted March 25, 2019 24 minutes ago, HR said: The cases were dealt with in batches, hundreds going through on the same day. Not really enough time for proper consideration. 140 cases in 30 minutes I think, I did wonder how the hell the did it
Walkden White Posted March 25, 2019 Posted March 25, 2019 47 minutes ago, Jcookie said: The club can also confirm that due to the delay in collecting the payment for March, the final Direct Debit payment for the 2018/19 season, scheduled for April 1, will not be taken next week as usual. “Supporters will be notified in due course, with a new collection date for April. It is like they are contradicting themselves there though, is it on the 1st? Because the next line down states they will notify us of a new date in April to cash the direct debit? Think it must be a typo and they have missed the word 'not' out as inserted above
Zico Posted March 25, 2019 Posted March 25, 2019 1 hour ago, burnden said: KA notes https://www.bwfc.co.uk/news/2019/march/a-note-from-the-chairman3/? "We are all still confident that we can resolve the current financial issues and also retain our Championship status." I would have been more confident had he not added retaining our championship status to the things he's currently confident about
Take Hunt Off Posted March 25, 2019 Posted March 25, 2019 4 minutes ago, ZicoKelly said: "We are all still confident that we can resolve the current financial issues and also retain our Championship status." I would have been more confident had he not added retaining our championship status to the things he's currently confident about Yeh 'retaining championship status' undermines the crediblity exponentially
sleepingindian Posted March 25, 2019 Posted March 25, 2019 hi howard whats youre take on the stakeholders meeting
Mantra Posted March 25, 2019 Posted March 25, 2019 So can anyone clearly and briefly outline the available options that can happen? correct me if I’m wrong: 1. Ken sells to mystery buyer before 2nd April. 2. If Ken doesn’t sell by then, Moonshift recall the shares and sell them to mystery bidder or someone else. 3. KA, Brett or PBP put us into Admin. 4. We get liquidated because none of these happen. 5. During the 7 days it takes to appoint liquidator, parties settle and club gets sold that way. did I miss anything/misunderstand
Howardroark Posted March 25, 2019 Posted March 25, 2019 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Mantra said: So can anyone clearly and briefly outline the available options that can happen? correct me if I’m wrong: 1. Ken sells to mystery buyer before 2nd April. 2. If Ken doesn’t sell by then, Moonshift recall the shares and sell them to mystery bidder or someone else. 3. KA, Brett or PBP put us into Admin. 4. We get liquidated because none of these happen. 5. During the 7 days it takes to appoint liquidator, parties settle and club gets sold that way. did I miss anything/misunderstand Correct, Just don’t assume that administration solves anything, if a buyer can’t be found over an undefined administration period then the club can still be wound up. The buyer would need £18M up front to satisfy the debt to EFL requirements. Thats why admin isn’t really a favourable option, for anyone. The reality is that the creditors are more likely to call in the collateral on their loans to discharge the debt Edited March 25, 2019 by Howardroark A
Mantra Posted March 25, 2019 Posted March 25, 2019 2 minutes ago, Howardroark said: Correct Ok cool. And the reason Moonshift aren’t recalling the shares already is because they don’t want to spook Ken into admin?
barrycowdrill Posted March 25, 2019 Posted March 25, 2019 12 minutes ago, Mantra said: So can anyone clearly and briefly outline the available options that can happen? correct me if I’m wrong: 1. Ken sells to mystery buyer before 2nd April. 2. If Ken doesn’t sell by then, Moonshift recall the shares and sell them to mystery bidder or someone else. 3. KA, Brett or PBP put us into Admin. 4. We get liquidated because none of these happen. 5. During the 7 days it takes to appoint liquidator, parties settle and club gets sold that way. did I miss anything/misunderstand 3 minutes ago, Howardroark said: Correct Does any of the above hinder me a) shouting at Taylor for shitting himself any time the ball comes near him? b) shouting at Beevers for twatting for ball aimlessly 50 yards down the pitch? c) shouting at Ameobi for being a big lanky disinterested lazy bastard? D) shouting at Donaldson for as above but replacing lazy with shit? E) shouting at Magennis for failing to control a ball in approaching 7 months? f) shouting at Parkinson for being responsible for all of the above?
stevieb Posted March 25, 2019 Posted March 25, 2019 1 minute ago, barrycowdrill said: Does any of the above hinder me a) shouting at Taylor for shitting himself any time the ball comes near him? b) shouting at Beevers for twatting for ball aimlessly 50 yards down the pitch? c) shouting at Ameobi for being a big lanky disinterested lazy bastard? D) shouting at Donaldson for as above but replacing lazy with shit? E) shouting at Magennis for failing to control a ball in approaching 7 months? f) shouting at Parkinson for being responsible for all of the above? Yes. Option 4 means there'll be no one to shout at.
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