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2 minutes ago, boltondiver said:

So why did the UK approve the vaccine before the EU?

Somebody always has to be first. As explained elsewhere earlier this week, the UK approving first is nothing to do with us being in or out of the EU. Denmark are announcing their full approval tomorrow (apparently) and they're still in the EU

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On 03/12/2020 at 21:05, ZicoKelly said:

Mate of the Mrs

Her nan is in a care home

Sometime last week had a cough and fever and sent her to MRI without having a test first and straight onto a covid ward 

If she hasn't got it yet, she soon will

The mrs' nan was in Newcastle for a few weeks with water infection, fine, sent her to a community hospital in Alnwick to be nearer home, caught it there

She was 91, but no reason she wouldn't have lasted a few more years, but covid took all she had left inside 3 weeks 

Definitely finished her off

 

The Mrs nans mate

The story is she had chest pains and was generally unwell, so they assumed covid and stuck her on a covid ward without a test 

Turns out it was a missed heart attack

And now she's on the covid ward

 

 

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33 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Refrigeration manufacturers have been producing extra equipment as a priority for the storage of these vaccines.

Place that supplies my dog food had to have his bespoke freezer delivery delayed whilst units were made for the nhs.

 

We supply a company who make these lab freezers, they can go down to something like -86C (+/- 1C) - they're loving it at the minute, they can't make them quick enough, and they're selling them at almost five times their usual prices, which is great news for them.

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1 hour ago, Sweep said:

We supply a company who make these lab freezers, they can go down to something like -86C (+/- 1C) - they're loving it at the minute, they can't make them quick enough, and they're selling them at almost five times their usual prices, which is great news for them.

Aye- there was a photo this morning with the vaccine in storage in these freezers somewhere. 

All kept quiet though.

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Having spoken to a nurse involved in the rollout I think the alternative vaccine, which doesn`t require the specialist storage, will make this one obsolete relatively quickly.

Doses can only be mixed, given and recorded by one nurse in order to limit liability. They come in batches of just under 1000 which all need to be given within a 5 day slot so highways etc. need to be involved to control traffic. It is a bit of a logistical nightmare by all accounts and certainly not as easy as giving the flu jab.

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1 hour ago, Nowack said:

Having spoken to a nurse involved in the rollout I think the alternative vaccine, which doesn`t require the specialist storage, will make this one obsolete relatively quickly.

Doses can only be mixed, given and recorded by one nurse in order to limit liability. They come in batches of just under 1000 which all need to be given within a 5 day slot so highways etc. need to be involved to control traffic. It is a bit of a logistical nightmare by all accounts and certainly not as easy as giving the flu jab.

Only 4 'transitions' allowed by the mhra, which restricts the number of journeys and amount of handling.

JVT also mentioned that the packs cannot be split (mhra again) at the moment, but hoped they would allow it soon enough. 

Presumably needs many new freezers all over the place to make it more feasible.

Oxford one will make a big difference if approved. 

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2 minutes ago, Casino said:

All the country into tier 4 to protect the south east  :)

 

London gone up also. By the 16th, London could be the worst! It’s possible that in 11 days time, the NW could be the lowest and London the highest! A decision on our rating needs to be made before the 16th.

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5 minutes ago, Boby Brno said:

London gone up also. By the 16th, London could be the worst! It’s possible that in 11 days time, the NW could be the lowest and London the highest! A decision on our rating needs to be made before the 16th.

I don't think anything will change anywhere before 16th, no matter what the numbers are doing

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10 minutes ago, Boby Brno said:

London gone up also. By the 16th, London could be the worst! It’s possible that in 11 days time, the NW could be the lowest and London the highest! A decision on our rating needs to be made before the 16th.

Last time they worked on data from 7 days before, so 9th, but.....are they really going to change anything downwards?

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4 minutes ago, Sweep said:

I don't think anything will change anywhere before 16th, no matter what the numbers are doing

Those figures are a few days behind. The actual state of play will be much better for us here in the NW. we’ve been in this tiered system longer than everyone and the improvements are there for all to see. It’ll only get better. If they wait till the 16th, it could be embarrassing for the government if London is so much worse. Making an earlier decision will satisfy everyone. Just my opinion of course.

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The government wil simply say that the suppression of the virus is vital to protect the nhs

Cant risk it going back up etc

We’re tier 3 Until the 16th and I’ll be amazed if it’s not held there until new year

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12 hours ago, Boby Brno said:

London gone up also. By the 16th, London could be the worst! It’s possible that in 11 days time, the NW could be the lowest and London the highest! A decision on our rating needs to be made before the 16th.

Would be no surprise if government ducked the 16th  & pushed it back to January to keep London open. 

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