Coronavirus

[Sweep]

Another 501 today. Cases down, but hospital admissions up, currently nearly 16500 in hospital

[Escobarp]

Scottish government saying expecting to start giving vaccine out first week in December. Saying a Million up here done by end of Jan which is about 18% of population. 

[Mounts Kipper]

3 hours ago, miamiwhite said:

 

Cheaper and without the need to deep freeze. 

[Zico]

4 hours ago, birch-chorley said:

I think it’s fair to lump it in the same bracket as flu, after all flu is as deadly, it’s only because we have a vaccine for it that it’s much less of a problem 

The flu vaccine isn’t 100% effective and vulnerable people still die from it each year (or complications following flu) 

Likewise this Covid vaccine won’t be 100% effective, it won’t work for say 5%-10% of the 15m in the ‘vulnerable group’ so we will still likely see Covid deaths beyond the vaccination programme, more in line with normal winter flu deaths mind 

Maybe we can lump it in the same bracket once we got on top of it

Till then it's a cunt

Just said on the news someone dies of covid every 17 seconds

[Rudy]

3 minutes ago, ZicoKelly said:

Maybe we can lump it in the same bracket once we got on top of it

Till then it's a cunt

Just said on the news someone dies of covid every 17 seconds

Bono and Geldof clicking their fingers again?

[Zico]

Just now, Rudy said:

Bono and Geldof clicking their fingers again?

They probably know it's Christmas

"Charity" single incoming

[birch-chorley]

6 minutes ago, ZicoKelly said:

Maybe we can lump it in the same bracket once we got on top of it

Till then it's a cunt

Just said on the news someone dies of covid every 17 seconds

Flu is also a cunt to be fair, having lost a family member to it in 2018 

 

[Zico]

1 minute ago, birch-chorley said:

Flu is also a cunt to be fair, having lost a family member to it in 2018 

 

but at least we have a vaccine for it that allows us to crack on

Long way to go till it's comparable

[fatolive]

I was speaking to someone today, they are a project manager , her current project is ensuring logistics so majority of groups are vaccinated by end of Feb. 

“the next time you are in a football ground will be to get a jab from an army medic and there’ll be more people there than your used to being a Bolton fan “  was a response to my question of how are you going to manage that . 
 

just what I was told , I have no idea, be some operation that but seemingly large scale plans according to her. 
 

[green genie]

9 minutes ago, fatolive said:

I was speaking to someone today, they are a project manager , her current project is ensuring logistics so majority of groups are vaccinated by end of Feb. 

“the next time you are in a football ground will be to get a jab from an army medic and there’ll be more people there than your used to being a Bolton fan “  was a response to my question of how are you going to manage that . 
 

just what I was told , I have no idea, be some operation that but seemingly large scale plans according to her. 
 

The whole palaver of storing at -70degC gives them little choice but for mass rollout even if they could take flak of delays in controlled fashion 

Edited November 19, 2020 by green genie

[Winchester White]

Looks like the oxford one is a winner too. Fucking hell good news at bastard last!

Let's get a deal done with the EU and fucking smash 2021 with every fucker doing good guns.

[birch-chorley]

8 hours ago, ZicoKelly said:

but at least we have a vaccine for it that allows us to crack on

Long way to go till it's comparable

You only need to turn on the radio to hear NHS adverts saying don’t call it ‘just the flu’, they are clearly trying to make sure everyone in the vulnerable groups have a Winter Flu vaccine. Assuming it’s partly to help the NHS through Winter, partly to tackle the wave of recent anti vaxers 

It’s a virus that kills hundreds of thousands every single year, millions some years! It will kill more than Covid over our life team easily. If vulnerable folk stop having the winter flu vaccine to the same levels those deaths will increase dramatically 

Covid and flu are very similar viruses, let’s hope Covid doesn’t mutate and become another Winter flu strain that we end up tackling it forever more

[miamiwhite]

Mass testing in Bolton starting very soon according to the local rag.

[Rudy]

1 minute ago, miamiwhite said:

Mass testing in Bolton starting very soon according to the local rag.

My Mrs was on a zoom call yesterday about potential roll out plans, and this was part of it 

[miamiwhite]

9 hours ago, Winchester White said:

Looks like the oxford one is a winner too. Fucking hell good news at bastard last!

Let's get a deal done with the EU and fucking smash 2021 with every fucker doing good guns.

The antibody test will be done before and after the vaccine, heads up given there 😉 

[miamiwhite]

6 minutes ago, Rudy said:

My Mrs was on a zoom call yesterday about potential roll out plans, and this was part of it 

I wonder if the lateral flow tests are those by NCYT or ODX ?

Get pushing for Info mate, then get invested 👍 

[Rudy]

1 minute ago, miamiwhite said:

I wonder if the lateral flow tests are those by NCYT or ODX ?

Get pushing for Info mate, then get invested 👍 

She’s a paediatrician but with staff shortages she has been drafted in to help out. I’ll see what she says

This time next year Rodney

[miamiwhite]

12 minutes ago, Rudy said:

She’s a paediatrician but with staff shortages she has been drafted in to help out. I’ll see what she says

This time next year Rodney

One will have primedesign name on it, the other Abingdon Health 👍 

[Tonge moor green jacket]

14 hours ago, birch-chorley said:

Both circa 1% aren’t they? 

Apparently not. Looked at some who report that had flu at around .1 %

I suppose different flus might have slightly different rates in fairness. 

I also had differing numbers for covid depending upon measuring methods, but they were above 1.

So certainly an order of magnitude greater.

 

[Winchester White]

8 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Apparently not. Looked at some who report that had flu at around .1 %

I suppose different flus might have slightly different rates in fairness. 

I also had differing numbers for covid depending upon measuring methods, but they were above 1.

So certainly an order of magnitude greater.

 

Aye, from the below website:

The USA’s Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) does publish estimates of the number of flu cases annually, including estimates for the number of hospitalisations and the number of deaths. The number of cases has ranged from nine million to 45 million a year, and the number of deaths ranged from 12,000 to 61,000. These figures suggest that over the past decade in the United States, the percentage of flu cases that resulted in hospitalisation has consistently been between 1% and 2%, and the percentage of cases that resulted in death has been between 0.1% and 0.2%.

 

https://fullfact.org/health/coronavirus-compare-influenza/

 

[Zico]

2 hours ago, birch-chorley said:

You only need to turn on the radio to hear NHS adverts saying don’t call it ‘just the flu’, they are clearly trying to make sure everyone in the vulnerable groups have a Winter Flu vaccine. Assuming it’s partly to help the NHS through Winter, partly to tackle the wave of recent anti vaxers 

It’s a virus that kills hundreds of thousands every single year, millions some years! It will kill more than Covid over our life team easily. If vulnerable folk stop having the winter flu vaccine to the same levels those deaths will increase dramatically 

Covid and flu are very similar viruses, let’s hope Covid doesn’t mutate and become another Winter flu strain that we end up tackling it forever more

no, but then it would be in the same bracket as flu

anyway

imagine being vunerable, shielding all year, then catching and dying of flu

how shit woudl that be

[birch-chorley]

13 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Apparently not. Looked at some who report that had flu at around .1 %

I suppose different flus might have slightly different rates in fairness. 

I also had differing numbers for covid depending upon measuring methods, but they were above 1.

So certainly an order of magnitude greater.

 

Fair enough 

I assume the Winter flu vaccine has helped bring it down to 0.1%? If you have vaccinated the vulnerable then the death rate will reduce 

Similarly, once the Covid vaccine has been given to the vulnerable over the coming weeks, the death rate % will also massively reduce. Thousands of younger and middle age people will still test positive but the death toll will come down because it won’t be the vulnerable who get it 

Be interesting to see how the mortality rate changes next year with a vaccine 

[Guest]

20 minutes ago, birch-chorley said:

Fair enough 

I assume the Winter flu vaccine has helped bring it down to 0.1%? If you have vaccinated the vulnerable then the death rate will reduce 

Similarly, once the Covid vaccine has been given to the vulnerable over the coming weeks, the death rate % will also massively reduce. Thousands of younger and middle age people will still test positive but the death toll will come down because it won’t be the vulnerable who get it 

Be interesting to see how the mortality rate changes next year with a vaccine 

Recent months are in line with the 5 year average

[jmjhb]

 

[Rudy]

Vaccine next Monday 

Pub open for Christmas eve

 

ITK FACT with Cherry and cream on Kelly brooks cans