Coronavirus

[birch-chorley]

1 hour ago, ZicoKelly said:

I'll try and find it but saw today vaccines will have an impact by spring or summer

Normality by next winter

If the ones most likely to die have been vaccinated in January, then the risk to the NHS is eliminated by early February 

Folk can carry on with stuff that doesn’t fuck the economy like masks, 1m distancing, hand sanitiser etc but no way are you going to be able to tell people they can’t earn a living in February 

Were are close to a point now where personal choice comes into play, if your worried take your own isolation measures 

Edited November 20, 2020 by birch-chorley

[buckhurstwhite]

26 minutes ago, Blondi said:

I've just turned 50, am I going to have a vaccination? Nah, fook it, I'll take my chances, I'm slim and healthy with no underlying medical conditions.

 No pub, theatre, football ground, etc., etc., for you then. Sorry, but I think you should have to show proof vaccination to enter such venues. Cue dodgy line in false certificates 

[only1swanny]

37 minutes ago, Blondi said:

I've just turned 50, am I going to have a vaccination? Nah, fook it, I'll take my chances, I'm slim and healthy with no underlying medical conditions.

Family member currently in Bolton with covid having contracted it whilst in hospital. 

37 years old, has asthma.. 

[Guest]

 

The total number of people under 60 with no underlying health problems who died with Covid this year: 339

[Spider]

10 minutes ago, boltondiver said:

 

The total number of people under 60 with no underlying health problems who died with Covid this year: 339

How many lives have potentially been saved by all the measures?

[Tonge moor green jacket]

7 minutes ago, Spider said:

How many lives have potentially been saved by all the measures?

Yep, and how many have been very poorly, will need long term rehab, and how many operations etc would have been delayed without these measures.

How many more medical staff would have succumbed without them?

Not measurable.

[Zico]

25 minutes ago, boltondiver said:

 

The total number of people under 60 with no underlying health problems who died with Covid this year: 339

What about underlying?

[Spider]

2 minutes ago, ZicoKelly said:

What about underlying?

The thing is

Without restrictions, lockdowns etc, it could have been tens of thousands. It may have been 339.

Im just glad we didn’t have to find out.

339 should be a good enough clue that it’s dangerous as fuck.

 

[birch-chorley]

Let’s wash the numbers up in 10 years when we have seen the impact of the Public Spending cuts 

 

[Winchester White]

As I have already had Covid, I assume I don't need a vaccine any time soon?

[Casino]

16 hours ago, jmjhb said:

Seeing as the 50+ bracket is priority for the vaccine then they should be the ones isolating

Pay me my waves and ill shut the doir and not come out til the wanderers play

Hiws that

[Casino]

6 minutes ago, Winchester White said:

As I have already had Covid, I assume I don't need a vaccine any time soon?

Cue one of the regulars on here quoting 3 people in 87 zillion have had it twice 

You will be offered thevac as i understand jt

[Zico]

29 minutes ago, Spider said:

The thing is

Without restrictions, lockdowns etc, it could have been tens of thousands. It may have been 339.

Im just glad we didn’t have to find out.

339 should be a good enough clue that it’s dangerous as fuck.

 

Another fag pack maths way of looking at it

50k covid deaths

75k excess deaths

25k people have died because of covid without catching it

For every 2 covid deaths, 1 other person dies, probably because they can't to get hospital 

Need to get them cases down

[only1swanny]

30 minutes ago, Casino said:

Cue one of the regulars on here quoting 3 people in 87 zillion have had it twice 

You will be offered thevac as i understand jt

We were 99% certain the family member in hospital had it earlier on the year,  as were the nurses that treated th last time.

Either way, even if they didn't,  need to reduce any risk to them 

[Spider]

23 minutes ago, ZicoKelly said:

Another fag pack maths way of looking at it

50k covid deaths

75k excess deaths

25k people have died because of covid without catching it

For every 2 covid deaths, 1 other person dies, probably because they can't to get hospital 

Need to get them cases down

Aye

Its easy to point at known data that is a result of lockdowns and say “it’s not killing millions!!”

What we cannot prove - because we shouldn’t have to - is what these numbers would look like without restrictions.

I find it rather flippant to do so.

[Guest]

2 hours ago, Spider said:

How many lives have potentially been saved by all the measures?

We’ll never know

[Guest]

2 hours ago, ZicoKelly said:

What about underlying?

2,652

[Zico]

24 minutes ago, boltondiver said:

2,652

chuck in excess as well and these numbers are growing

[Tonge moor green jacket]

2 hours ago, Casino said:

Cue one of the regulars on here quoting 3 people in 87 zillion have had it twice 

You will be offered thevac as i understand jt

Have you any definitive proof that those who have had it cannot still transmit it even if they don't get the illness again?

Perhaps that's why all are being offered the vaccine.

[only1swanny]

1 hour ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Have you any definitive proof that those who have had it cannot still transmit it even if they don't get the illness again?

Perhaps that's why all are being offered the vaccine.

That's the situation we are in.. 

Nurses were adamant the family member had it earlier in year.. right symptoms after effects etc.  This time, still positive and still able to pass it in but no raging temp or cough, just trouble breathing and extremely high heart rate. Positive for 5 days before symptoms too. 

People who have the vaccine will still get it, still pass it on, it just wont be as severe. 

[royal white]

I keep reading suicides are through the roof but I’m yet to see figures from a reputable source. Anyone any ideas what the current suicide figures are at? 

[miamiwhite]

12 minutes ago, royal white said:

I keep reading suicides are through the roof but I’m yet to see figures from a reputable source. Anyone any ideas what the current suicide figures are at? 

Quite high around Wigan

[royal white]

Just now, miamiwhite said:

Quite high around Wigan

That’s probably realisation of where they’re from 

[jules_darby]

20 minutes ago, royal white said:

I keep reading suicides are through the roof but I’m yet to see figures from a reputable source. Anyone any ideas what the current suicide figures are at? 

No idea of post beginning of September but there’s a fair bit of press about release of figures then

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/news.sky.com/story/amp/male-suicides-at-highest-rate-in-two-decades-official-data-shows-12060928

One would not imagine it’s gone down since. And a lot of mental struggles brought on by the recent tiered limitations, lockdowns, affected social and business/job issues will be felt to come for years.

Anecdotally, I have a friend who committed covid related suicide this summer and know a few folk through work that are suffering terribly with mental health ATM, miles more than I’ve ever known before 

[MancWanderer]

I’ve still got a few questions about it all

if you’ve had Covid does the vaccine offer you anything, can you still carry it and transmit it, and can you catch it again via a mutation of the strain?

Also, if you’ve had it, should you be tested for antibodies before you have the vaccine or could it possibly be a waste if your antibody levels are high?