Moderators Casino Posted May 20, 2020 Moderators Share Posted May 20, 2020 It's ok saying we either ppg or play the games I'd vote play the games Sort that out you dicks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Escobarp Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 25 minutes ago, Casino said: It's ok saying we either ppg or play the games I'd vote play the games Sort that out you dicks. And possibly bust out club. Very wise move that. You will go far 👍🏼 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted May 20, 2020 Moderators Share Posted May 20, 2020 Its not on us to sort out the logistics Its an impossibilty to pull it off I know that, the efl know that Im hoping even you know that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duck Egg Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 I'd take league 1 on -12 again over starting in league 2 on 0, all day long. We got out of division 4 last time by the skin of our teeth. We could be stuck down there for years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Escobarp Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 7 minutes ago, Casino said: Its not on us to sort out the logistics Its an impossibilty to pull it off I know that, the efl know that Im hoping even you know that I would agree but if enough vote for it and that’s the decision then we have an almighty fucking financial issue facing us and I don’t see us getting through it unscathed along with many others. we would need to unfurlough players immediately. That’s in itself is a real issue I imagine. Plus that cunt onions will be back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted May 20, 2020 Moderators Share Posted May 20, 2020 Our players arent furloughed, but theres plenty other issues Imo, its an impossibilty to finish the programme in time So, id suggest that article giving 2 options is bullshit I think theres plenty grey in between Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breightmet Boy Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 Can’t see how they can relegate us and dock us points again, we’ve done our bit and lucky as fcuk to still be here, we showed our commitment playing our kids and crowd turning out in numbers home and away Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Escobarp Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 10 minutes ago, Casino said: Our players arent furloughed, but theres plenty other issues Imo, its an impossibilty to finish the programme in time So, id suggest that article giving 2 options is bullshit I think theres plenty grey in between Do we know for a fact they aren’t furloughed? I know they have agreed to defer some of their wages but doesn’t mean that they aren’t furloughed? everyday there are a number of articles and all contradictory and most of them must be bullshit as they can’t all be right eh im sick of the whole thing and just want the efl to make their mind up then we can get on with whatever it is we have to Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted May 20, 2020 Moderators Share Posted May 20, 2020 The club briefing was that non football staff had been furloghed The rest, deferrals I've not heard anything to contradict that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Escobarp Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 3 minutes ago, Casino said: The club briefing was that non football staff had been furloghed The rest, deferrals I've not heard anything to contradict that Ok thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnyrotten Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 I don't quite this deferrals thing. How and when do we start repaying players given we arent going to get any income this year. You can see it going on for ages where we owe players their wages from the previous season. That sounds familiar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rudy Posted May 20, 2020 Members Share Posted May 20, 2020 11 minutes ago, Johnnyrotten said: I don't quite this deferrals thing. How and when do we start repaying players given we arent going to get any income this year. You can see it going on for ages where we owe players their wages from the previous season. That sounds familiar. Might work that they’ll defer a percentage. Say they’ll 90%, that 10% is held back. Over the months until revenue starts to come in. Whatever they’ve missed will then be spread out over a number of months Just one scenario. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErnestTurnip Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 Promotion but no relegation, have any of those teams wanting this said how it will work in the seasons after to get the structure back ? Do we have 3 up, 3 up, 4 up this season and then have the maddest season ever with normal promotion and 6 relegated from the PL, 6 relegated from the Championship, 7 down from L1 and just 1 down from L2 ? You'd have to think not but summat radical would have to happen, maybe that thing is a totally new structure? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger_Dubuis Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 I suppose there's a chance there will be a League One but not a League Two next season due to there not being enough money to play League Two behind closed doors. The Italian League have said their deadline to complete this season is August 20 and they plan to start next season on September 1.There's a quick turnaround to cram it in for Euro 21. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rudy Posted May 21, 2020 Members Share Posted May 21, 2020 38 minutes ago, Roger_Dubuis said: I suppose there's a chance there will be a League One but not a League Two next season due to there not being enough money to play League Two behind closed doors. The Italian League have said their deadline to complete this season is August 20 and they plan to start next season on September 1.There's a quick turnaround to cram it in for Euro 21. It’s not that bad for them. They only have one domestic cup and a winter break. We’re behind them and play more games than any other European major league. I assume a cup or both cups will need to be potted, which causes all sorts of problems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ani Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, ErnestTurnip said: Promotion but no relegation, have any of those teams wanting this said how it will work in the seasons after to get the structure back ? Do we have 3 up, 3 up, 4 up this season and then have the maddest season ever with normal promotion and 6 relegated from the PL, 6 relegated from the Championship, 7 down from L1 and just 1 down from L2 ? You'd have to think not but summat radical would have to happen, maybe that thing is a totally new structure? It is only the EPL that is affected in the way you mention. Say the Championship has no relegation then they lose 3 teams to promotion and gain 3 teams from teams promoted in. No relegation so no change there. I think this is why it needs all divisions to have same outcome. Edited May 21, 2020 by Ani Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
masi 51 Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 Chances that if the recession is as bad as the chancellor thinks. We could see the majority of teams below the championship go semi pro. Television money is past its peak. Corporate will see a big decline as will sponsorship. Then they are talking about a salary cap [Salford have players contracted to above the ceiling already] Whatever they decide someone will not be happy. On a plus side I think our board have acted with dignity by not voting for the season to be voided. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger_Dubuis Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 48 minutes ago, Rudy’s Message said: It’s not that bad for them. They only have one domestic cup and a winter break. We’re behind them and play more games than any other European major league. I assume a cup or both cups will need to be potted, which causes all sorts of problems. The Italians are behind the English league this season.All serie A clubs have either 12 or 13 league games left.The worst affected are probably Inter Milan who have 13 league games left and are still in the Italian Cup and Europa League. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tombwfc Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 The only two outcomes for us even remotely close to fair would be -12 in League One (null and void) or relegated to League Two (PPG). Anything else doesn't sit right. However, if everyone else is up for tearing up the rules and giving everyone what they want, then fuck it. Promotion, no relegation, a six team play-off in League One to include Peterborough, us staying where we are with no deduction next season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tombwfc Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 23 minutes ago, Ani said: It is only the EPL that is affected in the way you mention. Say the Championship has no relegation then they lose 3 teams to promotion and gain 3 teams from teams promoted in. No relegation so no change there. I think this is why it needs all divisions to have same outcome. I don't think it's even an option for the leagues which are going to try and play games to have no relegation. It becomes beyond farcical to even bother if the majority of the games carry no meaning. Apparently the Championship players are going to have to test themselves moving forward. What could possibly go wrong with that? https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/52747798 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Horwich Posted May 21, 2020 Moderators Share Posted May 21, 2020 I’m more arsed about what happens next season. Dont see how clubs will survive if they are playing behind closed doors Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radcliffe white Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 My guess would be spectators will be allowed sept/October Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc505 Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 16 minutes ago, Horwich said: I’m more arsed about what happens next season. Dont see how clubs will survive if they are playing behind closed doors It'd have to be supported by people buying season tickets that give some sort of priority access to ifollow and that then convert to physical access when the doors open. Not seen anything so far to suggest it's in the pipeline for any club, or how feasible it even is. Why would a family get their usual 3 or 4 season tickets when 1 will do and crowd around the laptop? Going to need something major, or rely on some major generosity from fans, to support itself until we can go back in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ani Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 Having watched 2 minutes of the German football with no fans at weekend pretty clear no way will any broadcaster be paying top dollar for football without fans. Which mains the safety and well being of fans will soon be a secondary issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tombwfc Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 Surely for us, it should be easier than most to make a case for getting some fans back in. I don't know what we'd need to break even, but 6/7k home fans around a 28,000 seater stadium. Keep the concourses closed and sell food and drink outside. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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