Meanwhile in Israel

[Tonge moor green jacket]

Saw this earlier. 

Is she a student there do we know?

 

[London Wanderer]

Nothing matters very much, and few things matter at all.

 

[London Wanderer]

53 minutes ago, BobyBrno said:

No. If you include the Palestinians in the West Bank and add them to those in Gaza who didn’t vote for Hamas,  they would outnumber those that support Hamas. Do you agree? 
So, in my simple maths, most people don’t want Hamas anywhere near Gaza/Israel. Do you agree.

So, Israel or Hamas?

Bit of odd equation this

Neither for what it’s worth.

Israel have only made things worse. Far worse.

[London Wanderer]

1 hour ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said:

I think Hamas would take any opportunity they have to inflict violence on Israeli citizens

I'm not sure why stating that equates to denying Israeli aggression 

It doesn’t 👍 never said it did.

The current Israeli government have taken this opportunity for retaliation to inflict violence on civilians . The current narrative from the ICJ is that it could amount to genocide. It works both ways. 

Only an idiot would believe them when they said they’ve tried their best to limit civilian casualties and famine. 

Edited March 8, 2024 by London Wanderer

[Casino]

3 hours ago, BobyBrno said:

Agreed. Israel has to have an election before 2026. How about Gaza. They haven’t had one since 2006 and probably won’t have one until Israel takes control. Which they will. 

Thats ok then, lets massacre thousands of kids

Or am I missing the point?

I know you wouldnt support that

[Zico]

I still can't quite believe after all this folk still think it's about taking sides

[London Wanderer]

6 hours ago, Zico said:

I still can't quite believe after all this folk still think it's about taking sides

“You’re either Israel or Hamas… Do you agree. Do you?”

That was a very odd post.

[BobyBrno]

It’s a war between Israel and Hamas. The Palestinians are in the middle. 
Of course people will pick a side. There will be a winner. I hope it’s not Hamas. 
 

[Mounts Kipper]

7 hours ago, Casino said:

Thats ok then, lets massacre thousands of kids

Or am I missing the point?

I know you wouldnt support that

It’s not ok.. but Palestine needs to get rid of Hamas, otherwise deaths will continue for both sides, what do you suggest is the alternative option to get rid and give Palestinians the chance to vote on their future direction. If you have an alternative solution let’s hear it.

[BobyBrno]

7 hours ago, Casino said:

Thats ok then, lets massacre thousands of kids

Or am I missing the point?

I know you wouldnt support that

Of course I wouldn’t. I said yesterday that I didn’t. 

[Casino]

53 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said:

It’s not ok.. but Palestine needs to get rid of Hamas, otherwise deaths will continue for both sides, what do you suggest is the alternative option to get rid and give Palestinians the chance to vote on their future direction. If you have an alternative solution let’s hear it.

Dead kids can't vote

[Zico]

1 hour ago, BobyBrno said:

It’s a war between Israel and Hamas. The Palestinians are in the middle. 
Of course people will pick a side. There will be a winner. I hope it’s not Hamas. 
 

What does a victory look like?

[BobyBrno]

12 minutes ago, Zico said:

What does a victory look like?

I hope Hamas will be removed. I hope Israel will then play fair and implement the two state solution. I hope the Palestinians do not vote in another terrorist organisation and I hope Israel vote in a more moderate government.

Imagine.😊

[Mounts Kipper]

1 hour ago, Casino said:

Dead kids can't vote

I asked what’s your alternative solution to remove Hamas because unless an alternative is offered it will rumble on forever and more kids will die. Israel cannot and should not stop until Hamas are forced to surrender or reverse their stated position to eradicate all Jews & Israel.

Edited March 9, 2024 by Mounts Kipper
Arafat death not conclusive how he died.

[Sweep]

9 hours ago, Zico said:

I still can't quite believe after all this folk still think it's about taking sides

Crackers isn't it

[Zico]

1 hour ago, BobyBrno said:

I hope Hamas will be removed. I hope Israel will then play fair and implement the two state solution. I hope the Palestinians do not vote in another terrorist organisation and I hope Israel vote in a more moderate government.

Imagine.😊

Sounds like a draw to me but it's a good plan 

I don't think the current approach of mass genocide was necessary 

Or will lead to such an outcome

But we live in hope

Maybe once the terrorist regimes at war are removed the ordinary Israelis and Palestinians can get on with implementing the above 

[Mounts Kipper]

1 hour ago, BobyBrno said:

I hope Hamas will be removed. I hope Israel will then play fair and implement the two state solution. I hope the Palestinians do not vote in another terrorist organisation and I hope Israel vote in a more moderate government.

Imagine.😊

On this I think we can all agree. It’s just how we get to that point that folk disagree on.

Edited March 9, 2024 by Mounts Kipper

[Farrelli]

1 hour ago, Mounts Kipper said:

I asked what’s your alternative solution to remove Hamas because unless an alternative is offered it will rumble on forever and more kids will die. Israel cannot and should not stop until Hamas are forced to surrender or reverse their stated position to eradicate all Jews & Israel.

Negotiating a ceasefire is the alternative so that innocent people stop being killed and starved to death. 

[Mounts Kipper]

26 minutes ago, Farrelli said:

Negotiating a ceasefire is the alternative so that innocent people stop being killed and starved to death. 

That’s not an alternative that solves the underlying issue. Try again. 

Edited March 9, 2024 by Mounts Kipper

[Cheese]

21 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said:

That’s not an alternative that solves the underlying issue. Try again. 

Do you honestly think killing tens of thousands of civilians is going to "solve the underlying issue"?

Edited March 9, 2024 by Cheese

[Mounts Kipper]

1 minute ago, Cheese said:

Do you honestly think killing tens of thousands of civilians is going to "solve the underlying issue"?

The removal or surrender of Hamas is the only solution that stops thousands dying. I await your solution. 

[Farrelli]

2 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said:

The removal or surrender of Hamas is the only solution that stops thousands dying. I await your solution. 

That is not realistic.  At some point innocent people have to be protected from this genocide. The solution needs to start with a ceasefire. 

[Cheese]

11 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said:

The removal or surrender of Hamas is the only solution that stops thousands dying. I await your solution. 

I don't know the solution. I'm just pretty certain that killing thousands of children isn't it.

[Mounts Kipper]

15 minutes ago, Cheese said:

I don't know the solution. I'm just pretty certain that killing thousands of children isn't it.

I’d prefer Hamas to lay down their arms and surrender, that they won’t in order to protect their own people means the Israelis have no other alternative. This is a war and one side has to admit defeat. 

[Jol_BWFC]

11 hours ago, Zico said:

I still can't quite believe after all this folk still think it's about taking sides

What’s the score at the moment? Isreal 2-1 Hamas? Innocent men, women and children -25,000.