Covid-19

[stevieb]

38 minutes ago, Adlington Trotter said:

Are there any stats available that break down the hospitalisations and deaths by vaccinated and unvaccintaed?

I was told this was on the government website, but not from what I can see.

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/covid-19-vaccine-weekly-surveillance-reports

Edit... What it doesn't say is what type of hospitalisations (i.e those on oxygen or those on mechanical ventilators split by vaccine status). 

You can get the hospitalisation type but not split by vaccine status here... 

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

 

Edited December 22, 2021 by stevieb

[Sweep]

7 minutes ago, stevieb said:

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/covid-19-vaccine-weekly-surveillance-reports

Edit... What it doesn't say is what type of hospitalisations (i.e those on oxygen or those on mechanical ventilators split by vaccine status). 

You can get the hospitalisation type but not split by vaccine status here... 

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

 

I'm sure last I heard, it was about 40% of those in hospital that didn't have any vaccinations. Its certainly not "nearly all of them" as some balloons would try and have us believe.

[Tonge moor green jacket]

4 minutes ago, Sweep said:

I'm sure last I heard, it was about 40% of those in hospital that didn't have any vaccinations. Its certainly not "nearly all of them" as some balloons would try and have us believe.

Seems both may he true!

As I mentioned last night, on the local news they said one local hospital said the big majority of covid patients were unvaccinated. 

May well be differences according to area.

It would seem almost impossible not to have vaccinated patients though, given overall numbers.

[Sweep]

5 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Seems both may he true!

As I mentioned last night, on the local news they said one local hospital said the big majority of covid patients were unvaccinated. 

May well be differences according to area.

It would seem almost impossible not to have vaccinated patients though, given overall numbers.

I know GMTV got a telling off from OFCOM the other week for saying it was 90% in hospital were unvaccinated, when reality was it was offi closer to 35%

Obviously this info is a week out if date now

https://www.mirror.co.uk/tv/tv-news/breaking-lorraine-hit-barrage-ofcom-25702731

[Escobarp]

3 hours ago, stevieb said:

Because I'm not Welsh?

 

Because you won’t be allowed in anywhere anyway across any of the uk and can’t travel abroad 😬

[Mounts Kipper]

52 minutes ago, Sweep said:

I'm sure last I heard, it was about 40% of those in hospital that didn't have any vaccinations. Its certainly not "nearly all of them" as some balloons would try and have us believe.

Think those in ICU are mainly none vaccinated, that’s the figure that matters, I do know an ICU nurse and she told me a few weeks back virtually none in icu were vaccinated. 

[Zico]

1 hour ago, Sweep said:

Featuring prominent MPs, such as Dianne Abbot and Priti Patel

 

1 hour ago, MancWanderer said:

Zico out!!

 

[MickyD]

1 minute ago, Mounts Kipper said:

Think those in ICU are mainly none vaccinated, that’s the figure that matters, I do know an ICU nurse and she told me a few weeks back virtually none in icu were vaccinated. 

And we’ve heard similar on here. I’ve also been told same from a completely separate source. So, who to believe? I’d say it would be in the interest of the government to exploit the high percentage on unvaxed rather than hide it.

[stevieb]

2 minutes ago, Zico said:

 

 

Please don't do the reveal 

[MickyD]

4 minutes ago, Zico said:

 

 

 

[Spider]

6 minutes ago, Zico said:

 

 

This may be the lowest anyone has ever stooped on here.

[Spider]

109,000 cases today.

not sure how many Cybertron

[Guest]

6 minutes ago, Spider said:

109,000 cases today.

not sure how many Cybertron

Important data steady

[Guest]

12 minutes ago, Spider said:

This may be the lowest anyone has ever stooped on here.

Shocking 

[stevieb]

1 hour ago, Sweep said:

I'm sure last I heard, it was about 40% of those in hospital that didn't have any vaccinations. Its certainly not "nearly all of them" as some balloons would try and have us believe.

When you look at the data and then compare with what the media and politicians report it's eye opening. 

[Not in Crawley]

39 minutes ago, Escobarp said:

Because you won’t be allowed in anywhere anyway across any of the uk and can’t travel abroad 😬

Good, will make my drive to Bolton a lot quieter.

[Casino]

1 hour ago, Sweep said:

I'm sure last I heard, it was about 40% of those in hospital that didn't have any vaccinations. Its certainly not "nearly all of them" as some balloons would try and have us believe.

Helen Wall isnt a loon

Her figure re RBH ICU was 'over 90%'

That was about a month ago

[Tonge moor green jacket]

1 hour ago, Sweep said:

I know GMTV got a telling off from OFCOM the other week for saying it was 90% in hospital were unvaccinated, when reality was it was offi closer to 35%

Obviously this info is a week out if date now

https://www.mirror.co.uk/tv/tv-news/breaking-lorraine-hit-barrage-ofcom-25702731

It's quite common now for media to make incomplete statements or even not update their stories even when they've reported a change previously.

Really doesn't help anyone. 

[Casino]

19 minutes ago, boltondiver said:

Important data steady

which is?

what does the data tell us about nhs folk not at work

[stevieb]

1 minute ago, Casino said:

Helen Wall isnt a loon

Her figure on icu was 'over 90%'

That was about a month ago

Why is it not published then along with all the other data? 

I'm not saying it's not a true figure by the way. 

We only ever seem to get it anecdotal. Someone on TV says or my mate works in the hospital says... 

 

[Casino]

3 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

It's quite common now for media to make incomplete statements or even not update their stories even when they've reported a change previously.

Really doesn't help anyone. 

the figure i want to know is

 

of those on icu, how many are unvaccinated

[stevieb]

1 minute ago, Casino said:

the figure i want to know is

 

of those on icu, how many are unvaccinated

I suspect they aren't reporting it because it'll add fuel to the anti vax fire if its not 99% 

As in reality with a heavily jabbed population those in ICU are probably jabbed but are in their by age group or obesity. 

 

[Tonge moor green jacket]

43 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said:

Think those in ICU are mainly none vaccinated, that’s the figure that matters, I do know an ICU nurse and she told me a few weeks back virtually none in icu were vaccinated. 

I also heard similar from the parents of a lass doing likewise in Bolton. 

It was a while back, but the comment was "they're all unvaccinated". Whether that was icu, or in general covid ward, I don't know.

[BobyBrno]

With regard to testing, not sure how many people report their LFT tests, positive or negative. Not seen the testing figures but LFT kits have become the new toilet rolls. Tried 4 places today and met with the same response, a sigh and sorry but not sure when we will get them.

[Tonge moor green jacket]

8 minutes ago, Casino said:

the figure i want to know is

 

of those on icu, how many are unvaccinated

https://www.bmj.com/content/374/bmj.n2306

Some stuff here, maybe not exactly what you're after, but quite revealing nonetheless.