waffer cup 07 Posted October 3, 2021 Share Posted October 3, 2021 25 minutes ago, Spider said: More teenagers have died due to knife crime this year than Covid. Maybe your anger should be directed elsewhere. Good grief, what a sad state of affairs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZiggyStardust Posted October 3, 2021 Share Posted October 3, 2021 Serious question waffer, do you think the Spanish governement have done : a. Incredibly much better b. Much better c. Slightly better d. the same. e. Slightly worse f. Much worse g. Incredibly mush worse than the British Government in handling the pandemic ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bolton_blondie Posted October 3, 2021 Members Share Posted October 3, 2021 1 minute ago, ZiggyStardust said: Serious question waffer, do you think the Spanish governement have done : a. Incredibly much better b. Much better c. Slightly better d. the same. e. Slightly worse f. Much worse g. Incredibly mush worse than the British Government in handling the pandemic ? H. None of the above. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traf Posted October 3, 2021 Share Posted October 3, 2021 3 hours ago, waffer cup 07 said: Yes, but don't worry about it, dismiss it, like many on here ' it's just like flu'. Tell Gonzo that, and the relatives of the other 120, who died yesterday and another 30,000 new infections, some of whom will end up in hospital and a few ultimately die. Tell that to the parents of the 15 year old who died. It's ok ' because it's one in a million'. Particularly low and crass even by past WW standards to reference a poster whose mother passed away last night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waffer cup 07 Posted October 3, 2021 Share Posted October 3, 2021 6 minutes ago, bolton_blondie said: H. None of the above. B, without doubt, just look at the current infection/ hospital cases and death figures. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waffer cup 07 Posted October 3, 2021 Share Posted October 3, 2021 2 minutes ago, Traf said: Particularly low and crass even by past WW standards to reference a poster whose mother passed away last night. For which I have apologised. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traf Posted October 3, 2021 Share Posted October 3, 2021 1 minute ago, waffer cup 07 said: For which I have apologised. But not deleted the post? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bolton_blondie Posted October 3, 2021 Members Share Posted October 3, 2021 Just now, Traf said: But not deleted the post? Exactly. Cretin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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gonzo Posted October 3, 2021 Share Posted October 3, 2021 3 hours ago, waffer cup 07 said: Yes, but don't worry about it, dismiss it, like many on here ' it's just like flu'. Tell Gonzo that, and the relatives of the other 120, who died yesterday and another 30,000 new infections, some of whom will end up in hospital and a few ultimately die. Tell that to the parents of the 15 year old who died. It's ok ' because it's one in a million'. Everybody is going to get it at some point. No matter what the restrictions. My mum stuck to the rules. Double jabbed early doors as a cancer nurse. Always wore a mask and never went anywhere bar shopping in cleveleys. She worked at the vic giving jabs out. She made it through 2 years of working with the general public at a hospital and the hospice, then got it once she stopped. You'll never, ever stop people getting it. The only thing that works is full lockdown. The rest is only in place to stop hospitals getting overwhelmed and slowing the spread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobyBrno Posted October 3, 2021 Share Posted October 3, 2021 1 minute ago, waffer cup 07 said: B, without doubt, just look at the current infection/ hospital cases and death figures. COVID is not going away. Sooner or later, Spain will have to relax it’s rules. When you do open up, your rates and deaths will increase. At what time in the future we make comparisons, no one knows. Other countries are now relaxing their rules based on vaccinations knowing that rates and deaths will increase but accepting that COVID is something we all have to live with. You don’t like Boris, that’s obvious but it’s clouding your judgment on the pandemic IMO. Have a go at him in the politics thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZiggyStardust Posted October 3, 2021 Share Posted October 3, 2021 2 minutes ago, waffer cup 07 said: B, without doubt, just look at the current infection/ hospital cases and death figures. So,much better. Interesting. 2004 per milion have lost their lives to Covid in the UK. 1848 per million in Spain. Thats 7000 deaths total that equate to, or around 6% so the much better Spanish governement is resposble for 'only' 94% of the deaths the UK has. Hardly something to shout from the rooftops. The UK has provided 304 million tests. The Spanish 64 million. This might also explain the higher number of cases, as it appears that only the more serious cases in Spain are reported, whereas in the Uk, many with a positive result, but no symptoms or ailmants, are recorded. FWIW, I think the UK Governement has come out of this badly, bit Im not sure many governments have actually done much better. We wont really know, probably for the next 5 years or so, until we see the full effects on the economy and health. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waffer cup 07 Posted October 3, 2021 Share Posted October 3, 2021 Just now, gonzo said: Everybody is going to get it at some point. No matter what the restrictions. My mum stuck to the rules. Double jabbed early doors as a cancer nurse. Always wore a mask and never went anywhere bar shopping in cleveleys. She worked at the vic giving jabs out. She made it through 2 years of working with the general public at a hospital and the hospice, then got it once she stopped. You'll never, ever stop people getting it. The only thing that works is full lockdown. The rest is only in place to stop hospitals getting overwhelmed and slowing the spread. Sorry Gonzo if my post caused offence. My genuine condolences to you and your family in your sad loss. I honestly didn't know your Mum had passed away, but did know she was ill. When people are saying it's only like flu in makes my blood boil. So little understanding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bolton_blondie Posted October 3, 2021 Members Share Posted October 3, 2021 9 minutes ago, gonzo said: Everybody is going to get it at some point. No matter what the restrictions. My mum stuck to the rules. Double jabbed early doors as a cancer nurse. Always wore a mask and never went anywhere bar shopping in cleveleys. She worked at the vic giving jabs out. She made it through 2 years of working with the general public at a hospital and the hospice, then got it once she stopped. You'll never, ever stop people getting it. The only thing that works is full lockdown. The rest is only in place to stop hospitals getting overwhelmed and slowing the spread. Hope you're doing OK Gonzo x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted October 3, 2021 Moderators Share Posted October 3, 2021 4 minutes ago, waffer cup 07 said: Sorry Gonzo if my post caused offence. My genuine condolences to you and your family in your sad loss. I honestly didn't know your Mum had passed away, but did know she was ill. When people are saying it's only like flu in makes my blood boil. So little understanding. Fwiw, i didnt think you meant any offence If you are who i think you are, ill be surprised if you havent shared a pint with gonzo and ill also add you're no costa lager lout Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo Posted October 3, 2021 Share Posted October 3, 2021 Just now, bolton_blondie said: Hope you're doing OK Gonzo x Maddest week of my life. Currently in the bay horse with a pint. She wouldn't expect anything less ha ha. Thanks love x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Spider Posted October 3, 2021 Author Site Supporter Share Posted October 3, 2021 Gutted for you @gonzo Hope you’re all ok bud. X Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted October 3, 2021 Moderators Share Posted October 3, 2021 Oh and @gonzosorry to hear your news, but as you say, its around us all, itll get folk we know, but that isnt, imo, enough to close the country down Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post gonzo Posted October 3, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted October 3, 2021 7 minutes ago, waffer cup 07 said: Sorry Gonzo if my post caused offence. My genuine condolences to you and your family in your sad loss. I honestly didn't know your Mum had passed away, but did know she was ill. When people are saying it's only like flu in makes my blood boil. So little understanding. Takes a lot to offend me I've done a lot of soul searching over the past 6 days camped by mums beside watching a fairly healthy 70 year old body shut down before my eyes. She had a fucked liver, but the body couldn't fix it because she had covid and then pneumonia. The body couldn't fix the covid because her liver was pumping bad shit instead of good shit round her body. Do I resent people living normally in the midst of covid? Do I balls. I resent the virus itself and however it was made but we couldn't lockdown forever. I was one of the its just flu brigade, never thought it could take a woman like my mum. Without the bashed in liver, she'd have probably survived. But make no mistake its a cunt of a virus. Her cause of death will be covid, but in reality it was a mixture of 4 things. Watching her take her last breath will live with me forever. The NHS and the staff there are absolutely remarkable people. Theyve been brilliant thoughout. Regards covid, I really wish there was a proper treatment plan, rather than vaccinations. She was covid free 3 days before she died and the ward she was on was downgraded from a covid ward to medium risk. Anyway Im waffling. X Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobyBrno Posted October 3, 2021 Share Posted October 3, 2021 3 minutes ago, gonzo said: Takes a lot to offend me I've done a lot of soul searching over the past 6 days camped by mums beside watching a fairly healthy 70 year old body shut down before my eyes. She had a fucked liver, but the body couldn't fix it because she had covid and then pneumonia. The body couldn't fix the covid because her liver was pumping bad shit instead of good shit round her body. Do I resent people living normally in the midst of covid? Do I balls. I resent the virus itself and however it was made but we couldn't lockdown forever. I was one of the its just flu brigade, never thought it could take a woman like my mum. Without the bashed in liver, she'd have probably survived. But make no mistake its a cunt of a virus. Her cause of death will be covid, but in reality it was a mixture of 4 things. Watching her take her last breath will live with me forever. The NHS and the staff there are absolutely remarkable people. Theyve been brilliant thoughout. Regards covid, I really wish there was a proper treatment plan, rather than vaccinations. She was covid free 3 days before she died and the ward she was on was downgraded from a covid ward to medium risk. Anyway Im waffling. X Being there will make it easier as time passes. I looked on it as a privilege. Being there at the death of a parent and the birth of a child completes life’s cycle and puts everything in context, a kind of karma. Condolences pal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waffer cup 07 Posted October 3, 2021 Share Posted October 3, 2021 6 minutes ago, gonzo said: Takes a lot to offend me I've done a lot of soul searching over the past 6 days camped by mums beside watching a fairly healthy 70 year old body shut down before my eyes. She had a fucked liver, but the body couldn't fix it because she had covid and then pneumonia. The body couldn't fix the covid because her liver was pumping bad shit instead of good shit round her body. Do I resent people living normally in the midst of covid? Do I balls. I resent the virus itself and however it was made but we couldn't lockdown forever. I was one of the its just flu brigade, never thought it could take a woman like my mum. Without the bashed in liver, she'd have probably survived. But make no mistake its a cunt of a virus. Her cause of death will be covid, but in reality it was a mixture of 4 things. Watching her take her last breath will live with me forever. The NHS and the staff there are absolutely remarkable people. Theyve been brilliant thoughout. Regards covid, I really wish there was a proper treatment plan, rather than vaccinations. She was covid free 3 days before she died and the ward she was on was downgraded from a covid ward to medium risk. Anyway Im waffling. X Genuinely gutted for you, mate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MancWanderer Posted October 3, 2021 Share Posted October 3, 2021 Condolences @gonzo Brings back terribly sad memories of the MiL who died last year of that combination of cancer, pneumonia and COVID Agree that the NHS staff are remarkable. Hope you get on as best you can pal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
royal white Posted October 3, 2021 Share Posted October 3, 2021 https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-10054055/Dr-Hilary-Jones-country-home-targeted-vicious-anti-vaxxers.html what the fuck is wrong with these people Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted October 3, 2021 Site Supporter Share Posted October 3, 2021 Condolences Gonzo. Unfortunately, as I'm sure others can back up, viruses are difficult to treat and even moreso cure. Hence vaccinations. All the best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted October 3, 2021 Site Supporter Share Posted October 3, 2021 8 minutes ago, royal white said: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-10054055/Dr-Hilary-Jones-country-home-targeted-vicious-anti-vaxxers.html what the fuck is wrong with these people https://inews.co.uk/news/health/shadow-health-secretary-condemns-london-marathon-antivax-protestors-1229910 I saw a sign but couldn't make it out. Then when I saw your link I thought the signs were similar, so checked it out. Give them a thumping. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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