Escobarp Posted October 12, 2021 Posted October 12, 2021 21 minutes ago, mickbrown said: How are they recording them? I've no idea. Italy weren’t recording care home deaths at the start and then it was well publicized a number of countries were recording cause of death differently to us in respect of our a positive test within 28 days. Maybe it’s changed. I can’t see why it would have but maybe it has Quote
stevieb Posted October 12, 2021 Posted October 12, 2021 51 minutes ago, mickbrown said: France. 7 day average 36. Italy. 7 day average 38 Spain. 7 day average 43 Brexit to blame then. Clearly. Fwiw.... Mask mandates still apply on the tube... Today and yesterday probably 50% if that complying. Everyone is cracking on. Quote
mickbrown Posted October 12, 2021 Posted October 12, 2021 14 minutes ago, Escobarp said: Italy weren’t recording care home deaths at the start and then it was well publicized a number of countries were recording cause of death differently to us in respect of our a positive test within 28 days. Maybe it’s changed. I can’t see why it would have but maybe it has Had a dig and I can't find anything that says how many days other countries use as a cut off. Quote
Escobarp Posted October 12, 2021 Posted October 12, 2021 12 minutes ago, mickbrown said: Had a dig and I can't find anything that says how many days other countries use as a cut off. Not sure it was that I recall more that we just attribute every death as covid if positive test within 28 days some weee doing it if covid was deemed the cause, one country which escapes me was only recording hospital deaths for a long period as well. Might have been Italy. anyway I gave up looking at case numbers deaths and listening to any of it many weeks ago now. Quote
Tonge moor green jacket Posted October 12, 2021 Posted October 12, 2021 25 minutes ago, stevieb said: Brexit to blame then. Clearly. Fwiw.... Mask mandates still apply on the tube... Today and yesterday probably 50% if that complying. Everyone is cracking on. Plenty of European nations started vaccinating children far sooner than we have. Numbers now very high in those groups. Need to see where we are once more are jabbed. Quote
stevieb Posted October 12, 2021 Posted October 12, 2021 8 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: Plenty of European nations started vaccinating children far sooner than we have. Numbers now very high in those groups. Need to see where we are once more are jabbed. Numbers of cases high. Deaths or severe illness in young ens insanely low. My lads got 11 in his class tested positive and they're all sat at home playing fortnite. Don't need to vaccinate them. FACT Quote
Tonge moor green jacket Posted October 12, 2021 Posted October 12, 2021 2 minutes ago, stevieb said: Numbers of cases high. Deaths or severe illness in young ens insanely low. My lads got 11 in his class tested positive and they're all sat at home playing fortnite. Don't need to vaccinate them. FACT Wrong. Deaths are low, however vaccinated people are now shown to pass on the virus less than un vaccinated. Hence it spreads more. Plus kids might not die, but they can still have lasting effects which can affect schooling etc I've put links up so I'm sure you can find them. The jcvi only looks at the medical benefit for kids, and not the educational benefit, nor the potential benefit for the wider population. As explained by the top mon. Quote
stevieb Posted October 12, 2021 Posted October 12, 2021 39 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: Wrong. 👍 Quote
stevieb Posted October 12, 2021 Posted October 12, 2021 42 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: The jcvi only looks at the medical benefit for kids As they should. When assessing a medical benefit for a medical procedure. Quote
Traf Posted October 12, 2021 Posted October 12, 2021 2 hours ago, Winchester White said: So who are dying then? People with cancer, other terminal illnesses, old age and run over by buses within 28 days of a positive covid test. Quote
royal white Posted October 13, 2021 Posted October 13, 2021 There’s still people on social media, supposedly educated people with large amounts of followers, comparing us with Sweden and how them not locking down was a success 🤦♂️ They’ve also highlighted how texas and Florida coming out lockdown early and easing restrictions was a success. I’m not sure what data they’re using but it’s not the same as I’m reading . Quote
Zico Posted October 13, 2021 Posted October 13, 2021 54 minutes ago, royal white said: There’s still people on social media, supposedly educated people with large amounts of followers, comparing us with Sweden and how them not locking down was a success 🤦♂️ Its not @boltondiveris it? Quote
Winchester White Posted October 13, 2021 Posted October 13, 2021 9 hours ago, Traf said: People with cancer, other terminal illnesses, old age and run over by buses within 28 days of a positive covid test. Yeah fair one, not really a perfect way of counting covid deaths is it. Thought I would put this here instead of the politics thread given yesterdays report... Quote
bolton_blondie Posted October 13, 2021 Posted October 13, 2021 Just now, Winchester White said: Yeah fair one, not really a perfect way of counting covid deaths is it. Thought I would put this here instead of the politics thread given yesterdays report... Lovely. Boris with his chippy tits first thing in the morning. Quote
mickbrown Posted October 13, 2021 Posted October 13, 2021 (edited) Perfect time for a holiday for Johnson. Out of the country while the pandemic response is slagged off. Coincidence? Like fuck. Edited October 13, 2021 by mickbrown Quote
little whitt Posted October 13, 2021 Posted October 13, 2021 9 hours ago, Traf said: People with cancer, other terminal illnesses, old age and run over by buses within 28 days of a positive covid test. THIS Quote
Sweep Posted October 13, 2021 Posted October 13, 2021 10 hours ago, Traf said: People with cancer, other terminal illnesses, old age and run over by buses within 28 days of a positive covid test. I hear this trotted out quite often - are there actually any documented cases of somebody being squished by a bus, and the death being put down to COVID? - not that it matters, but I'm assuming it must have happened, for folk to keep referring to it Quote
BobyBrno Posted October 13, 2021 Posted October 13, 2021 It’s being said that the Bond film is behind the spike in cases. There will no doubt be a spike in cases in Bolton due to the packed trains and trams travelling to Wednesday on Saturday. Quote
Spider Posted October 13, 2021 Author Posted October 13, 2021 I was out in manc on Saturday and everywhere was heaving. Shoulder to shoulder in every bar. I just think it’s reached it’s zenith at 30/40k cases per day. In any case, we’ve done our bit. The vaccine is plainly suppressing the virus so let’s just crack on and Build Back Gary Glitter Quote
Guest Posted October 13, 2021 Posted October 13, 2021 3 hours ago, Zico said: Its not @boltondiveris it? No But I would imagine that Sweden continues to compare favourably? Quote
Winchester White Posted October 13, 2021 Posted October 13, 2021 What's the rules in scotchland @Escobarp? Going up there at half term and don't want to upset the locals Quote
royal white Posted October 13, 2021 Posted October 13, 2021 1 hour ago, boltondiver said: No But I would imagine that Sweden continues to compare favourably? Not with their neighbours they don’t Quote
Guest Posted October 13, 2021 Posted October 13, 2021 14 minutes ago, royal white said: Not with their neighbours they don’t But with other European nations? Quote
royal white Posted October 13, 2021 Posted October 13, 2021 32 minutes ago, boltondiver said: But with other European nations? Surely a comparison with those next door is who we should be comparing with for an honest reflection? Quote
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