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Posted
28 minutes ago, royal white said:

I’m not letting this drop off the first page 

Why? 

My mum has just turned up at my house. She's double jabbed. 

She's isolated for 10 days after a positive test.. Still tests positive now. 

Apparently the government says she's allowed to go about life freely... Despite testing positive. 

Clown 

World 

 

 

Posted
11 minutes ago, stevieb said:

Why? 

My mum has just turned up at my house. She's double jabbed. 

She's isolated for 10 days after a positive test.. Still tests positive now. 

Apparently the government says she's allowed to go about life freely... Despite testing positive. 

Clown 

World 

 

 

She will test positive for a good while longer yet so I am not sure what you are getting at? Also, why test again anyway?

Posted (edited)
21 minutes ago, stevieb said:

Why? 

My mum has just turned up at my house. She's double jabbed. 

She's isolated for 10 days after a positive test.. Still tests positive now. 

Apparently the government says she's allowed to go about life freely... Despite testing positive. 

Clown 

World

You can keep testing positive for a few months after the initial positive result, even though you no longer carry the virus.

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/your-coronavirus-questions-answered-could-you-still-test-positive-for-covid-19-months-after-the-infection/2021/09/24/42ed9d4a-1be3-11ec-8380-5fbadbc43ef8_story.html

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People who get infected with the coronavirus can test positive for quite a while, but that does not mean they are still contagious to others. One expert said that although people who receive an initial positive test result should certainly assume they are infectious and act accordingly, they do not need a negative result after the recommended isolation period. Some people have continued to test positive for months after an infection with the coronavirus.

 

This is more likely to happen when using polymerase chain reaction (PCR) tests, which are the gold standard but are also very sensitive in detecting remnants of the coronavirus. The test is designed to look for evidence of viral RNA — the genetic material of the coronavirus — and the human body can shed viral RNA for a long time as it is getting rid of the virus, said Jennifer Nuzzo, a senior scholar at the Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security. But, she said, the test could be simply detecting fragments of RNA — not the whole, active virus, which would be required to infect other individuals.

 

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Posted
15 minutes ago, Spider said:

Infections dropping again.

If it worries you, stay home.

They'll probably increase again too 

Reckon we'll get to 100k a day soon enough

Posted
8 hours ago, Cheese said:

So PCR tests are bobbins then. Got it 

CDC in America have said as much and are pulling them... But not until the end of the year 

https://www.cdc.gov/csels/dls/locs/2021/07-21-2021-lab-alert-Changes_CDC_RT-PCR_SARS-CoV-2_Testing_1.html

Anyway..I sent my mum packing without a brew because neither of us were convinced about 'the rules'. 

Fucking shite the lot of it. 

 

Posted
7 minutes ago, Zico said:

They'll probably increase again too 

Reckon we'll get to 100k a day soon enough

Nah

its dropping week on week.

One think tank (I know I know) reckons the kids are now almost at herd immunity so will be slowing the spread right down.

hope so.

Posted
1 hour ago, stevieb said:

So PCR tests are bobbins then. Got it 

CDC in America have said as much and are pulling them... But not until the end of the year 

https://www.cdc.gov/csels/dls/locs/2021/07-21-2021-lab-alert-Changes_CDC_RT-PCR_SARS-CoV-2_Testing_1.html

Anyway..I sent my mum packing without a brew because neither of us were convinced about 'the rules'. 

Fucking shite the lot of it. 

 

Pcr tests aren't bobbins at all. What a ridiculous statement. It could be argued that they're too good.

If however, a different test is preferable, then someone will develop one won't they.

Posted
1 hour ago, Spider said:

Nah

its dropping week on week.

One think tank (I know I know) reckons the kids are now almost at herd immunity so will be slowing the spread right down.

hope so.

All good, just need boosters getting sorted, as it's believed part of our high numbers is due to waning immunity. Will be interesting to see if numbers rise again in Europe as they approach 6 months since the second vaccination. 

Posted
3 hours ago, Spider said:

Nah

its dropping week on week.

One think tank (I know I know) reckons the kids are now almost at herd immunity so will be slowing the spread right down.

hope so.

well, the 7 day average has dropped week on week from 46k last week to 42k yesterday, but it'd been growing week on week since mid September when it was 29k a week - last two times we saw a drop, we then saw a spike, but hopefully not this time

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should also be noted, that's confirmed cases, they don't include folk doing their own LFTs at home - ZOE has access to some of that data, and using their data modelling (I know I know), they reckon it's much higher because of this

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time will tell

 

Posted
17 minutes ago, waffer cup 07 said:

Glad to hear, it still amazes me why they allowed it to get to 50,000 a day.

How many people have flu today?

Posted
14 hours ago, stevieb said:

Why? 

My mum has just turned up at my house. She's double jabbed. 

She's isolated for 10 days after a positive test.. Still tests positive now. 

Apparently the government says she's allowed to go about life freely... Despite testing positive. 

Clown 

World 

 

 

So people like yourself can tell me how your mums getting on. 👍

Posted
16 hours ago, stevieb said:

Why? 

My mum has just turned up at my house. She's double jabbed. 

She's isolated for 10 days after a positive test.. Still tests positive now. 

Apparently the government says she's allowed to go about life freely... Despite testing positive. 

Clown 

World 

 

 

Surely you had read all about this while doing your research?

 

 

And wtf is your mother wandering about at midnight for. :)

 

Posted (edited)
6 minutes ago, waffer cup 07 said:

Why???

Because it kills the same proportion of people now that the vaccine is fully implemented.

Why aren’t we masking up for the flu?

Look, I was right behind the restrictions, and I’ll have the booster when my time comes. But Covid is now no more deadly than flu. We should treat it the same way.

If people don’t want a jab because they think Bill Gates wants to smell their kidneys, that’s up to them. But we’re so over it now.

Edited by Spider
Posted
19 minutes ago, waffer cup 07 said:

Why???

You’ll have noticed on this forum that there are a wide range of political views. Many mistakes were made at the early stages of the pandemic. The government will be judged on their handling of it. 

You’ve probably also noticed that not many people agree with you. Your making comparisons with your own situation in Spain (I’m assuming your still there) Like I’ve said before, your comparing Spanish oranges with English apples.

I know more about the Czech Republic than Spain and their rates have suddenly shot up, again. I’ve no doubt Spain will suffer the same.
The situation is constantly changing. It’s not going away.

Posted
5 minutes ago, BobyBrno said:

You’ll have noticed on this forum that there are a wide range of political views. Many mistakes were made at the early stages of the pandemic. The government will be judged on their handling of it. 

You’ve probably also noticed that not many people agree with you. Your making comparisons with your own situation in Spain (I’m assuming your still there) Like I’ve said before, your comparing Spanish oranges with English apples.

I know more about the Czech Republic than Spain and their rates have suddenly shot up, again. I’ve no doubt Spain will suffer the same.
The situation is constantly changing. It’s not going away.

I actually think the government did ok-Ish. The real scandal was their handing put of money to friends and you’d hope that all comes back to fuck them hard.

However, the vaccine and return to normality has, in my non-medical opinion, gone pretty well.

I was happy (well, not happy but you know what I mean) abiding by lockdowns, mask mandates and all the testing, but I see the numbers and think it’s sadly something we must live with and keep to a minimum. We will never be rid of it.

Posted
29 minutes ago, Spider said:

...Why aren’t we masking up for the flu?

...but Covid is now no more deadly than flu...

Why aren't we wearing masks for the 'flu?

Already got my first cold of the winter, after a long long period of not having catching one - roughly tallying with preponderance of hand sanitising and mask-wearing amongst the great unwashed.

I think wearing a mask when folk are on top of each other and there's no alternative (supermarkets, public transport, airports/planes etc.) is no great hardship.

And 'flu still is a killer - most NHS get jabbed voluntarily each year, it's also a gateway ilness to pneumonia and it puts pressure on services.

Defeffal and chums won't bring back mandatory mask-wearing purely on grounds of populism.

Posted
50 minutes ago, Spider said:

I actually think the government did ok-Ish. The real scandal was their handing put of money to friends and you’d hope that all comes back to fuck them hard.

However, the vaccine and return to normality has, in my non-medical opinion, gone pretty well.

I was happy (well, not happy but you know what I mean) abiding by lockdowns, mask mandates and all the testing, but I see the numbers and think it’s sadly something we must live with and keep to a minimum. We will never be rid of it.

If the scientists have got it right, and let's remember when it goes to shit its on them, their advice to go early on getting folk infected pre winter, will be a fucking masterstroke 

Let's just get the boosters

Posted
1 hour ago, Casino said:

If the scientists have got it right, and let's remember when it goes to shit its on them, their advice to go early on getting folk infected pre winter, will be a fucking masterstroke 

Let's just get the boosters

And the Anti vaxxers GETTING DEAD 

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