Not in Crawley Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 8 minutes ago, Zico said: Its quite noticeable of a morning when the little one watches either cbeebies (nice and educational) v milkshake on C5 (grotesque adverts for every toy under the sun) Fine by me Im probably also in minroity but there's something about Nadine Dorris I'd like to do sexy things with, 20 years ago preferably, but would be open to it now Wrinkle tits. Look at the video. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
athywhite1958 Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 22 minutes ago, Not in Crawley said: Wrinkle tits. Look at the video. ....and your point is? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Zico Posted January 18, 2022 Moderators Share Posted January 18, 2022 Thought about it some more Maybe I'm just old school There's nowt the bbc offer that can't be found elsewhere If it dissolved tomorrow i wouldn't notice Im happy for it to stay and pay my licence, but times change and on demand subscription based services are the future See you later radio 3 You wouldn't be missed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 The service the radios stations offer alone are worth the fee. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Cheese Posted January 18, 2022 Site Supporter Share Posted January 18, 2022 2 minutes ago, Zico said: Thought about it some more Maybe I'm just old school There's nowt the bbc offer that can't be found elsewhere If it dissolved tomorrow i wouldn't notice Im happy for it to stay and pay my licence, but times change and on demand subscription based services are the future See you later radio 3 You wouldn't be missed I genuinely think you would. Like most things in life, you don't know what you've got till it's gone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Zico Posted January 19, 2022 Moderators Share Posted January 19, 2022 11 hours ago, Cheese said: I genuinely think you would. Like most things in life, you don't know what you've got till it's gone. to a degree I use iPlayer - but not that much compared to other platforms MOTD? can get highlights elsewhere stuff with Brian Cox in, yes, but I'm sure he'd rock up elsewhere too last show I watched on there was The Serpent, plenty good shows elsewhere I'd miss 5 Live Footy driving home after the match can't remember that last time I sat down and watch scheduled BBC programs I think this generation coming through wouldn't bat an eyelid if it was gone in 20 years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Youri McAnespie Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 I'd nob that uppity scouse scrubber Esther McVey, solely to bring her down a peg or two, so your dad sold a few carpets or whatever. Now you think you're a duchess, you're a Liverpudlian tramp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farrelli Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 (edited) BBC still do great dramas IMO and have the most trustworthy News coverage. The radio stations cater for everyone 6music to R4 or 5live. They also deliver fantastic coverage of global sports events (Olympics, World Cup, etc). I would rather this government was disbanded as they are not fit to make such decisions. Dorries is so well informed she claimed C4 should do more with the licence fee money not long ago the dozy cow. Edited January 19, 2022 by Farrelli Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not in Crawley Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 11 hours ago, Zico said: Thought about it some more Maybe I'm just old school There's nowt the bbc offer that can't be found elsewhere If it dissolved tomorrow i wouldn't notice Im happy for it to stay and pay my licence, but times change and on demand subscription based services are the future See you later radio 3 You wouldn't be missed In all seriousness, Radio 3 will be missed. I'll miss it for one, I'm not listening to that ghastly and common Classic FM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Spider Posted January 19, 2022 Site Supporter Share Posted January 19, 2022 A BBC with advertising money coming in would probably knock SkySports into a cocked hat. And BT Sport. BBC for £15/20 a month with all the footy and cricket? Maybe Murdoch is hoping to buy them to stop that happening. Run it into the ground. Fuck knows. To be honest, if everyone stopped streaming stuff on cheap boxes like massive peasants it might not be so expensive to start with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomski Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 34 minutes ago, Spider said: A BBC with advertising money coming in would probably knock SkySports into a cocked hat. And BT Sport. BBC for £15/20 a month with all the footy and cricket? Maybe Murdoch is hoping to buy them to stop that happening. Run it into the ground. Fuck knows. To be honest, if everyone stopped streaming stuff on cheap boxes like massive peasants it might not be so expensive to start with. I think that doesn’t make a jot of difference to be honest. Hardly reasonable before the explode of sticks etc. The chipped boxes before that were so few and far between that I can’t factor them in. Fwiw I’m a semi peasant as I have both full and stick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Cherry Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 1 hour ago, Zico said: to a degree I use iPlayer - but not that much compared to other platforms MOTD? can get highlights elsewhere stuff with Brian Cox in, yes, but I'm sure he'd rock up elsewhere too last show I watched on there was The Serpent, plenty good shows elsewhere I'd miss 5 Live Footy driving home after the match can't remember that last time I sat down and watch scheduled BBC programs I think this generation coming through wouldn't bat an eyelid if it was gone in 20 years I agree with all that. plus the fact that you HAVE to pay for it. Effectively with the threat of bailiffs and court if you don't. That can't be right and younger generation aren't going to stand for that either. Think someone was saying it works out at 43p per day? Netflix is 20 odd p per day sorry but know which I prefer and I don't have to have Netflix. Then there's Gary Lineker on over a million a year.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Zico Posted January 19, 2022 Moderators Share Posted January 19, 2022 14 minutes ago, Max Cherry said: I agree with all that. plus the fact that you HAVE to pay for it. Effectively with the threat of bailiffs and court if you don't. That can't be right and younger generation aren't going to stand for that either. Think someone was saying it works out at 43p per day? Netflix is 20 odd p per day sorry but know which I prefer and I don't have to have Netflix. Then there's Gary Lineker on over a million a year.... Aye, it's an outdated concept in terms of how it's paid for and utilised Public service broadcasting, all good, but only if the public want it so to speak And other channels i believe are required to have a degree of PSB programs Was posted elsewhere in relation to something else, but it's equally apt here Your old road is rapidly agin' Please get out of the new one If you can't lend your hand For the times they are a-changin' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not in Crawley Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 Netflix is built on debt, a fuck load of debt, have a look. $15 billion worth of debt. The pandemic has been a boon for it and has helped speed up its return to actually having money. But the comparision, whilst understandable (''I have Netflix, I have the BBC and I'm forced to pay for one, but not the other'') isn't like for like, nor could the BBC operate in this fashion (if it did, well it wouldn't be able to be the BBC anymore) You also don't get sent to court or jail-time since 2020. The younger generation actually are not adverse to paying into a collective pot for the BBC - its the older generations who seem to get het up about it - actually its the middle age group. Finally, the BBC does have three commercial divisions - BBC Studios (works with the independent sector and generates 1 and a half billion - returning a % to the BBC group, meaning they can pay the salaries of higher earners to keep talent at the organisation rather than having them poached by commerical organisations eg Gary Lineker), BBC Global News(what is says on the tin and is viewed worldwide on a commercial rate) and BBC Studioworks (technical support on TV productions) The headlines are always about presenters salaries (esp presenters people certain people don't like) but its under 10% of total content spend - and that's everyone, all talent wages which is tiny. Tiny, tiny, tiny. As I say, it's a bone to throw out that is picked up and run with. But as was shown this week - even the Conservatives think cutting national subsidy is a barmpot idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not in Crawley Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 9 minutes ago, Zico said: Aye, it's an outdated concept in terms of how it's paid for and utilised Public service broadcasting, all good, but only if the public want it so to speak And other channels i believe are required to have a degree of PSB programs Was posted elsewhere in relation to something else, but it's equally apt here Your old road is rapidly agin' Please get out of the new one If you can't lend your hand For the times they are a-changin' You are trying to compare like for like and that's not how the landscape operates, it also works on the basis that the BBC is only has linear TV output, which as outlined, isn't the case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Zico Posted January 19, 2022 Moderators Share Posted January 19, 2022 2 minutes ago, Not in Crawley said: You are trying to compare like for like and that's not how the landscape operates, it also works on the basis that the BBC is only has linear TV output, which as outlined, isn't the case. The point im ultimately making is the tv licence is an outdated concept and it needs a rethink if the bbc is to survive long term We're all emotionally attached tp it and sentimental because we grew up with it and consumed it daily My nearly 4 year old daughters go to is netflix and iPlayer isnt the only place she can watch bluey and hey duggee It's an outdated concept, sooner or later folk will just stop paying for it if they don't use it Do folk still come and knock on doors to check if you're using TV? You don't even need a TV these days to consume entertainment, you just need to be online I hope it sticks around But find it hard to argue that everyone is obliged to pay for it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not in Crawley Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 7 minutes ago, Zico said: The point im ultimately making is the tv licence is an outdated concept and it needs a rethink if the bbc is to survive long term We're all emotionally attached tp it and sentimental because we grew up with it and consumed it daily My nearly 4 year old daughters go to is netflix and iPlayer isnt the only place she can watch bluey and hey duggee It's an outdated concept, sooner or later folk will just stop paying for it if they don't use it Do folk still come and knock on doors to check if you're using TV? You don't even need a TV these days to consume entertainment, you just need to be online I hope it sticks around But find it hard to argue that everyone is obliged to pay for it Whilst I'm unconviced that a payment towards a national broadcaster is an outdated idea - its the very idea of it that is its value. I'm yet to hear of a workable alternative that delievers on quality, independance, value for spend, collectivism, creativity and commerical outputs that is beholden to us, the public, to represent all views (I know certain people think there's some liberal agenda at work) How many other broadcasters regularly have content that critisies themselves? From right to reply to panorama. You say you don't need a TV - true, so just change the name from TV licence. Inform, Educated and Entertain - I think those are values which the current model allows better than a purely commercial output and are worth defending against half-baked ideas that the BBC is an irrelvance in the digital world when it has led on many digital media innovations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted January 19, 2022 Moderators Share Posted January 19, 2022 2 hours ago, tomski said: I think that doesn’t make a jot of difference to be honest. Hardly reasonable before the explode of sticks etc. The chipped boxes before that were so few and far between that I can’t factor them in. Fwiw I’m a semi peasant as I have both full and stick. Me too Stick just for stuff I cant get on terrestrial, sky, amazon, netflix and Disney! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Zico Posted January 19, 2022 Moderators Share Posted January 19, 2022 1 hour ago, Not in Crawley said: Whilst I'm unconviced that a payment towards a national broadcaster is an outdated idea - its the very idea of it that is its value. I'm yet to hear of a workable alternative that delievers on quality, independance, value for spend, collectivism, creativity and commerical outputs that is beholden to us, the public, to represent all views (I know certain people think there's some liberal agenda at work) How many other broadcasters regularly have content that critisies themselves? From right to reply to panorama. You say you don't need a TV - true, so just change the name from TV licence. Inform, Educated and Entertain - I think those are values which the current model allows better than a purely commercial output and are worth defending against half-baked ideas that the BBC is an irrelvance in the digital world when it has led on many digital media innovations. first bit in bold - there probably isn't one second bit - rebadging it won't change much, they'd have to go with a generic name that doesn't suggest your paying for the BBC, or, brand it and give folk even more reason to resist paying end of the day, we both place great value in it, that's why we pay for it I just don't see why someone else who has no inclination to use it should have to pay for something just because other people think is of value maybe the BBC need to move to a more subscription based offering, then see how much money they bring in and if they have to, streamline their output / cut their cloth accordingly or look elsewhere for funding - perhaps they could charge the likes of netflix more to show their programs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not in Crawley Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 just don't see why someone else who has no inclination to use it should have to pay for something just because other people think is of value if that's the case, than you fundamentally don't agree with the come principle of a public broadcaster, which is fair enough. I do, and I think we would be a much poorer country without it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayjayoghani Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 Lived in 3 countries now, commercial TV is fucking awful. It's only public paid or subsidised broadcasting that's comes anywhere near worth watching or even the least bit educational. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Zico Posted January 20, 2022 Moderators Share Posted January 20, 2022 So as to feel I'm getting my money's worth, now make a point of only listening to radio 5 in the car Just had Radacanu on at the Australian open, never listened to tennis on the radio before fuck me its hard work trying to keep up whilst visualizing what might be going on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Spider Posted January 20, 2022 Site Supporter Share Posted January 20, 2022 10 minutes ago, Zico said: So as to feel I'm getting my money's worth, now make a point of only listening to radio 5 in the car Just had Radacanu on at the Australian open, never listened to tennis on the radio before fuck me its hard work trying to keep up whilst visualizing what might be going on She’s looking like losing here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deane koontz Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 2 hours ago, Spider said: She’s looking like losing here She'll be turning foreign soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traf Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 US Open looking like more of a fluke everytime she picks a racquet up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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