Brand Evatt

[Zico]

39 minutes ago, Cheese said:

I agree that if we don't go up this season he's obviously finished. But there's 30 games left to play, and we're not far off where we need to be. He's had a couple of resurgences in his time here after being written off, so I'm keeping the faith for the moment.

30 games is a lot

we have a big run of 8 games coming up largely against teams above or just below us

we cannot afford to falling any further behind in those games or letting them below get past us

fuck knows what the table will look like with 22 games left

hopefully we will be in reach of the top two and not falling further behind

the latter wouldn't get him sacked either though because we'd still have half a season and a transfer window left

 

[tomski]

44 minutes ago, Zico said:

30 games is a lot

we have a big run of 8 games coming up largely against teams above or just below us

we cannot afford to falling any further behind in those games or letting them below get past us

fuck knows what the table will look like with 22 games left

hopefully we will be in reach of the top two and not falling further behind

the latter wouldn't get him sacked either though because we'd still have half a season and a transfer window left

 

We’ll be 10th or 11th

[Traf]

4 hours ago, barrycowdrill said:

There’s also many reasons we might average 1 ppg too… 😁

true

[gonzo]

It would seriously take something special for us not to take the play offs.

As long as that's on, he's going nowhere. Bar an absolutely horrendous run and some heavy spankings in big games.

[Horwich]

We had a +35 goal difference last season.

We have had further investment and are now on minus one goal difference.

He is lucky that its a poor div one and he still has a job.

He needs to go now and lets see if we can resurrect the season.

We can’t waste another transfer window. 

[Traf]

My main gripe with Evatt is more of a generalised one in that he's not as clever as he thinks he is and just a stubborn one-dimensional prick.

I'm not even over-bothered about signing players who don't really fit our system, if they're half decent, they should be able to adapt, it's the signing of players like Danny Llandudno and Scott Arfield, it's the leaving an empty squad place open after the deadline passed, it's the rushing a keeper back from injury but no cover on the bench and the lack of self discipline setting a poor example to his players and young fans watching on.

[Cheese]

5 minutes ago, Horwich said:

We had a +35 goal difference last season.

We have had further investment and are now on minus one goad difference.

He is lucky that its a poor div one and he still has a job.

He needs to go now and lets see if we can resurrect the season.

We can’t waste another transfer window. 

Pretty much everyone lauded our January and summer signings, and declared them as a statement of intent. Hindsight is easy.

Edited November 27, 2024 by Cheese

[Horwich]

Just now, Cheese said:

Pretty much everyone lauded our January and summer signings, and declared them as a statement of intent.

It isn’t our job to know every detail about the players , thats his. 

[Cheese]

Just now, Horwich said:

It isn’t our job to know every detail about the players , thats his. 

As I added above, hindsight is easy.

[Traf]

2 minutes ago, Cheese said:

Pretty much everyone lauded our January and summer signings, and declared them as a statement of intent. Hindsight is easy.

Everyone?

I think quite a few people raised their eyebrows about spending over £1m on the inferior McAtee brother.

[Cheese]

11 minutes ago, Traf said:

Everyone?

I think quite a few people raised their eyebrows about spending over £1m on the inferior McAtee brother.

"Pretty much".

Have a read through after this post:

Even you didn't raise an eyebrow.

Edited November 27, 2024 by Cheese

[barrycowdrill]

21 minutes ago, gonzo said:

. Bar an absolutely horrendous run and more heavy spankings in big games.

 

[Traf]

13 minutes ago, Cheese said:

"Pretty much".

Have a read through after this post:

Even you didn't raise an eyebrow.

I've no idea what I said yesterday, never mind nearly four months ago and I'm not as much of a sad little man trawling back through threads to perpetuate an argument.

It must be fucking exhausting being you, it's hard enough reading you.

[Cheese]

30 minutes ago, Traf said:

I've no idea what I said yesterday, never mind nearly four months ago and I'm not as much of a sad little man trawling back through threads to perpetuate an argument.

It must be fucking exhausting being you, it's hard enough reading you.

I just did a search for "McAtee" and went back to the earliest mention of him. Took about 30 seconds, then another 30 to scroll down and see if anyone was against him signing. I am exhausted. I should probably just post hindsight opinions, like you.

Edited November 27, 2024 by Cheese

[gonzo]

1 hour ago, Horwich said:

We had a +35 goal difference last season.

We have had further investment and are now on minus one goal difference.

He is lucky that its a poor div one and he still has a job.

He needs to go now and lets see if we can resurrect the season.

We can’t waste another transfer window. 

I thought last season was the weakest league in years and this one was going the be strongest since sliced bread?

[Zico]

13 minutes ago, gonzo said:

I thought last season was the weakest league in years and this one was going the be strongest since sliced bread?

Think everyone expected Brum to walk away with it but that's not happening so far 

But other than Wycombe the current to six is made up of teams expected to be there, only Rotherham missing from what you'd expect 

And us of course, I thought we'd be challenging for top 2 by now

Instead We're in 8th showing we can't afford the blips that cost us last year 

[nantwichwhite]

We are a poor side in a poor league, we all know we have the players to do better. Teams with much lower budgets are matching us or beating us. They find a way, the fact that we can't is down to Evatt.

Also we all know he is not going to be sacked for the foreseeable future. I am hoping we limp to promotion like Phil Neal's side. It's the hope that kills you.

 

[Greg_BWFC]

1 hour ago, Zico said:

Think everyone expected Brum to walk away with it but that's not happening so far 

But other than Wycombe the current to six is made up of teams expected to be there, only Rotherham missing from what you'd expect 

And us of course, I thought we'd be challenging for top 2 by now

Instead We're in 8th showing we can't afford the blips that cost us last year 

We already are, aren't we ?

Exeter and Shrewsbury at home, last night.

Sorry but that has to be 9 points (and I really don't care that Shrewsbury beat Birmingham, I'm not a Birmingham fan).

Instead we got 2.

For all the stick Evatt is getting, the players need to get a grip too.

[Zico]

6 minutes ago, Greg_BWFC said:

We already are, aren't we ?

Exeter and Shrewsbury at home, last night.

Sorry but that has to be 9 points (and I really don't care that Shrewsbury beat Birmingham, I'm not a Birmingham fan).

Instead we got 2.

For all the stick Evatt is getting, the players need to get a grip too.

Yes, we are, that was my point, the table shows they are costing us

We've had 5 defeats already this and in each we simply didn't show up

After 16 games last season we'd won 11, on 35 points and only had Wigan and Carlisle no shows 

We're off the pace that's for sure

[Dr. Feelgood]

10 hours ago, desperado said:

In my defence it wasn’t a well explained post, just words and  numbers with no explanation or context.

We all have our lapses, you more than most 😊

Haa. Touché. 😅

I'll get you back. Don't walk in dark places.

[masi 51]

2 hours ago, Cheese said:

Pretty much everyone lauded our January and summer signings, and declared them as a statement of intent. Hindsight is easy.

Collins i thought was a great signing in January. The summer signings i never knew about any of them apart from Mcatee and Matete.

We have paid over the odds for McAtee and certainly over the odds for Schon though he is getting better the longer the season goes on. I thought Matete may do a job for us remembering him from Grimsby and Fleetwood.......Southwood i found strange unless he knew Baxter is off come the summer. Forino, TuTu and Lolos are not better than we all ready have on the bench and came with injury issues. The same as Williams, Baxter Gomes and Dempsey previously.

Baxter has been a decent keeper while he has been here and Dempsey has had some great spells the others have just been a gamble to far.

I think McAtee may come good eventually but it will wide in a midfield 4 or upfront in a 2.........Neither will be under Evatt

 

[ianofcleveleys]

2 hours ago, gonzo said:

I thought last season was the weakest league in years and this one was going the be strongest since sliced bread?

Not necessarily the strongest, more that it'd be competitive, with more teams of a similar level taking points off each other and teams coming up ready to have a go. It's largely panning out like that, with a top 8 slowly starting to form. An odd one will drop out and another push their way in no doubt

[ianofcleveleys]

3 hours ago, Cheese said:

Pretty much everyone lauded our January and summer signings, and declared them as a statement of intent. Hindsight is easy.

You can put me in the 'not pretty much everyone' camp. In Jan, could see the point re Collins, some bad luck with Taylor and Ramsay. Underwhelmed with summer as I didn't see it addressing what I felt were the shortfalls last season. It hasn't. 

[Johnnyrotten]

9 hours ago, Traf said:

No reason why we can't average 2pts per game through that run.

As for January, what I'm hearing is that there's no money and Morley will be sold for cash or he comes back as 'a new signing'.

4 home games out of 6, all against teams having worse seasons than us on paper, and an away game at Bristol - we should be getting 12 points.  Easier said than done but if our points return is in single figures its definitely another nail in the promotion coffin.

[Johnnyrotten]

6 hours ago, barrycowdrill said:

I said this before on this thread, no one knows for sure of course but in the longer term I think (yes an opinion) the only way he stays is if we are promoted at the end of the season. Regardless of whether thats 1st, 2nd or 6th. 
 

he was uncertain himself after Wembley whether he could give it anymore and take us that one step further. It isn’t too far off the realms of reality to conclude if we don’t get there after another shot Evatt will recognise it’s not happening. 
 

He could get us 6th which technically is 3 steps back from last season but still get us up which then turns in to progress. literally anything other than promotion is going backwards. 

There's another scenario of "progress".  And that's taking on toe to toe and beating a promotion rival, preferably away from home.  We could go to Wrexham or Huddersfield, win 2-1 coming from behind, then beat Birmingham 2-0 and Stockport 3-1 at home.  We could then finish 3rd behind Birmingham and Wycombe (no disgrace with their current form) and get to the play off final, playing Huddersfield.  We come from behind to draw the game 2-2 AET, and lose on pens. 

I know it seems far fetched but that would be progress - we would be competing in the bigger games instead of just not turning up.