Meanwhile In England

[Sweep]

24 minutes ago, Casino said:

that horrible bastard ferrari reckons the daft bitch who suggested torching a mosque or whatever, shouldn't have been jailed

 

caller - what if she had said buckingham palace

ermm, well, erm, wheeze

 

point is you wouldnt get near buck house, but a mosque, bit different

lock her up

Times Radio is the answer my friend 😊

[Casino]

1 minute ago, Sweep said:

Who said that they weren't full? 

id prefer not to mention him

its bad enough having cheese mk1

[Casino]

Just now, Sweep said:

Times Radio is the answer my friend 😊

is that bloke called stig still on?

 

his name isnt even stig, ffs

[bolty58]

18 minutes ago, Sweep said:

Who said that they weren't full? 

The same idiot who decided to jail people for saying such things as 'who the fuck is Allah?' etc?

Heinous crime. Let the nonces out to make way for them.

[Casino]

2 minutes ago, bolty58 said:

The same idiot who decided to jail people for saying such things as 'who the fuck is Allah?' etc?

 

No

[Zico]

stabbing in gorton

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cgedq7p8zn2o

initial thoughts are scrubbers

[Lt. Aldo Raine]

1 hour ago, Casino said:

ive asked this before but seeing as govt are getting shit for giving in to unions, i have a question

ive asked before and didn't get an answer

why are govt deciding what to offer ASLEF when they work for private companies?

To be fair, I'm almost certain you did get an answer because I remember answering it

It's because the terms of the contract between the operator and the government states the operator has to abide by the government's dispute handling policy and can incur financial penalties if they agree a pay award that excedes the mandate given to them by the government

Effectively, the operators cannot (or will not) agree a pay award without the consent of the government

[Casino]

1 hour ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said:

To be fair, I'm almost certain you did get an answer because I remember answering it

It's because the terms of the contract between the operator and the government states the operator has to abide by the government's dispute handling policy and can incur financial penalties if they agree a pay award that excedes the mandate given to them by the government

Effectively, the operators cannot (or will not) agree a pay award without the consent of the government

ok, sorry, my memory is shit

cracking deal the TOCs have that it doesnt matter to them if the trains run or not

i think thats right?

[Lt. Aldo Raine]

23 minutes ago, Casino said:

ok, sorry, my memory is shit

cracking deal the TOCs have that it doesnt matter to them if the trains run or not

i think thats right?

The only thing they really have to concern themselves with is how to spend their profits 

In fact, and I'd need to check again to be certain, but I think the majority of our railway operators are owned by foreign states and help to subsidise cheaper rail travel for their own citizens 🙃

[athywhite1958]

The trouble with all these being released under the 40% served rule is that they are now being supervised by a stretched probation service who do not want to be prison officers, the recall rate will be phenomenal, the prison's will be full again very soon

[gonzo]

https://vm.tiktok.com/ZGe3L5BMm/

 

 

[green genie]

2 hours ago, Zico said:

stabbing in gorton

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cgedq7p8zn2o

initial thoughts are scrubbers

Is it just more news outlets or is world going mad 😢

https://www.kent.police.uk/news/kent/latest/policing-news/dartford-murder-suspect-appears-in-court/
 

[Casino]

15 minutes ago, athywhite1958 said:

The trouble with all these being released under the 40% served rule is that they are now being supervised by a stretched probation service who do not want to be prison officers, the recall rate will be phenomenal, the prison's will be full again very soon

but, what do they do then

countries fucked

[Casino]

1 minute ago, green genie said:

Is it just more news outlets or is world going mad 😢

https://www.kent.police.uk/news/kent/latest/policing-news/dartford-murder-suspect-appears-in-court/
 

i think its always happened

well in the last 30/40 years anyway

[Casino]

ps its usually blokes killing women

 

[Lt. Aldo Raine]

1 minute ago, green genie said:

Is it just more news outlets or is world going mad 😢

https://www.kent.police.uk/news/kent/latest/policing-news/dartford-murder-suspect-appears-in-court/
 

The latter

[athywhite1958]

4 minutes ago, Casino said:

but, what do they do then

countries fucked

Like you say the countries fucked, the last government promised new prisons but fucked about until COVID came and took the money, as well as the millions spunked on lining their friends pockets (allegedly). A local prison (Hindley) was meant to be extended years ago but it was put off time and time again

[Lt. Aldo Raine]

 

[royal white]

2 hours ago, athywhite1958 said:

Like you say the countries fucked, the last government promised new prisons but fucked about until COVID came and took the money, as well as the millions spunked on lining their friends pockets (allegedly). A local prison (Hindley) was meant to be extended years ago but it was put off time and time again

My cousin was nicked in 2021, was sentenced to 17 years in 2023, he’s getting cat D next year. My guess is he will be out of the country come the end of next year. I have a feeling he won’t be the only one. 

[athywhite1958]

12 minutes ago, royal white said:

My cousin was nicked in 2021, was sentenced to 17 years in 2023, he’s getting cat D next year. My guess is he will be out of the country come the end of next year. I have a feeling he won’t be the only one. 

One bloke I supervise has fucked off home to Albania, been out 3 weeks

[Lt. Aldo Raine]

Not good

Granted, it may in part be due to increased reporting, and it is "police recorded" offending rather than number of convictions, but surely that alone doesn't account for such a high increase

[gonzo]

https://news.sky.com/story/teenage-driver-jake-loy-jailed-for-killing-three-friends-in-dumfries-and-galloway-crash-13199741

4 years.

He will do 2 absolute max.

 

[Tonge moor green jacket]

23 minutes ago, gonzo said:

https://news.sky.com/story/teenage-driver-jake-loy-jailed-for-killing-three-friends-in-dumfries-and-galloway-crash-13199741

4 years.

He will do 2 absolute max.

 

The social worker report's findings- well no shit Sherlock!

Also gets me when these sorts of offences are committed, that the ban from driving is so short.

8 years, is fuck all in the scheme of things- I wonder if that ban applies concurrently with his sentence or starts upon release. 

 

[royal white]

14 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

The social worker report's findings- well no shit Sherlock!

Also gets me when these sorts of offences are committed, that the ban from driving is so short.

8 years, is fuck all in the scheme of things- I wonder if that ban applies concurrently with his sentence or starts upon release. 

 

Looks like Scotland's sentences are as pathetic as ours. 
 

https://www.glasgowtimes.co.uk/news/scottish-news/24528451.man-shown-no-remorse-vile-attacks-women-glasgow/

[Tonge moor green jacket]

1 hour ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said:

Not good

Granted, it may in part be due to increased reporting, and it is "police recorded" offending rather than number of convictions, but surely that alone doesn't account for such a high increase

I would imagine there are several factors. 

I'm convinced mire than ever, that the ready availability of porn plays a part. In particular certain areas.

Unnatural behaviours being normalised.

Be interesting to see the racial/nationality profile of the reported offenders too.

Of course that will ruffle a few feathers, but there may well be some correlation.