Meanwhile In England

[Ani]

Serious question..

Is there anyone who when they hear a story like today and/or Southport and there is not a single thought  that is might be someone who is a recently arrived migrant ? 
 

It is in my mind. 

[Alf Hartigan]

49 minutes ago, Ani said:

Serious question..

Is there anyone who when they hear a story like today and/or Southport and there is not a single thought  that is might be someone who is a recently arrived migrant ? 
 

It is in my mind. 

Not generally in my thoughts. But never surprised when it is.

[Guest]

1 hour ago, Ani said:

Serious question..

Is there anyone who when they hear a story like today and/or Southport and there is not a single thought  that is might be someone who is a recently arrived migrant ? 
 

It is in my mind. 

Statistically it’s highly unlikely to be. 

[Zico]

Lad stabbed on Portland Street in Manchester 

Initial thought is scrotes

[Ani]

17 minutes ago, bwfcfan5 said:

Statistically it’s highly unlikely to be. 

If only that was the question I asked 😂

[wanderer1984]

2 hours ago, Ani said:

Serious question..

Is there anyone who when they hear a story like today and/or Southport and there is not a single thought  that is might be someone who is a recently arrived migrant ? 
 

It is in my mind. 

I assume that yes ... not as much recently arrived. All stems from recent atrocities in the last 20 years or so, not just here but around the western world.

(Not all immigrants are bombers, stabbers, shit in the street, sex offenders)

 

[mickbrown]

2 hours ago, gonzo said:

It appears they did or it was nipped in the bud pretty sharpish by all concerned.

Like I say TMGJ wasn't alone in thinking oh shit this could all go off again...especially if the dude was anything but white.

It’s proper fucked is that it’s almost ‘ok’ if he’s white. 

[gonzo]

8 hours ago, mickbrown said:

It’s proper fucked is that it’s almost ‘ok’ if he’s white. 

Even if it's black on black nobody bats an eyelid as its that common.

If that lad yesterday was a Muslim nutter the country would've gone off again.

[green genie]

Ioan Pinatru , probably another Roma to be filed with Harehills

[Guest]

11 hours ago, Ani said:

If only that was the question I asked 😂

Yeah but maybe if we followed evidence and stopped allowing people with agendas to over amplify stuff then we’d not be asking questions like this?

We do have an epidemic that sadly seems global of male violence against women and that isn’t because of immigration or foreigners it’s something that seems to be increasing in both occurrence and severity. I’d quite like someone to do something about it but it’s going to need some really hard examinations of root causes. 

[Traf]

I never automatically think that it might be an immigrant or a terrorist.

Then again, I'm not a racist either.

[BobyBrno]

7 minutes ago, bwfcfan5 said:

Yeah but maybe if we followed evidence and stopped allowing people with agendas to over amplify stuff then we’d not be asking questions like this?

We do have an epidemic that sadly seems global of male violence against women and that isn’t because of immigration or foreigners it’s something that seems to be increasing in both occurrence and severity. I’d quite like someone to do something about it but it’s going to need some really hard examinations of root causes. 

My wife doesn’t have an agenda but sees things differently. Her comment was ‘I bet it’s a man’

[Traf]

Just now, BobyBrno said:

My wife doesn’t have an agenda but sees things differently. Her comment was ‘I bet it’s a man’

There's always that angle and she'd be invariably right.

[Guest]

6 minutes ago, BobyBrno said:

My wife doesn’t have an agenda but sees things differently. Her comment was ‘I bet it’s a man’

The trouble is that a lot of pretty awful people on the left say that. And it means it becomes discredited. But it’s true. We are seeing an increase in violence against women and girls and particularly serious violence. 

It’s also very complex with a lot of factors involved and some are cultural yes in terms of cultures that have come into the country. But a lot of the drivers appear to be beyond that. It’s very sad as a society we have regressed here so badly especially when violent crime generally is at very low historic levels. 

[Casino]

43 minutes ago, Traf said:

I never automatically think that it might be an immigrant or a terrorist.

Then again, I'm not a racist either.

im with @Aniin that an early thought is that it might be an immigrant

its more 'hope its not, it gives the racists another excuse to be racist'

[Ani]

1 hour ago, Traf said:

I never automatically think that it might be an immigrant or a terrorist.

Then again, I'm not a racist either.

Not automatically mate, but when you hear a report like yesterday is there not even an inkling ? 
 

I think depending where your head is at some people will assume it is an immigrant. 
Some will think it probably is

Some will think it might be 

Some will think , let's wait and see but I hope it is nt

Some will think let's wait and see

The incident in Manchester has been classed as terror related but surprisingly is getting much less attention than the London incident.

 

As @mickbrown says the fact that the focus it seems is on the attacker rather victim is pretty sad. I wonder without looking how many people would remember the names, Bebe, Alice and Elsie ? 
 

 

[Ani]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cv2gj77pvwwo
 

And how can this still be going on ? 

[Traf]

1 hour ago, Ani said:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cv2gj77pvwwo
 

And how can this still be going on ? 

So, by the same token as earlier posts, imagine if he was an imam and not a canon.

[bolty58]

3 hours ago, Casino said:

im with @Aniin that an early thought is that it might be an immigrant

its more 'hope its not, it gives the realists another excuse to be realists'

 

[Cheese]

This is a lovely read. 🥰

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/clyg90d4d14t

[Zico]

5 hours ago, Ani said:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cv2gj77pvwwo
 

And how can this still be going on ? 

Peados, blind eyes and cover ups 

Par for the course 

Bet all the local community knew as well 

Especially those who went to the same church 

[Winchester White]

16 minutes ago, Zico said:

Peados, blind eyes and cover ups 

Par for the course 

Bet all the local community knew as well 

Especially those who went to the same church 

Why aren't we burning them down?

[BobyBrno]

It seems the whole ‘establishment’ is covering up for him.

Canon Andrew Hindley - who worked in Blackburn diocese from 1991 to 2021 - was subject to five police investigations, including into allegations of sexual assault.

He has never been charged with any criminal offences and says he has never presented any safeguarding risk to anyone

He could be innocent of course. 
If he’s not, hang him by the knackers. 

 

 

[Winchester White]

7 minutes ago, BobyBrno said:

It seems the whole ‘establishment’ is covering up for him.

Canon Andrew Hindley - who worked in Blackburn diocese from 1991 to 2021 - was subject to five police investigations, including into allegations of sexual assault.

He has never been charged with any criminal offences and says he has never presented any safeguarding risk to anyone

He could be innocent of course. 
If he’s not, hang him by the knackers. 

 

 

Is that an example of the police turning a blind eye?

Surely not.

[BobyBrno]

3 minutes ago, Winchester White said:

Is that an example of the police turning a blind eye?

Surely not.

No idea. 5 different police investigations?

He could be innocent. 
I’ll keep my pitch fork in the shed for the time being.