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1 hour ago, Not in Crawley said:

I'm on 80k a year and it's only just touching the sides. Living on 26k a year on retirement isn't an option.

If you are on 80k a year you will if employed be putting a fair bit in these days with workplace pension.

If self employed you can put upto £40k per year into your pot and that is before you or your company if a sole trader have to corp tax so it is a very good investment if you can afford it. 
 

I think current advice on Pensions is to maintain a good life style at retirement you need a pot of in or around £1m ! Which might sound crazy but it goes pretty quick. That would equate to a annual pension of about £40k ( or it did until recently, no idea what that would be now after this weeks shenanigans. 
£40k might sound like plenty but if you are retiring in 20 years, so you are 47 now think how much £40k will be worth in real terms with inflation .

You do get a tax free lump sum from most schemes but other than that the Pension is taxable at basic rate after you have taken £12.5k allowance. So you have £27.5k taxable let's say 20% so £5.5k in tax leaves you £34.5k so just under £3k per month.

The sooner you look at this the more chance you will have a good pot. But speak to an adviser my experience is that what seems like 'plenty' can disappear quicker than you think . 

 

https://www.fidelity.co.uk/markets-insights/personal-finance/saving-for-retirement/what-does-a-1m-pension-pot-buy/

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11 hours ago, Ani said:

Did you also get a tax free lump sum ? Or is that assuming all invested into an annuity ? 

You’ve lost me already. I genuinely know almost nothing about pensions other than pay as much in as I can when I can afford it

11 hours ago, Ani said:

Do you only have the 1 pension ? So have always worked at same place ? 

No. That’s the big one covering 20 years at one place. Got about 4 others plus some AVCs where I put some of my redundancy money

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20 minutes ago, MancWanderer said:

You’ve lost me already. I genuinely know almost nothing about pensions other than pay as much in as I can when I can afford it

No. That’s the big one covering 20 years at one place. Got about 4 others plus some AVCs where I put some of my redundancy money

When you get your pension you are usually quoted a projected amount per year so that's your £18k I think . Or a lower annual amount but with a tax free lump sum too. 25% of your pension is tax free. I would check that with your adviser. 
 

But if you have a good chunk in your final salary and others too sounds like you are getting decent advice and will be in a good place . 

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27 minutes ago, Ani said:

When you get your pension you are usually quoted a projected amount per year so that's your £18k I think . Or a lower annual amount but with a tax free lump sum too. 25% of your pension is tax free. I would check that with your adviser. 
 

But if you have a good chunk in your final salary and others too sounds like you are getting decent advice and will be in a good place . 

Ah. Got you now. Cheers. That was without taking anything out

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14 hours ago, Winchester White said:

Took mine out of St James Place years ago as their commission was ridiculous. However they generally do perform well so if you have a decent pot (I dont) then they can be very good. My relatively small investment was wasted with them.

 

I'm in the process of transferring my pot away from SJP as their fees are excessive, but unlike previously they have underperformed the rest of the market over the last 3 years - moving to true potential wealth management

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1 hour ago, Gonk said:

I'm in the process of transferring my pot away from SJP as their fees are excessive, but unlike previously they have underperformed the rest of the market over the last 3 years - moving to true potential wealth management

Doubt I would be with SJP if was not for the fact the Adviser is a mate and looks after me. 
The hidden fees on some schemes are crazy. I took £150k tax free from mine, to do this I have to also crystallise the £450k non tax free bit. So the total amount involved was £600k, the fee in theory applied to the whole amount so 1.5%  of £600k, £9k plus VAT ! So for basic moving money from one pot to another !! Needless to say I did not pay this much. 

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3 hours ago, C86 said:

BD retired a couple of months ago, looked afer me for a few years. Top man.

 

7 minutes ago, C86 said:

BD retired a couple of months ago, looked afer me for a few years. Top man.

Good of you to say… again.

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7 hours ago, MickyD said:

 

Good of you to say… again.

werid, I thought I'd posted it, but came back to the page later and it was there to Submit (as though I hadn't), so just did it. 

Anyhow, BD has retired, again again. 😁

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On 12/10/2022 at 15:53, Not in Crawley said:

Might be some new business here for him! Cleared the inbox.

And he gets extra pleasure of telling a soft lefty how shite his is at his personal finances which just goes to show you can't trust 'em.

Winner winner.

 

 

Good evening. Not be able to log on for ages and not as bd, so, with the help of Casino, I’ve set up a new account. Feel free to get in touch, very happy to help, cheers, g

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6 minutes ago, radcliffe white said:

All dependant all peoples lifestyle I guess

With no mortgage or debt come retirement 26k a year seems perfectly doable imo 

No mortgage/debt is a key factor. Inflation can be a killer though will  26k seem like enough in 10 years time ? I forgot when doing my sums that the Pension is also taxable, but equally I forgot the State Pension kicks in as a separate thing. 
A mate of mine is now 58 and told me he has £20k in his. That is total pot. Does not think will ever be able to stop working. 

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On 27/10/2022 at 10:18, Ani said:

No mortgage/debt is a key factor. Inflation can be a killer though will  26k seem like enough in 10 years time ? I forgot when doing my sums that the Pension is also taxable, but equally I forgot the State Pension kicks in as a separate thing. 
A mate of mine is now 58 and told me he has £20k in his. That is total pot. Does not think will ever be able to stop working. 

I'd assume that's just an absolute waste of time, and will only pay you about £80 a month or something - Mrs Sweep has next to fuck all in her personal pension as well, I've told her she needs to up payments to around £1000 per month from the £100 or whatever it is she currently puts in (and she only started with a pension about 4 or 5 years ago, hence having pretty much fuck all in it)

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