Site Supporter fatolive Posted July 27, 2023 Site Supporter Share Posted July 27, 2023 10 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: Wouldn't have thought that would be the be all and end all. Surely he had an alibi etc. Just seems weird. Anyway, hope he gets to enjoy the rest of his life. He was on the today program this morning. explained how it came about, GMP destroying evidence after they realised they made a fuck up, witnesses known criminals and drug addicts who would have ulterior motives etc was interesting and frightening at the same time. it’s probably available on I player , radio 4, this morning about 8:10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nowack Posted July 27, 2023 Share Posted July 27, 2023 Interesting that the DNA they found is a match for someone on the database so I assume they now have the person who did it if they are still around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
royal white Posted July 27, 2023 Share Posted July 27, 2023 16 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: Surely it's the responsibility of the prosecution to prove he was at the crime, rather than him showing he wasn't. The crime happened this century, so perhaps a bit surprising that cctv, road cameras, phone data etc couldn't show where he was, or wasn't. I've seen bits and pieces on TV where experts have explained that witnesses regularly give conficting information about identities, just seems odd that being picked out would condemn him. Surely other stuff backed it up. Bonkers how much crime goes unsolved/wrongful arrests etc with the amount of cameras around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter fatolive Posted July 27, 2023 Site Supporter Share Posted July 27, 2023 26 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: Surely it's the responsibility of the prosecution to prove he was at the crime, rather than him showing he wasn't. The crime happened this century, so perhaps a bit surprising that cctv, road cameras, phone data etc couldn't show where he was, or wasn't. I've seen bits and pieces on TV where experts have explained that witnesses regularly give conficting information about identities, just seems odd that being picked out would condemn him. Surely other stuff backed it up. It is the responsibility of a prosecutor to convince a jury that he was there . he was found guilty by a jury as a culmination of “evidence “ presented before them . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo Posted July 27, 2023 Share Posted July 27, 2023 12 minutes ago, royal white said: Bonkers how much crime goes unsolved/wrongful arrests etc with the amount of cameras around. Can pick 15 footy lads out trying to peacefully enter a pub in Lincoln though cant they?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ani Posted July 27, 2023 Share Posted July 27, 2023 He was on radio 2 later, he is a nightmare for GMP in that he is very articulate and sounds like he has spent a good deal of the time calmly planning. He looks nothing like the photofit. The attacker had a Bolton accent, he does not. He was the wrong height. The attacker had a smooth chest he is a hairy fucker The victim did not mention tattoos on the attacker he has loads. He must have been a suspect for some reason but he has no reason to discuss that. His compo could be about £1m but as mentioned will be charged for rent and board (unlike guilty prisoners) , he is also planning a civil case where the amount he gets could be in addition to the compo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Spider Posted July 27, 2023 Author Site Supporter Share Posted July 27, 2023 7 minutes ago, Ani said: He was on radio 2 later, he is a nightmare for GMP in that he is very articulate and sounds like he has spent a good deal of the time calmly planning. He looks nothing like the photofit. The attacker had a Bolton accent, he does not. He was the wrong height. The attacker had a smooth chest he is a hairy fucker The victim did not mention tattoos on the attacker he has loads. He must have been a suspect for some reason but he has no reason to discuss that. His compo could be about £1m but as mentioned will be charged for rent and board (unlike guilty prisoners) , he is also planning a civil case where the amount he gets could be in addition to the compo. Surely to God that’s a wind up about charging him for staying in prison. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ani Posted July 27, 2023 Share Posted July 27, 2023 Just now, Spider said: Surely to God that’s a wind up about charging him for staying in prison. Nope, it seems like the system works out what you might have earned during the period and then deducts costs you would have incurred, including housing costs. This was on Jeremy Vine, so unless he was mistaken. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted July 27, 2023 Site Supporter Share Posted July 27, 2023 1 hour ago, fatolive said: He was on the today program this morning. explained how it came about, GMP destroying evidence after they realised they made a fuck up, witnesses known criminals and drug addicts who would have ulterior motives etc was interesting and frightening at the same time. it’s probably available on I player , radio 4, this morning about 8:10 Cheers for this. Explains a lot. Those responsible should be seeing a 20 year stretch at least. Can't think of anything more able to destroy a person than being wilfully set up by those charged with protecting us. Fucking abhorrent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted July 27, 2023 Site Supporter Share Posted July 27, 2023 4 minutes ago, Ani said: Nope, it seems like the system works out what you might have earned during the period and then deducts costs you would have incurred, including housing costs. This was on Jeremy Vine, so unless he was mistaken. Again, a shit house situation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
little whitt Posted July 27, 2023 Share Posted July 27, 2023 23 minutes ago, Ani said: He was on radio 2 later, he is a nightmare for GMP in that he is very articulate and sounds like he has spent a good deal of the time calmly planning. He looks nothing like the photofit. The attacker had a Bolton accent, he does not. He was the wrong height. The attacker had a smooth chest he is a hairy fucker The victim did not mention tattoos on the attacker he has loads. He must have been a suspect for some reason but he has no reason to discuss that. His compo could be about £1m but as mentioned will be charged for rent and board (unlike guilty prisoners) , he is also planning a civil case where the amount he gets could be in addition to the compo. it will be a lot More then that £2-£3 million if you get kept in more then you should its £180 a day + loss of Earnings Ect Ect Ect Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomski Posted July 27, 2023 Share Posted July 27, 2023 1 minute ago, little whitt said: it will be a lot More then that £2-£3 million if you get kept in more then you should its £180 a day + loss of Earnings Ect Ect Ect I’d be fuming at £2-3m. I’d want ten times that for 17 years in prison. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted July 27, 2023 Site Supporter Share Posted July 27, 2023 13 minutes ago, tomski said: I’d be fuming at £2-3m. I’d want ten times that for 17 years in prison. Aye. Can't get those years back. No life lived; no career, no earnings, no social or personal life. All while simmering injustice eating away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo Posted July 27, 2023 Share Posted July 27, 2023 59 minutes ago, tomski said: I’d be fuming at £2-3m. I’d want ten times that for 17 years in prison. Contemplating whether Id do 17 years inside for £3m... Reckon Id do 18 months for that much easy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manchester_whites Posted July 27, 2023 Share Posted July 27, 2023 Served an extra 10 years. His barrister Edward Henry KC told the court this was because Mr Malkinson would never "falsely confess to abhorrent crimes which he did not commit". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Spider Posted July 27, 2023 Author Site Supporter Share Posted July 27, 2023 1 hour ago, Ani said: Nope, it seems like the system works out what you might have earned during the period and then deducts costs you would have incurred, including housing costs. This was on Jeremy Vine, so unless he was mistaken. Well. Fuck me sideways. Im honestly speechless about that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted July 27, 2023 Site Supporter Share Posted July 27, 2023 6 minutes ago, Spider said: Well. Fuck me sideways. Im honestly speechless about that Me too. Surely no one would pay voluntarily to be housed in prison, so how can he be charged money for incarceration. Hope he manages to get that sorted. He should get Farage on the job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ani Posted July 27, 2023 Share Posted July 27, 2023 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-66324801.amp Max is £1m with upto 25% deducted. Can not even blame the Tories for this one . 😂😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter only1swanny Posted July 27, 2023 Site Supporter Share Posted July 27, 2023 31 minutes ago, Ani said: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-66324801.amp Max is £1m with upto 25% deducted. Can not even blame the Tories for this one . 😂😂 He'll get more than that for the TV series/movie rights. The guys speech was chilling, and faultless, stated that " its been a nightmare being the only person knowing he's innocent whilst judges, police, prison guards, inmates, media all live in some cooked up fantasy land believing him guilty.".. or words to that effect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomski Posted July 27, 2023 Share Posted July 27, 2023 1 hour ago, gonzo said: Contemplating whether Id do 17 years inside for £3m... Reckon Id do 18 months for that much easy. Fuck that. I’m too good looking to spend more than 5 mins in GERMANY. I’d want 10m for 18 months and not a chance I’d write 17 years off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted July 27, 2023 Site Supporter Share Posted July 27, 2023 3 minutes ago, tomski said: Fuck that. I’m too good looking to spend more than 5 mins in GERMANY. I’d want 10m for 18 months and not a chance I’d write 17 years off. Yep. Some things money can't buy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freds dad Posted July 27, 2023 Share Posted July 27, 2023 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-66323436 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Zico Posted July 27, 2023 Moderators Share Posted July 27, 2023 1 hour ago, gonzo said: Contemplating whether Id do 17 years inside for £3m... Reckon Id do 18 months for that much easy. if someone supplied me with spice and promised to leave me alone, I'd give it a go I reckon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted July 27, 2023 Moderators Share Posted July 27, 2023 Losing my liberty for 18 months? Def take a million, tax free I would go in Monday Its just the dregs Id need to mix with. That, I couldnt do Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Spider Posted July 27, 2023 Author Site Supporter Share Posted July 27, 2023 I’d do a couple of years for a tax free million. I’d do it old school. No internet or telly, just a load of books. Piece of piss Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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