gonzo Posted April 7 Posted April 7 3 hours ago, DirtySanchez said: Where is the money to sign Kenny coming from? He's signed a new contract at Celtic Hull paid £2m for Burstow Depends what division we are in. Hull might have paid £2m but he's worth nothing like that now and they won't want him back. Kenny remains to be seen. There won't be many queuing round the block to throw dosh at Celtic for him. There's dosh available if we go up, that's pretty well touted. Until then it's a balancing act with loans and cheapos. Quote
paulhanley Posted April 7 Posted April 7 Just after the game finished yesterday I remembered the 5-0 pasting we gave Oxford two years ago and how meaningless that felt/feels given what happened at Wembley a few weeks later. If yesterday is not our last game v Stockport in 25/6 the "due a result" ball is still in our court. Sooner or later their luck has to run out against us. I know that calling it luck for last season is stretching it because they were the better side. Not so this year and we have only one point to show for it in the two fixtures. Football has a way of evening things out..... Quote
Big E Posted April 7 Posted April 7 50 minutes ago, gonzo said: Depends what division we are in. Hull might have paid £2m but he's worth nothing like that now and they won't want him back. Kenny remains to be seen. There won't be many queuing round the block to throw dosh at Celtic for him. There's dosh available if we go up, that's pretty well touted. Until then it's a balancing act with loans and cheapos. Kenny is not anywhere near the money Celtic will want for him. Randall levels if we go for him. Quote
DirtySanchez Posted April 7 Posted April 7 2 hours ago, masi 51 said: Nope i have only the figures put out at the time. You seem to think we have no money are you in the know?? Kenny is someone who is on a long contract with no or very little chance of him playing for Celtic. No idea what Celtic value Kenny at, but it will be either very low or they loan him out next season and the two seasons after that....Not the lads fault but he is in limbo and i think returning to us will be about the best offer he gets. You make it sound like no other clubs could be interested Same with Burstow Clubs, bigger and in higher leagues, could offer a fee Guess where they're off and it'll have nothing to do with being on loan with us Quote
gonzo Posted April 7 Posted April 7 1 minute ago, DirtySanchez said: You make it sound like no other clubs could be interested Same with Burstow Clubs, bigger and in higher leagues, could offer a fee Guess where they're off and it'll have nothing to do with being on loan with us Tbf to Masi he's watching them every week like we all are. There's not a cat in hells chance Hull are recouping even half of what they paid for him. Same for Kenny really. I'd say if Burstow leaves Hull it'd be us he comes to for pennies. Kenny could be a struggle but he'd come if we go up. Quote
Lt. Aldo Raine Posted April 7 Posted April 7 If we go up, I doubt there'll be any clubs interested who could blow us out the water Quote
Kane57 Posted April 7 Posted April 7 2 hours ago, gonzo said: Depends what division we are in. Hull might have paid £2m but he's worth nothing like that now and they won't want him back. Kenny remains to be seen. There won't be many queuing round the block to throw dosh at Celtic for him. There's dosh available if we go up, that's pretty well touted. Until then it's a balancing act with loans and cheapos. In October I'd have mortgaged all our houses to buy Burstow but now he has no chance. I'd sign ACD but all other loanees can go. Don't think any of our starters against Stockport could play in the Championship either Quote
masi 51 Posted April 7 Posted April 7 1 hour ago, DirtySanchez said: You make it sound like no other clubs could be interested Same with Burstow Clubs, bigger and in higher leagues, could offer a fee Guess where they're off and it'll have nothing to do with being on loan with us of course other teams will be in the market. If we are interested talks will be going on in the back-ground Though i think the pot of clubs interested will be on the small side. If we kick off next Aug and we are still in lge1 i will expect at least one of the two to be in the line-up. This does also apply to players who are out of contract if we go into the Championship i can see all moving on. If we stay in lge1 then a case of offering a years contract to any of the 3 first team players. SS/Harkin will have two lists of players depending what league we are in. Quote
Popular Post Traf Posted April 7 Popular Post Posted April 7 Josh Sheehan could play in the Championship. Quote
ianofcleveleys Posted April 7 Posted April 7 One of the interesting (at least to me) things about current football is seeing what level those young players serially loaned out by top clubs end up being good enough for. ACD didn't sustain early promise at Blackburn, happier at our level. Donley looked great at Orient, hasn't found it so easy at Oxford. Burstow's a L1 player and Hull had their pants pulled down at that fee. Kenny’s a tricky one, think there'll be a Champ side or two (hopefully us one of them) who'd be minded to take a punt on him, or he could go to one of the smaller European leagues Quote
Zico Posted April 8 Posted April 8 4 hours ago, Traf said: Josh Sheehan could play in the Championship. only if we get promoted Quote
only1swanny Posted April 8 Posted April 8 A lot will depend on if the plan is to make an impact, aim for mid table or to just establish ourselves.. Financially I think the club will want to be reserved, and try and use some of the increased revenue to refill the coffers.. Either way I can see more frees and loans, players brought in must have been with a long term view to up their game, exceptions being the two keepers who were emergency signings. Quote
Tombwfc Posted April 8 Posted April 8 (edited) Burstow's a 22-year-old English striker with three years left on his contract. He's played 24 games worth of minutes for us and has 11 goals and 3 assists. Why would Hull give him away? We've watched him get the yips for three months and play himself totally out of the team. But Hull won't give a fuck about that and I'm sure other teams will convince themselves that he's the player we had at the start of the season. I'm not convinced by either (yet), but I can see why SS might think otherwise if he believes in their potential. At their age if they had a decent run of form in the Championship they'll be worth 4-5x as much. Edited April 8 by Tombwfc Quote
Zico Posted April 8 Posted April 8 Whatever league we're in I'd not be disappointed if Burstow was here next season Clearly got talent Think playing regularly has caught up with him Same goes for Simons and pre injury ACD Quote
Johnnyrotten Posted April 8 Posted April 8 I think if we're in the championship next season and our opponents have 2 of Burstow, Dalby and Kenny up front, I'd expect that to be a team we'd finish above. Watching the types of goals championship teams score says its a very different level and I'm sure SS won't be naive enough to go with a L1 strikeforce. A championship team can probably afford to accommodate one of them in the squad, no more, and as Dalby's got a long contract he's in the driving seat. Not today's problem though. Quote
masi 51 Posted April 8 Posted April 8 3 hours ago, Tombwfc said: Burstow's a 22-year-old English striker with three years left on his contract. He's played 24 games worth of minutes for us and has 11 goals and 3 assists. Why would Hull give him away? We've watched him get the yips for three months and play himself totally out of the team. But Hull won't give a fuck about that and I'm sure other teams will convince themselves that he's the player we had at the start of the season. I'm not convinced by either (yet), but I can see why SS might think otherwise if he believes in their potential. At their age if they had a decent run of form in the Championship they'll be worth 4-5x as much. Hull have a chance in reaching the Premier league in May. Burstow like Kenny may well end up doing the rounds on loan the next few seasons Quote
gonzo Posted April 8 Posted April 8 16 hours ago, Kane57 said: In October I'd have mortgaged all our houses to buy Burstow but now he has no chance. I'd sign ACD but all other loanees can go. Don't think any of our starters against Stockport could play in the Championship either Sheehan Kenny and Dalby for me could all make an impact for me. Sheehan without shadow of doubt. Off the bench Ruben, ACD and Burstow could. Be interested to see what kind of dealings recent none moneybag promotion winners have done to survive, Oxford, Charlton, Derby etc etc Quote
Tombwfc Posted April 8 Posted April 8 Only one of the last 12 promoted sides from L1 have gone straight back down - although Rotherham, Plymouth and at least one of Oxford and Pompey won't have survived a second year. I don't think the gap from top of L1 to being a scrappy Championship side has been that big recently. But maybe we'll find out how shit the third tier has been this season. Quote
DirtySanchez Posted April 8 Posted April 8 46 minutes ago, gonzo said: Sheehan Kenny and Dalby for me could all make an impact for me. Sheehan without shadow of doubt. Off the bench Ruben, ACD and Burstow could. Be interested to see what kind of dealings recent none moneybag promotion winners have done to survive, Oxford, Charlton, Derby etc etc Its reckoned Derby paid £5.8m for Patrick Agyemang Quote
Traf Posted April 8 Posted April 8 22 minutes ago, DirtySanchez said: Its reckoned Derby paid £5.8m for Patrick Agyemang That was the initial fee. There was also another £1.5m worth of clauses/add-ons! Quote
woolli Posted April 8 Posted April 8 5 hours ago, DirtySanchez said: Its reckoned Derby paid £5.8m for Patrick Agyemang Maybe the reason they are 3 points off the play offs. Quote
DirtySanchez Posted April 8 Posted April 8 28 minutes ago, woolli said: Maybe the reason they are 3 points off the play offs. He was injured when he turned up and he's injured again Scored ten goals though But the point I was making is that Derby aren't skint Quote
jmjhb Posted April 8 Posted April 8 7 minutes ago, DirtySanchez said: He was injured when he turned up and he's injured again Scored ten goals though But the point I was making is that Derby aren't skint They did Cashin on Eirin though, got around 9M for him Quote
paulhanley Posted April 8 Posted April 8 (edited) 7 hours ago, Tombwfc said: Only one of the last 12 promoted sides from L1 have gone straight back down - although Rotherham, Plymouth and at least one of Oxford and Pompey won't have survived a second year. I don't think the gap from top of L1 to being a scrappy Championship side has been that big recently. But maybe we'll find out how shit the third tier has been this season. You are right. But the gap to being a grade above the scrappy end of that league is significant. That division is a machine and to be fair it always has been. If you are not ready it will chew you up and spit you out, if not in year 1 it may well come in year 2. We discovered that in our last venture there. Regardless, let us hope the day dawns soon when this challenge is a reality. I certainly feel the fanbase is geared up and primed for the adventure. Edited April 8 by paulhanley Quote
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