Gonk Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 Last season's Premier League averaged 10.78 corners per game (this is why the bookies normally have the bet set at 11!) There were on average 2.77 goals per game (hence the over/under 2.5 goals markets) If 1 in 8 goals came from corners, then we could expect 0.34625 goals per game to come from the 10.78 corners. A conversion rate of 3.2% or 1 goal per 2.89 games (260 mins and 31 corners) If as I suspect 1 goal in 10 comes from corners, then we could expect 0.277 goals per game to come from the 10.78 corners. A conversion rate of 2.57% or 1 goal per 3.61 games (325 mins and 39 corners) Therefore, I'm inclined to agree that the importance of corners are overstated. What are the stats for the Championship, where we currently reside & operate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrp Posted October 24, 2014 Author Share Posted October 24, 2014 It's how you interpret the numbers. The original argument made by Garp (if I'm not mistaken) was that corners are as good as worthless... 13.31% of your goals isn't worthless, surely. this is what you're not getting. I'm not the one interpreting the numbers wrong, you are. I can show you stats for all attempted shots from in your own half and they will look like good numbers and worthwhile. That doesn't mean you keep on shooting from your own half because 5% of all shots form your own half are goals. They are worthless and no, my original point as i keep saying is that taking a short corner when the right time isn't the wrong thing to do because the man in the pub remembers sam allardyce scoring a header from 30 yards 30 years ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jules_darby Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 Forget corners...what about those pesky throw ins? They are soooooo over-rated Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not in Crawley Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 Last season's Premier League averaged 10.78 corners per game (this is why the bookies normally have the bet set at 11!) There were on average 2.77 goals per game (hence the over/under 2.5 goals markets) If 1 in 8 goals came from corners, then we could expect 0.34625 goals per game to come from the 10.78 corners. A conversion rate of 3.2% or 1 goal per 2.89 games (260 mins and 31 corners) If as I suspect 1 goal in 10 comes from corners, then we could expect 0.277 goals per game to come from the 10.78 corners. A conversion rate of 2.57% or 1 goal per 3.61 games (325 mins and 39 corners) Therefore, I'm inclined to agree that the importance of corners are overstated. Have you taken into account in the 'clapping optimum' though? The 'I Feel Good' factor? Dismiss these at your peril my good man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted October 24, 2014 Moderators Share Posted October 24, 2014 what about those pesky throw ins? dont get me started on them wherever we are on the pitch we cant find a man in space Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jules_darby Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 dont get me started on them wherever we are on the pitch we cant find a man in space Maybe nobody can throw it that high Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frank_spencer Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 dont get me started on them wherever we are on the pitch we cant find a man in space Why is it we always seem to take rugby lineout style throw ins? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traf Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 Why is it we always seem to take rugby lineout style throw ins? Why don't we throw it high into the box and get Matt Mills to hoist Chungy into the air to head it on? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frank_spencer Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 Why don't we throw it high into the box and get Matt Mills to hoist Chungy into the air to head it on? Im liking your out of the box thinking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underpants Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 Stop breaking it down and adding stats and more components to it. Corners are a waste of time. Fact! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exiledwhite2 Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 this is what you're not getting. I'm not the one interpreting the numbers wrong, you are. I can show you stats for all attempted shots from in your own half and they will look like good numbers and worthwhile. That doesn't mean you keep on shooting from your own half because 5% of all shots form your own half are goals. They are worthless and no, my original point as i keep saying is that taking a short corner when the right time isn't the wrong thing to do because the man in the pub remembers sam allardyce scoring a header from 30 yards 30 years ago. I'm actually suggesting they can be interpreted either way. I think it's a lot. 13% of all goals scored don't come from shots in your own half. But it does mean we've scored plenty since allardyce played for us. Hundreds, even. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnoopJohnnyJohn Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 (edited) I'm actually suggesting they can be interpreted either way. I think it's a lot. 13% of all goals scored don't come from shots in your own half. But it does mean we've scored plenty since allardyce played for us. Hundreds, even. I'm not sure, but I'm certain that this season alone Mills has had 2 or 3 from corners. Set pieces like corners can turn the game around when you're struggling to create chances and when your attacking players are having a bad game. I'd not write them off as worthless, for that reason alone. You can't look at pure numbers and stats - that's not how this game works. Edited October 24, 2014 by SnoopJohnnyJohn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweep Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 Maybe nobody can throw it that high Why don't we throw it high into the box and get Matt Mills to hoist Chungy into the air to head it on? Can we get Jay Jay back? We managed to turn him into a great throw in person in the end Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted October 24, 2014 Moderators Share Posted October 24, 2014 You can't look at pure numbers and stats - that's not how this game works. i think youre probably wrong if you look at the right stats Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arrested development Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 (edited) I'm not sure, but I'm certain that this season alone Mills has had 2 or 3 from corners. Set pieces like corners can turn the game around when you're struggling to create chances and when your attacking players are having a bad game. I'd not write them off as worthless, for that reason alone. You can't look at pure numbers and stats - that's not how this game works. Mills has scored twice this season from headers in the box (Brum, Chelsea) and once in pre season (Port Vale). The Chelsea one was a free kick but still shows it's worth us putting the ball in the box. Edited October 25, 2014 by Arrested development Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smeghead83 Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 I've often wondered, what's the rule on scooping a bouncing ball under a baggy tshirt without touching it with your hands and running it over the goal line? I think we're missing a trick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bolton va va Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 Mills has scored twice this season from headers in the box (Brum, Chelsea) and once in pre season (Port Vale). The Chelsea one was a free kick but still shows it's worth us putting the ball in the box. Mills also scored at Brighton, a header from a Spearing ( I think) free kick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underpants Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 How many corners from today and the Charlton match? Don't know myself. But I do know we didn't score any goals from any of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gonk Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 We scored one from Brentford's corner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eavesy Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 We scored one from Brentford's corner Clearly proof to get it in the box Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevieb Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 Serious question if Garrp can oblige. How many goals are scored when a keeper comes up for a corner, the defending team clears and then score before the keeper gets back to his net? Can't be that many considering how often keepers come up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Carlos Posted November 3, 2014 Moderators Share Posted November 3, 2014 Half Man Half Biscuit know the score: I linger and gawp When the council dig a big hole And I cheer for a corner I don’t know why, they rarely lead to a goal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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