Garrp Posted October 21, 2014 Posted October 21, 2014 My first moan at the fans, the moaning has already started. If you do better than score 1 in 50 corners you are doing well Basically, corners are worthless. Our mind is tricked into believing they are worth more than they are. Im chuffed as fuck Lennong clearley knows this as every corners someone is sent over with the option to play the corner short. It was chungy intil mavies came on. Can wr please get over this 'he has to put it into the mixer' its clearly a tactic my lennon that is the right thing to do, whatever you may think. Quote
birch-chorley Posted October 22, 2014 Posted October 22, 2014 What is our conversation rate from corners this season so far? I think we have had around 50 all together before tonight and seemed to have scored a few goals from corners Just a question, I don't know the answer Quote
anewman Posted October 22, 2014 Posted October 22, 2014 I'm sure we scored the winner from a corner at Birmingham you prat Quote
anewman Posted October 22, 2014 Posted October 22, 2014 And why we are on the matter, stop getting 11 in the box to defend a fuckin corner, leave two out Quote
jules_darby Posted October 22, 2014 Posted October 22, 2014 And why we are on the matter, stop getting 11 in the box to defend a fuckin corner, leave two outLennon left one up at Brum. Dunno about last night Quote
Mounts Kipper Posted October 22, 2014 Posted October 22, 2014 And why we are on the matter, stop getting 11 in the box to defend a fuckin corner, leave two out Get down to the Macron Saturday then you can see it for yourself. Quote
BOWTUN BAKED Posted October 22, 2014 Posted October 22, 2014 Statistically, are you more likely to score from inside the box? Or from fannying about in the corner? Exactly! "GET IT IN THE MIXER!" Quote
tylswhite Posted October 22, 2014 Posted October 22, 2014 (edited) I tell you what I would be interested in. The ratio of goals scored from corners being crossed into the box and the ones played short and passed around first. I reckon they wouldn't be a million miles apart. Either way we need to do both and keep the opposition guessing imo. Edited October 22, 2014 by tylswhite Quote
Guest Posted October 22, 2014 Posted October 22, 2014 (edited) I don't like short corners. What is the point of them? Unless you are good enough to work the ball from the corner to a central shooting position on the edge of the box or inside it what do you gain? Take it short and then you end up crossing it anyway, usually from a worse angle and under pressure. You put your men in the box, centre backs get up, then fanny around with it before either losing possession or just putting it in the box anyway. And we would score plenty more from corners and set pieces with the right delivery and movement. As Saturday showed. It is an area we must improve on because we look like we won't score many from open play. Edited October 22, 2014 by bwfcfan5 Quote
Zico Posted October 22, 2014 Posted October 22, 2014 My first moan at the fans, the moaning has already started. If you do better than score 1 in 50 corners you are doing well Basically, corners are worthless. Our mind is tricked into believing they are worth more than they are. Im chuffed as fuck Lennong clearley knows this as every corners someone is sent over with the option to play the corner short. It was chungy intil mavies came on. Can wr please get over this 'he has to put it into the mixer' its clearly a tactic my lennon that is the right thing to do, whatever you may think. under Rioch, we scored from every other corner - Browny flicked it on to the far post where Walker / McGinlay would nod it in - it's no coincidence we did so well in that time when goals from corners were so frequent Quote
Rembrandt Posted October 22, 2014 Posted October 22, 2014 Reading between the lines, Lennon doesn't seem happy about all the possession and dead-ball situations we had last night, and how little came from them. Presumably including the number of corners. Like we know already, there's a lot in our play and players that needs substantial work. It won't happen overnight though. Quote
DazBob Posted October 22, 2014 Posted October 22, 2014 Think we scored from every single corner when Jaidi played for us. Mind you, oddly enough, I think we conceded from every corner too. Quote
Smiley Posted October 22, 2014 Posted October 22, 2014 under Rioch, we scored from every other corner - Browny flicked it on to the far post where Walker / McGinlay would nod it in - it's no coincidence we did so well in that time when goals from corners were so frequent It was a great tactic that one. Quote
HR Posted October 22, 2014 Posted October 22, 2014 One thing that baffles me is when goalies charge up the field late on when a goal is needed desperately to get on the end of corners. Why doesn't the goalie take the fucking corner, not like they have they suddenly turned into Van Basten. Quote
anewman Posted October 22, 2014 Posted October 22, 2014 Matt mills is more than capable of attacking the ball from corners. Now let's talk at knight, for the biggest bloke on the pitch he was fuckin shit in the air Quote
Traf Posted October 22, 2014 Posted October 22, 2014 . Now let's talk at knight, for the biggest bloke on the pitch he was fuckin shit in the air Irrelevant. Quote
Piemon Posted October 22, 2014 Posted October 22, 2014 stubbs also scored a few flick ons mustnt have watched vids in them days because we scored every week with the same tactic. Quote
ph31 Posted October 22, 2014 Posted October 22, 2014 Our goal resulted from a corner last night and their keeper was all over the place for the few that were well delivered, with the best chances from open play falling to beckford a set piece looked our most likely chance of a goal. Not sure why Chungy took over corners from Spearing after about 70 mins, they were all poor. I think we tried 2 short corners and both failed miserably. Quote
Adlington Trotter Posted October 22, 2014 Posted October 22, 2014 I think if a corner is passed out level with the 18 yard line, if the player can whip in an in swinging cross from there it would be more difficult to defend than a corner. If everyone misses it it could also force a save from the keeper. Quote
jules_darby Posted October 22, 2014 Posted October 22, 2014 I think if a corner is passed out level with the 18 yard line, if the player can whip in an in swinging cross from there it would be more difficult to defend than a corner. If everyone misses it it could also force a save from the keeper. You's end up with them pushing your men offside; and/or out of the box Quote
jayjayoghani Posted October 22, 2014 Posted October 22, 2014 We need Holden back for his corners Quote
Underpants Posted October 22, 2014 Posted October 22, 2014 Our goal resulted from a corner last night and their keeper was all over the place for the few that were well delivered, with the best chances from open play falling to beckford a set piece looked our most likely chance of a goal. Not sure why Chungy took over corners from Spearing after about 70 mins, they were all poor. I think we tried 2 short corners and both failed miserably. The goal came from second or third phase play. The corner is somewhat irrelevant. At the end of the day is was a cross that failed. The odds are stacked in the defending teams side when a cross comes in from that quadrant. The problem with this is that you can't just keep taking short corners. Watched a program a bit back with the bloke who wrote the book The Numbers Game: Why Everything you know about Football Is Wrong. On average a team will score, directly for the cross of a corner, 4 times a year. Corners get the fans fist punching and screaming like girls, but it will almost result in nowt. Corners are just like Hail Mary's in American Football. Quote
Garrp Posted October 22, 2014 Author Posted October 22, 2014 Watched a program a bit back with the bloke who wrote the book The Numbers Game: Why Everything you know about Football Is Wrong. On average a team will score, directly for the cross of a corner, 4 times a year. Corners get the fans fist punching and screaming like girls, but it will almost result in nowt. Corners are just like Hail Mary's in American Football. best.football.book.ever.written Quote
jules_darby Posted October 22, 2014 Posted October 22, 2014 The goal came from second or third phase play. The corner is somewhat irrelevant. At the end of the day is was a cross that failed. The odds are stacked in the defending teams side when a cross comes in from that quadrant. The problem with this is that you can't just keep taking short corners. Watched a program a bit back with the bloke who wrote the book The Numbers Game: Why Everything you know about Football Is Wrong. On average a team will score, directly for the cross of a corner, 4 times a year. Corners get the fans fist punching and screaming like girls, but it will almost result in nowt. Corners are just like Hail Mary's in American Football. Are those stats directly from a corner? Like you said the goal was from a 2nd / 3rd phase; I'd like to know how much more likely goals are from that than from 2nd / 3rd phase from a goal kick Corners are worth getting excited about in my opinion. And if you only score 1 in 50 Imagine how much of a relative weapon they would be if you got that down to 1 in 15..... I bet the odds from scoring ado text free kick aren't far off the same, but if you have a Beckham or Ronaldo for example the odds must tumble Hence it being so valuable Quote
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